Re: [libreoffice-design] New LibreOffice user experience designer

2022-11-18 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
I have some suggestions on more self-educative work, if I may, rather 
than helping with something concrete:


1. Obligatory pitch due to being an RTL language guy: Our languages, as 
well as CJK languages, have many particular issues with LO, which are 
usually due to original software developers or UI designers not having 
taken these languages (or quirks thereof) into consideration when 
working on some feature or piece of UI. I recommend that you check out a 
few presentations at LO conferences about this. Specifically, the two 
from this year's LibOCon:


https://events.documentfoundation.org/media/libreoffice-conference-2022/submissions/YNNRCV/resources/2022-09_Rozenberg_Eyal_-_State__Z8YSSPz.pdf

https://events.documentfoundation.org/media/libreoffice-conference-2022/submissions/83UJJG/resources/State_of_CJK_issues_of_LibreOff_kXy1cOh.pdf

2. Look for some UI/UX bugs which have seen spirited/intense debates, 
where the debates were not merely splitting hairs but about conflicting 
expectations and considerations. There bug pages are tedious to read 
through but also informative in learning how people often don't simply 
disagree, but have different visions, motivating principles or 
considerations underlying their positions on UI/UX choices; and how as a 
project officer you can help by making the different considerations more 
explicit and clear to everyone when discussions are had.


Perhaps the most famous, though flame-full, example would be:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

3. Trivial, but still worth suggesting: Take some time to try out LO 
modules which you use less frequently in your daily life, and features 
within those modules you use less frequently. In LO, Writer gets most of 
the attention, then Impress and Calc, and all the rest sometimes feel 
like an afterthought w.r.t. QA work. Even true for me personally, I'm 
afraid.


Wishing you all the best with your new role,
Eyal


On 17/11/2022 20:33, Lizzie Kim wrote:

Hi Heiko,

My name is Liz, I am the new UX designer with LibreOffice! Is there
anything I can immediately help with? I am planning to attend the UX design
meeting next week, but until then I can help with anything else as well. I
look forward to working with you!

Best,
Liz Kim



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Re: [libreoffice-design] New LibreOffice user experience designer

2022-11-18 Thread Heiko Tietze

Hi Liz,

you are very much welcome. And we do have plenty of work. Either you pick what 
you like most, or actually dislike most, and submit a mockup or propose a solution.


We also have a wiki [1] where all relevant information are collected (if not, 
this could be a starting point for you too).


Ultimately the work happens on Bugzilla [2] on tickets with the flag 
needsUXEval, which is input from users forwarded by the QA team to us. It often 
goes quite into detail and a lot of deep knowledge about the application is 
needed. Nevertheless we want to reach novices as well and should make the 
workflow simple.


Many people are connected via Telegram/Matrix/IRC, pick one if you like, all are 
bridged.


Cheers,
Heiko

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design
[2] 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsUXEval=---


On 17.11.22 19:33, Lizzie Kim wrote:

Hi Heiko,

My name is Liz, I am the new UX designer with LibreOffice! Is there
anything I can immediately help with? I am planning to attend the UX design
meeting next week, but until then I can help with anything else as well. I
look forward to working with you!

Best,
Liz Kim



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