Hi Samuel,

thanx for your reply.
I put the screenshots in the following folder:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5CZFCSGix1ebmx2VlRSZWZkLXM&usp=sharing

Please also note the links to the individual screenshots below.

best wishes,
roland

Am 26.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt <samuel.mehrbr...@cib.de>:

> Hi Roland,
> 
> many thanks for your suggestions, they are good points.
> 
> Unfortunately this mailing list has stripped off your attachments - could you 
> please upload them somewhere else and post links to them?
> 
> Thanks
> Samuel
> ________________________________________
> Von: Roland Spitzlinger <r.spitzlin...@gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 23:37
> An: design@global.libreoffice.org
> Betreff: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers
> 
> hello everyone,
> 
> first of all thanx for your great effort!
> I have been using libre office for many years and it has improved a lot since 
> then.
> 
> I have been working on user interfaces in the past and I just thought you 
> might appreciate a few thoughts that could potentially help improve the libre 
> office UI. In fact, I have done a little comparison of libre office calc and 
> numbers (osx). Based on that, here are a few suggestions:
> 
> divide options into managable groups. do not show all options at the same 
> time.
> instead organize them in sections
> work with tabs
> avoid strong color contrasts. the human eye isn’t made for it.
> avoid black on white background, use grey shades instead (dark grey on light 
> grey is highly recommended)
> avoid bold text in strong colors such as black and red
> avoid colors in general, unless used to highlight something. this helps the 
> user to focus on the important matters.
> only use colors to highlight the current state of a text/cell (e.g. the 
> checkbox „Tausendertrennzeichen“ should be in color if it is active for the 
> marked cell, otherwise it should be grey)
> do use colors for color options, obviously.
> combine related buttons in groups (see e.g. the button group „Ausrichtung“) 
> this way the UI is less clustered and easier to comprehend.
> hide unnecessary design elements. as we all know, good design is as little 
> design as possible.
> only show indicators when they are actually needed (see the two screenshots 
> with color option below)
> avoid additional external formating menus with ever more options. instead 
> work with tabs and control buttons within the sidebar framework (see last 
> screenshot below)
> avoid scrollbars
> if they seem necessary, then this is a sign that there is already too much 
> information
> if a scrollbar is needed, hide it until the user actually starts scrolling
> 
> hope this is of any help. If you have any questions go ahaid.
> 
> In any case, thanx again for your effort!
> 
> best wishes,
> roland
> 
> 
> comparison of formating panels:
> numbers vs. libre office
> 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eMkNnNV9qMUtEcW8
> 
> 
> 
> While libre office shows all options in one place, numbers breakes them down 
> into logical and more comprenhensible sections.
> 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eczNSSk8yUFRfeUk
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eR0Fyck9IZTFPS1U
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eWG9OUUpnRkNWbnM
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eWTB2OGtMUi1ZQ28

> 
> 
>  color option:
> mouse over color option:
> 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1ebnU4M05CZDI5c1E

additional options:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eUnRyM3R5Z0ZYZ0E
> 
> 
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