[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-NOV-14 (THU)
Hi, Heiko. I added some opinions into pad. Roman >Вторник, 12 ноября 2019, 13:58 +03:00 от Heiko Tietze >: > >Hello all, > >the next design/UX meeting is on THURSDAY NOV/14, >14:00 Berlin/CET/GMT+1 resp. 1pm UTC. > >Here is the agenda: > >Topics > > * TABLE-PROPERTIES: Add "Row" tab > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128351 > + add tab for row height in properties dialog as we have for col width >(Dieter, Cor) > => go for it, but mockup needed > > * Calc sheet tabs: Option to make compact (use smaller font and less padding >like in <=6.2) > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127892 > + introduce an option to reduce margins on sheet tabs > + new design was choosen carefully, difference is just a few pixels => no >options needed (Pedro) > + weird screenshot submitted by OP > => looks like another issue > > * Add more tools to the new Table section in the Writer Sidebar > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128683 > + Add Split Cells, Select Table, Table Cell Background Color, Borders, >Formula (F2) (Roman) > + Keep it simple and remove the Delete functions (Heiko) > > * TABLE: Don't draw the top and bottom border of the row that breaks across >pages > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128421 > + tweak row border on the fly - sounds like a lot of effort for little >benefit > > * TABLE: Table columns: use percents as a default > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128278 > + WF, though request makes sense > > * Uniformity to be applied by default to styles 'Heading x' > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128532 > + change heading styles or keep as it is > > * Impress Page Setup dialog with a resolution of 1366 x 768 requires a lot of >scrolling > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126128 > + revert the patch (Heiko) > > * Numbering List Presets in Bulgarian (4x), Russian (4x), Serbian (4x) > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128640 > + needsDevEval > > >Full pad including backlog is here: >https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design > >Hope to see you on Jitsi at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/design > >Cheers, >Heiko > >-- >Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor >Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org >The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE >Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Open Badges
Hello all. I don’t like the idea about «Some activities have levels, for example bronze for submitting 1 patch, silver for 100, and gold for 1000. I would show this by color and stars on the image.» because it will be badly for Documentation team. I can write only one own guide or only two chapters for existing guide and it will be already huge contribution into our project but it will be only bronze =( I suggest use bronze/silver/gold levels only for Development/QA/Localization/UI when you can make thousands actions like submit patches, file a bug report, translate 100500 words in the pootle. Roman Kuznetsov >Среда, 24 июля 2019, 9:15 +03:00 от Heiko Tietze >: > >Dear design fellows, > >TDF plans to introduce badges [1] that are meant to award and recognize >contributions made to the project in the various aspects. And we, the design >team, got asked to provide catchy stickers. Some examples have been done a >couple of years ago [2] looking pretty good. But since the project has grown >we also need more stickers. > >We will have seven content types with different categories depending on the >content: >* Infra: Patrol the wiki, Moderate lists, Admin LO instances, Attend meetings, >Main sys admin group >* Development: Building LO, Attend ESC meetings, Admit to ESC, First commit, n >commits, Contribute with unit tests >* QA: Report bugs, Confirm bugs, Comment bugs, Bibisect, Improve report >metadata, Triage bugs, Mentor people, Report blogs item, Write UI tests, Write >cpp unit tests, Write unit tests in Python, Attend meetings, Participate to >BHS, Check regressions, Verify fixed bugs >* Documentation: Write a FAQ entry, Write a guide chapter, Proof read a >contribution, Write a HC entry, Commit a HC entry, Write an How-To/tutorial, >Register a video, Write wiki page, attended x meetings >* UX/Design: Attend meetings, n added icon to a set, n added comments on BZ, >meta categorization, file a ticket, comments on tickets, share ideas/mockups, >write blog entry >* Localization: Translate UI, Translate Help, Translate website, Translate >LOOL, Translate PR, Translation marathon, Translate Video, >Translate Documentation, Translate Mktg material, Review translations, >Maintain NLP sites >* Native language project: All contributions in native language, local events >organization, local events attendance, local blogs >* Community/Social marketing: Design material, Website contribution, Blog >contribution, Booth attendance, Events attendance, SSO account >* Product marketing: Attend meetings >* Community support (Ask LibO): Moderation, Answering, Asking, Tagging/cleaning >* Misc: Consolation