[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-02-11
* Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Stuart * Completed Action Items: + Jay/Kendy: GSoC for application (color) themes. (added it, Kendy add the rest) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Application_Themes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J_aogLuQThqhvT0R2em27Vpew-SLAQgpH5TbNTgXPZM/edit?usp=sharing + Kendy: More work around templates repository / online templates / integration into the start screen / ... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85420 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=108377 + Heiko/Kendy: Rework of the Tools -> Customization... dialog http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/ + will create a bug report for that (Heiko) -> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 + Kendy/Jay: Document preview in open dialog Adolfo suggest this be a GSoC https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87748 + need to double-check the technical feasibility - if that's the system's responsibility or LO's + maybe we should re-consider a bit how we are opening files + very hard to setup connection to google docs / onedrive etc. "Have popular CMIS pre-configured in LO custom dialog" - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86699 "Easy access to online document storage services like Google Drive" - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86703 * Pending Action Items: + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001 + Stuart: Change the default to single page + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view" [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit] AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted. + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to documentat...@global.libreoffice.org with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) * Easy Hacks to be filed: + Kendy: The Window's closing button should indeed close the window, not dock the sidebar https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87217 + Kendy: Do / find someone / easy-hack-ize automatic opening of the Track changes toolbar when there are tracked changes + Kendy: Check how hard it is to make sidebar honor the icon size setting + Kendy: Easy Hack-ize fixing of uno commands that need to be duplicated in Draw and Impress + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84258#c2 + Kendy: Create Easy Hack for the Hi-contrast Sifr + Kendy: Adding 1.15 to the drop down list - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85949 + Kendy: Research what is needed to do to only disable (not hide) the formula bar in Calc when Chart component is activated + Kendy: Tell Jay how to fiddle with the default position of toolbars (so that he can tweak the Chart's toolbars) + Kendy: Only activate image toolbar when an image is selected - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87362 + Adolfo: Create easy hacks for the options Design decided to drop since 2012: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Options/Global + Kendy: Should border around an image have no padding by default https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87360 * GSoC tasks to be filed: + Jay: add a Styles usability improvements section + list the various things to implement to GSoC-next ideas + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/GenialIdeas [styles previews in the sidebar etc.] + Ahmed, Jay: Brainstorm about some nice / more styles for Calc https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/493 [longer term - maybe better to add to the GSoC Styles task?] + Jay: Impress also needs more default object styles (only 2 are available) + Kendy: On-demand / programmatic colorization of the Sifr icons + Kendy: Change tracking UI in the document * UI changes
[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-02-04
* Present: Heiko, Jay, Steve, Stuart * Completed Action Items: + Jay/Kendy: GSoC for application (color) themes. (added it, Kendy add the rest) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Application_Themes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J_aogLuQThqhvT0R2em27Vpew-SLAQgpH5TbNTgXPZM/edit?usp=sharing + Kendy: More work around templates repository / online templates / integration into the start screen / ... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85420 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=108377 + Heiko/Kendy: Rework of the Tools -> Customization... dialog http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/ + will create a bug report for that (Heiko) -> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88896 + Kendy/Jay: Document preview in open dialog Adolfo suggest this be a GSoC https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87748 + need to double-check the technical feasibility - if that's the system's responsibility or LO's + maybe we should re-consider a bit how we are opening files + very hard to setup connection to google docs / onedrive etc. "Have popular CMIS pre-configured in LO custom dialog" - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86699 "Easy access to online document storage services like Google Drive" - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86703 * Pending Action Items: + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001 + Stuart: Change the default to single page + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view" [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit] AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted. + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to documentat...@global.libreoffice.org with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) * Easy Hacks to be filed: + Kendy: The Window's closing button should indeed close the window, not dock the sidebar https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87217 + Kendy: Do / find someone / easy-hack-ize automatic opening of the Track changes toolbar when there are tracked changes + Kendy: Check how hard it is to make sidebar honor the icon size setting + Kendy: Easy Hack-ize fixing of uno commands that need to be duplicated in Draw and Impress + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84258#c2 + Kendy: Create Easy Hack for the Hi-contrast Sifr + Kendy: Adding 1.15 to the drop down list - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85949 + Kendy: Research what is needed to do to only disable (not hide) the formula bar in Calc when Chart component is activated + Kendy: Tell Jay how to fiddle with the default position of toolbars (so that he can tweak the Chart's toolbars) + Kendy: Only activate image toolbar when an image is selected - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87362 + Adolfo: Create easy hacks for the options Design decided to drop since 2012: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Options/Global + Kendy: Should border around an image have no padding by default https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87360 * GSoC tasks to be filed: + Jay: add a Styles usability improvements section + list the various things to implement to GSoC-next ideas + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/GenialIdeas [styles previews in the sidebar etc.] + Ahmed, Jay: Brainstorm about some nice / more styles for Calc https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/493 [longer term - maybe better to add to the GSoC Styles task?] + Jay: Impress also needs more default object styles (only 2 are available) * Residual issues with BZ migration? Heiko not receiving digest subscription of ux-advise issues, while those taking all UX-advise seei
