Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Charles-H . Schulz
Hello Andreas, Cor,

Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:

> Hi,
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
>> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
>>> Hi Cor,
>>
>>> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
>>> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>>>
>>> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>>>
>>> -- design of the new site
>>> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
>>> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
>> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
>> It's already budgetted for?
>
> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.

For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
the same design (small variations are of course possible).

When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
migration)?

Best,

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi,

Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
>> Hi Cor,
>
>> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
>> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>>
>> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>>
>> -- design of the new site
>> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
>> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
> It's already budgetted for?

we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
status. The tester need only to work with the forms.

It's always possible to change the view of the content objects (center,
project, release, linked release). We could discuss this display/view in
parallel.
>>> Few remarks:
> Thanks for the explanation!
>
>> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.
> I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods
>
The elements of your draft are all there (the ordering is a bit
different, but it's possible to rearrange them easily). The views are
created with TAL (Template Attribution Language), which is a bit
different from plain HTML.
(you could find the page templates in the github repository, e.g for the
center.:
https://github.com/tdf/tdf.extensionuploadcenter/blob/master/tdf/extensionuploadcenter/eupcenter_templates/view.pt

I got some hints for the current arrangement of the elements from the
de-Community-Meeting last year. But I'm open for other proposals.

Regards,
Andreas

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
> Hi Cor,


> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
> 
> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
> 
> -- design of the new site
> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5

Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
It's already budgetted for?

>> Few remarks:

Thanks for the explanation!

> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.

I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods

Ciao,
Cor

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Cor,

Am 10.01.2016 um 17:43 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16:
>
>> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided
>> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time
>> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my  spare time and finished a
>> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This
>> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be
>> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I
>> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This
>> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly
>> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some
>> weeks of work during my spare time).
> Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that
> you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board
> to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by
> someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully
> understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The
> site is important enough for such a move, IMO.

the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.

But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:

-- design of the new site
-- content transfer from the current site to the new one
-- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5

>
>> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0:
>> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions
> Thanks for that, of course :)
> Few remarks:
> 1) I was thinking about advantage when the split
> Home | Extensions | Templates
> is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast
> majority comes to the site.
> A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people.
I have not created a default view (page) for the home of the new site.
If we want to go with a website with translated content, I fear that the
home had to stay (with a default page [translated] with some information
for users).

>
> 2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the
> way to search for an extension.
This Plone live search will be disabled in the productive state. I have
not done this in the test site yet.

Every part of the site (extensions and templates) will have a search
form for products: extensions or templates. That is already implemented.
You will see the form once you click on one of the entries in by category.
>
> 3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages.
> Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in
> relation to that design?
Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.

Regards,
Andreas

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16:

> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided
> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time
> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my  spare time and finished a
> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This
> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be
> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I
> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This
> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly
> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some
> weeks of work during my spare time).

Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that
you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board
to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by
someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully
understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The
site is important enough for such a move, IMO.

> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0:
> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions

Thanks for that, of course :)
Few remarks:
1) I was thinking about advantage when the split
Home | Extensions | Templates
is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast
majority comes to the site.
A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people.

2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the
way to search for an extension..

3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages.
Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in
relation to that design?

Thanks a lot,
Cor


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