prize, Membership Committee member, Board member, >LibreLadies member > >As you can see, the of badgable activities can be improved (suggestions >welcome). So the artwork needs to be flexible. Some activities have levels, >for example bronze for submitting 1 patch, silver for 100, and gold for 1000. >I would show this by color and stars on the image. > >So putting all together, the idea is to draw images that ideally are easy to >recognize as related to TDF (donkey ear) with shapes per content (eg. shield, >circle, star, book, pentagon...) and different icons inside. The frame may or >may not receive decorations (ie. stars). A rough draft of the idea is here >https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/PFLzsXxTEaTaiz3 > >Everyone who is capable of visual artwork, please help with design of those >badges. More ideas and opinions are welcome too, of course. > >Cheers and thanks in advance, >Heiko > >[1] https://openbadges.org/ (formerly https://wiki.mozilla.org/Badges ) >[2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Badges >-- >Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor >Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org >The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE >Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Design ideas wanted! Open Badges for LibreOffice contributions
Franklin, there isn't a file :D BR, Kompi >Четверг, 14 февраля 2019, 15:26 +03:00 от Franklin Weng < >frank...@libreoffice.org >: > >Oops, sorry, here is the file. > >Franklin Weng 於 2019/2/14 下午8:20 寫道: >> Hi Mike, >> >> Mike Saunders 於 2019/2/12 下午11:45 寫道: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm working with Sophie Gautier on implementing the Open Badges system >>> in our community: https://openbadges.org >>> >>> In short, it lets us recognise achievements of community members, by >>> issuing badges when certain targets are reached (eg after a certain >>> number of code commits, or updates to the wiki). We're working with the >>> infra team to see what's possible, but in the meantime, we'd like to get >>> some design ideas for badges! >>> >>> I've gone through the process of issuing a badge, but the standard >>> design isn't very exciting: >>> >>> https://newdesign.libreoffice.org/rookie-badge-issuer.png >>> >>> We'd like to have something with much more LibreOffice identify, based >>> on the branding and colour guidelines here: >>> >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding >>> >>> If anyone wants to try a few concepts or mockups, that'd be great :-) >>> The main design requirement is that they fit into a square, and have a >>> transparent background, like the example above. >>> >>> Thanks :-) >> Here is one proposal for the badge design, by my friend (in Taiwan). >> >-- >Franklin Weng, Member, Board of Director & Certification Committee >The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE >Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Sep-05
Hello, all. I agree with "killing" Firefox personas. And I like adding just 4-5 solid color themes. BR, Roman Kuznetsov aka Kompilainenn >Четверг, 6 сентября 2018, 11:03 +03:00 от Pedro Rosmaninho >: > >Agreed, I would kill Firefox personas. It works tremendously slow, and it's >not very useful. >Also most personas do not look good with shipped icons. It would be >preferable to adequately offer a dark theme in every OS (Firefox is going >to support W10 dark theme with version 63). >At most offer 4 or 5 color themes (pastel colors based on modules dominant >colors maybe?). > >On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:52 AM kainz.a < kain...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I am not sure how many work firefox personas are. In general l would prefer >> different color schemes instead of personas. >> >> Stephan Bergmann < sberg...@redhat.com > schrieb am Do., 6. Sep. 2018, >> 08:41: >> >> > On 05/09/18 20:49, Heiko Tietze wrote: >> > > * Personas not found again >> > > + importance high/major! >> > > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 >> > > + >> > >> >> http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/About-Persona-lightweight-themes-td4244320.html >> > > + Options: >> > > + remove this feature completely >> > > + don't access images via network but ship a few and make the >> > feature an extension >> > > + revamp the code to adopt the new API >> > > + ? >> > > => preference to simplification and extension (Heiko) >> > >> > Not sure from the above what part exactly of the feature you want to >> > turn into an extension (the code itself or the persona data), but one >> > note: In general, be careful when including new kinds of data content >> > in extensions. That creates new interfaces between LO and extensions, >> > and those interfaces need to be kept compatible, which is a maintenance >> > burden. >> > >> > -- >> > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> > Problems? >> > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> > Posting guidelines + more: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >> > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy Роман К. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Aug-08