Re: [libreoffice-design] Leaving a link here…
Am 11.03.2015 15:40:16, schrieb Adolfo Jayme Barrientos: > (You should know GDocs as you’re using it know makes me feel excluded. > Hopefully somebody will care) How would you feel included? Of course your input is very appreciated. About the mockups: It makes sense to start UI discussions from scratch. That means to figure out what is the scope and which requirements are needed for the users. If you or someone else start with a more or less final solution it not only hinders creativity (sorry for being a psychologist ;-) ) but we would discuss the proposal and miss features. Some examples for the recent topic (all in terms of yes/no decisions based on good reasoning): * Load and save from ftp, ssh, webdav, shared folders etc.* Integration of CMS into file dialog * Live synchonization (at least we need to check on save if the original document was changed meanwhile) Just some brainstorming from my naiv view. PS: (Phone call let Sophie slip in) We discussed whether or not to use Google and decided pro since it is the most comfortable option. I'm fine with Etherpad too, for instance. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Leaving a link here…
Since the weekly meeting process seems to be different now (no pad, no meeting minutes, no open documents where one can leave notes for the rest) and I’m not able to join calls because of other obligations... I just wanted to leave here some screenshots for the online services integration on the newly released beta of Office 2015 for Mac, which you may or may not use for “prior art” analyses and design proposals. http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/word_mac_save_locations.png http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/word_mac_saving_in_cloud.png (You should know GDocs as you’re using it know makes me feel excluded. Hopefully somebody will care) Adolfo -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Some Feedback on the Metrics Tender
Hi there, (yes I still exist) Just a quick opinion-free comment on what Mozilla does with Firefox, re: On 03/10/2015 02:07 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: The success of this overall project is closely related to the percentage of users that participate. I do not question the opt-in mechanism - this follows our free software philosophy (even though Firefox e.g. does this differently IIRC). For the Telemetry feature Mozilla uses: + Opt-out for users of Nightly, Developer Edition (née Aurora) and Beta, with a first-start information bar being displayed + Opt-in for users of Firefox Release, with a first-start information bar being displayed Mozilla has two other similar phone-home functionalities, both of which seem to be always opt-out: Health Report (for performance data) and Crash Reporter (allows you to choose not to send a crash report each time anyway). There is also the add-on block list (plays a large in role in determining the number of Firefox users), which is hard to opt out of at all and safe browsing which downloads data (and sends cookies) to Google which too is opt-out. Stefan. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Design Session at 2015-13-06 at 1pm UTC about CMIS integration
Hi All, This friday we'll be having a design session on improving the visibility of Libreoffice's ability to connect to online document storage services like Google Drive. Details of this discussion can be found in this google docs document - http://bit.ly/1b1wvb3 We had a fun design session last friday for the redesign of the Entries tab of the Index/Table of Contents dialog, and details of that discussion and a new mockup can be found in this google docs document - http://bit.ly/1b1wvb3 Look forward to seeing you. Regards, Jay -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Session at 1pm UTC about TOC dialog
Hi Jay, Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2015, 12:36:02 schrieb Jay Philips: > Hi Bjorn, > > Hope you are feeling better now I do indeed! Thanks! > and look forward to seeing you at this > week's session. Unfortunately I do have an appointment this Friday. Do you plan these sessions every Friday at the same time? Then I will add this to my calendar, so I can hopefully make it for the next sessions. Have fun, Björn > Jay > > On 03/06/2015 02:50 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I am sorry, but I have to miss out - I am ill. > > > > Cheers, > > Björn > > > > Am Freitag, 6. März 2015, 13:37:23 schrieb Jay Philips: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> From the doodle, it seems that 1pm UTC is the only time that we all are > >> available. > >> > >> We will be discussing the redesign of the Table of Contents dialog's > >> Entries tab ( Insert > Indexes and Tables > Indexes and Tables ). I've > >> filed a but about it already ( > >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89608 ) and have > >> suggested it be changed from ( http://i.imgur.com/N7sIVkr.png ) to > >> something like ( > >> https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113635 > >> ). > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jay -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Session at 1pm UTC about TOC dialog
Hi Bjorn, Hope you are feeling better now and look forward to seeing you at this week's session. Jay On 03/06/2015 02:50 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: > Hi all, > > I am sorry, but I have to miss out - I am ill. > > Cheers, > Björn > > Am Freitag, 6. März 2015, 13:37:23 schrieb Jay Philips: >> Hi All, >> >> From the doodle, it seems that 1pm UTC is the only time that we all are >> available. >> >> We will be discussing the redesign of the Table of Contents dialog's >> Entries tab ( Insert > Indexes and Tables > Indexes and Tables ). I've >> filed a but about it already ( >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89608 ) and have >> suggested it be changed from ( http://i.imgur.com/N7sIVkr.png ) to >> something like ( >> https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113635 ). >> >> Regards, >> Jay > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
