Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey
On 24/03/2016 09:29, Heiko Tietze wrote: >> Can you redo the charts in colour, rather than B&W. > Sure. But why? Improve3s readability/ease of understanding. >And what color? Each one a different colour. >> comprehensive, and more complete set of citations. > I'm afraid of making the post lengthy, more than it is. It also might be hard > to find good citations. Most replies are just one-worders. Use numbered end notes. That way people who glaze over notes know that they can stop reading, without losing any content, whilst those who want more information, can have pointers to it. By more comprehensive, I mean things like stating that the House Plan is part of a 3D model, created using LibO. If possible, point to a tutorial that describes how to use Draw to create house plans. "mathematical Constructions" was something I didn't expect to see. I'm assuming this refers to creating a math formula, that is beyond the current capability/functionality of the Math component of LibO. Clarification that that is what is meant would be useful. I don't remember the other points that I would have expected a citation for, if only because they were things that I didn't expect Draw to be able to accomplish what was described. > This floor plan is one of the most complex vector drawing I found. I'd say it is complicated, and a very interesting use-case. Assuming he hasn't yet written one in Spanish, can he be convinced to write a tutorial on how others can use Draw to create house plans. > Thanks for the reminder. Documentation is requested in the outlook section. Missed that one. :( Do you have a list of all of the different use cases that were provided in the survey? If so, can you add them at to the missing documentation page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Documentation_missing If you don't, then, assuming that https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByWdNpQKVjM8bF91TGJCUXlFUk0/view?pref=2&pli=1 is still live, I can grab the data, and create the use cases to add to that list. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposal: Usability testing LibreOffice in a university course
Hello Christoph, sure that would be nice. As a starting point to figure out what to do in detail, you and your students may check the previous studies at User Prompt (Andreas refers to only one publication) and later on at the LibO design blog. Two more surveys are conducted and the publication is in preparation. http://user-prompt.com/portfolio/libreoffice/ https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/ All of these studies are open source and CC licenced. As psychologist with statistical background I usually analyze with R. The scripts are available. We have a weekly design/UX meeting where everybody is welcome. Guess not tomorrow, however ;-). Cheers, Heiko On Donnerstag, 24. März 2016 12:23:27 CET Christoph Wimmer wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am a member of DECO research group at Vienna University of Technology > (http://deco.inso.tuwien.ac.at) and we are teaching a course on usability > engineering with around 60 students this summer term. For a lab assignment, > the students will both plan and conduct usability tests for existing > applications. We would like to let our students evaluate the current > version of LibreOffice and were wondering if you would be interested in the > results or maybe even closer collaboration. We believe this could be > beneficial to everyone involved: The LibreOffice UX team could benefit from > the results of the usability tests and our students would know that their > work serves a real purpose by having a positive impact on a project with > millions of users. > > Please let us know how you feel about this and how we could coordinate. For > example, it would be great if you could let us know if there are any > specific parts of LibreOffice that you think would benefit the most from > usability testing. > > Thank you and best regards, > Christoph Wimmer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey
Hi Mike, I suspect Google to always change my setting. Pretty sure that I enabled at least commenting. Anyway, now it should be okay. And I'm glad to have you onboard since the documentation part is mostly a communication and marketing thing. All the best, Heiko On Donnerstag, 24. März 2016 13:30:58 CET Mike Saunders wrote: > Hi Heiko, > > On 23.03.2016 17:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > > As usual the English is a shame and needs proof-reading from natives. > > Not a shame; the English is mostly great! But I'm a native speaker and > can do a few cleanups if you like -- just grant access to my Google > account (oka...@gmail.com) and I'll do it. > > Cheers, > Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey
Hi Heiko, On 23.03.2016 17:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: As usual the English is a shame and needs proof-reading from natives. Not a shame; the English is mostly great! But I'm a native speaker and can do a few cleanups if you like -- just grant access to my Google account (oka...@gmail.com) and I'll do it. Cheers, Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposal: Usability testing LibreOffice in a university course
Hi Christoph, this would be really great. I'm not that involved in the usability stuff but I do/did the breeze icon theme and I live in Vienna too. In the past I don't get that much feedback about the icon semantic there was a Usability Test from 2014 ( http://user-prompt.com/de/intermediate-results-of-the-icon-tests-breeze/) about the semantic and there the feedback was that some icons need some redesign. As breeze is used on Mac and Linux I would be very happy to get some feedback. cheers Andreas 2016-03-24 12:23 GMT+01:00 Christoph Wimmer < christoph.wim...@inso.tuwien.ac.at>: > Hello everyone, > > I am a member of DECO research group at Vienna University of Technology ( > http://deco.inso.tuwien.ac.at) and we are teaching a course on usability > engineering with around 60 students this summer term. For a lab assignment, > the students will both plan and conduct usability tests for existing > applications. We would like to let our students evaluate the current > version of LibreOffice and were wondering if you would be interested in the > results or maybe even closer collaboration. > We believe this could be beneficial to everyone involved: The LibreOffice > UX team could benefit from the results of the usability tests and our > students would know that their work serves a real purpose by having a > positive impact on a project with millions of users. > > Please let us know how you feel about this and how we could coordinate. > For example, it would be great if you could let us know if there are any > specific parts of LibreOffice that you think would benefit the most from > usability testing. > > Thank you and best regards, > Christoph Wimmer > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Proposal: Usability testing LibreOffice in a university course
Hello everyone, I am a member of DECO research group at Vienna University of Technology (http://deco.inso.tuwien.ac.at) and we are teaching a course on usability engineering with around 60 students this summer term. For a lab assignment, the students will both plan and conduct usability tests for existing applications. We would like to let our students evaluate the current version of LibreOffice and were wondering if you would be interested in the results or maybe even closer collaboration. We believe this could be beneficial to everyone involved: The LibreOffice UX team could benefit from the results of the usability tests and our students would know that their work serves a real purpose by having a positive impact on a project with millions of users. Please let us know how you feel about this and how we could coordinate. For example, it would be great if you could let us know if there are any specific parts of LibreOffice that you think would benefit the most from usability testing. Thank you and best regards, Christoph Wimmer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Results from the Draw Survey
On Mittwoch, 23. März 2016 21:09:54 CET toki wrote: > On 23/03/2016 16:51, Heiko Tietze wrote: > > read critical to make sure that it's not too concise, not boring, and > > that you can follow the argumentation. > > Can you redo the charts in colour, rather than B&W. Sure. But why? And what color? > > The result is a personal conclusion that should be verified. > > I didn't read the individual survey responses, but based upon what you > wrote there, and the comments that came up in discussing the survey, I > think the only change would be adding that documentation has not kept up > with changes to draw. Args, I wanted to add this. Thanks for the reminder. Documentation is requested in the outlook section. > > Also I suggest to left out the citations in the final publication. > > If anything, the final publication needs to include a more > comprehensive, and more complete set of citations. I'm afraid of making the post lengthy, more than it is. It also might be hard to find good citations. Most replies are just one-worders. > Whist it was obvious to me that the house plan from 1991 was not > originally created with LibO, I couldn't tell from either your report, > or from reading the blog it came from, if the new house plan was created > with LibO, or if the user thought that they should be able to recreate > the house plan using LibO. This floor plan is one of the most complex vector drawing I found. According to Octavio's translation it is done in LibO. But even when not it would be possible. The idea is to illustrate our options - and that's one of the interesting use-cases. Many thanks for carefully reading, Heiko -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