Hello, all. I disagree with some stuff from patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/56912/ : "- Format -> Conditional and Style stuff was moved to Sheet where the Style stuff is located in writer. In writer there are NO Style items in Format" Conditional FORMATTING is type of Format for cell! Don't need move it into menu Sheet Menu Style in Writer is different item of main menu and there is menu Style in Calc also. Why do Style stuff move to menu Sheet? Move it (what are Style stuff you want to move from Format?) to Style. And yes, we'll be confuse many users again BR, Roman Kuznetsov aka kompilainenn >Среда, 15 августа 2018, 20:19 +03:00 от Heiko Tietze : > >Present: Stuart, Nickson, Heiko > > * Heavy changes regarding menu; review needed > + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/56912/ > + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/56980/ > => we need additional UX/dev eyes on these patches > > * Bundle the new "EB Garamond" font with LibreOffice > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119085 > + https://fonts.google.com/specimen/EB+Garamond > + https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond > + SIL Open Font License 1.1 > + packed 2.5MB incl. OTF and TTF > + prefer an easy way to load fonts from extension site but for slightly now >tend to agree (Heiko) > + failing an extension, what to do now? > Q. do we integrate and ship? > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115944 and similar > + too many fonts that are not of common interest (Heiko) > + language scope of EB Garamond is just too limited (Stuart) > A. Keep the ticket open--but not bring it in yet. Need to wait for better >font weight handling cross platform > > * Styles & Formatting deck is overpopulated with styles > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69551 (and >tdf#118664) > + bad generic statement, disagree with the idea of "too many" styles > + what is a "good number of styles"?, what should to be dropped exactly? >(Heiko) > + we have several options to filter/sort styles (Stuart) > + we do not agree there is advantage to reducing the number of styles >(Stuart, Heiko) > + sorting of styles, move interesting to top of list > + reorganization of the default and sorting > + the GUI needs attention, reverse the toggle > => AI Heiko: look for reference sidebar mockups for better style workflow... > > * Introduce more text box styles in Draw/Impress > * https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94369 > + what exactly (these styles are hard-coded) > + Text Body, Title, Heading 1, Heading2, eading 3, QuotationsP, >PreformattedText, Bullet List, NumberList (Andreas) > + different editengine between Writer and Draw/Impress, > + implementation issues aside, do we want to mix Writer styles and Draw >styles? > + nice to do, but would be better to be able to do it globally > + meanwhile--matching the styles cross module requires each be duplicated, >too much work! > => maybe OK to do a few, 1 heading, 1 title, 1 text, etc. > > * Confusion with CALC: Show Comment on/off > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107144 > + comment 4 > + need a new icon for the single show/hide comment for cell > + make it clear the show all toggles all comments on off > + iconography to show multiple cells/comments and another for single >cell/comment > > * Autocomplete taking special characters > + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118399 > + WFM (Heiko) >=> postpone > > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy Роман К. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] new drawing styles for Draw
Hi, all. I don't like currently set of default drawing styles in Draw. So I want to try change default set of drawing styles to new set. In attach example of new styles. I created g-document for my notes about this work https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOfG24cGd5OftuHYG_vlokqyDhgGEZSOF9k_1OYe0BM/edit?usp=sharing I have some questions for design team also: Questions Answers Default now Version from kompi What default font and font size want we for all figures? Liberation Sans, 18 pt Noto Sans, 18 pt What default width want we for lines? 0 cm (very thin) 0,1 cm What default color want we for lines? Black/Blue Dimension line - Black For all another - Dark Blue 2 What default fill color want we for 2-D shapes? Old blue Linear Gradient, 30 dgr, from Light Blue 2 to Dark Blue 2, increment automatic What default font color want we for 2-D shapes? Black White How many different styles (fill color) want we for 2-D shapes in addition to the default? 1 5 (blue, red, green, orange, violet) Do we want different type of view for 2-D shapes (see below) except default style? See image in first column Do we want change default style for 3-D objects? No Do we want a few styles for text boxes as there are now? 9 (three Headings, three Titles, three type of simple text) (see Illustration below) 1 (just a black text, without fill, shadow and lines) Any opinion?? BR Roman Kuznetsov aka kompilainenn -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
