Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center
Hi guys, probably a good option should be to add a way to select multiple files with a select box, because some times some of us use 4 documents and need to open the 4 at same time and not start to pick one by one. 2013/11/14 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com Hi Kendy, all Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote Is there any way to merge the Start Center proposed in this topic and the existing in 4.2 Alpha with several tabs? I'm sorry - too late... I've just implemented the new design :-) http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/design-list/startcenter-new.png Damn... Anyway, it looks good much better than the current one (except for the missing tabs :) ) Well done! Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote Having played with the new startcenter myself, I like it a lot, and I very much prefer the tab-less design; please try the next nightly build report bugs - hopefully it works for you well too. I will try the nightly build. Hopefully there won't be any bugs to report ;) Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote Rodolfo will be hopefully able to spend some time on the keyboard navigation too; but still, that is something that we can fix during the beta phase. That is good (I'm a keyboard man, so I will be using those). I noticed you changed some of the hotkeys (it makes more sense that Open is either Alt+O or Ctrl+O) but be aware that some people will be annoyed for changing the keys that were already standard since (at least) OpenOffice.org... Using Alt+E for Templates AND Extensions is a bad idea :) It was a GOOD idea to remove the Edit and the Window menus (they were useless when only the Start Center is open) but maybe not for the View and Options which allowed people to have a toolbar (personally I never used it) and to configure Extensions and other options from the Start Center... Best regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Start-Center-tp4082013p4083134.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Maximiliano Augusto Castañón Araneda Santiago, Chile Linux user # 394821 XMPP: maxim...@mamalibre.com.ar maxim...@jabberes.org e-mail: maxim...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LO 4 banner idea
That image looks very nice, it liked me too :D 2013/2/6 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com Hi Issa, On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa wrote: Hello Daniel, k-j, Updated the time and removed Get it now because I thought it made it cluttered https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lo4-airport-ad.png Also uploaded an editable version for localization and whatsoever https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lo4-airport-ad.zip (although the led text is hand drawn so we should probably keep it in English). It looks great! Unfortunately, as it's in the PSD format, it's not accessible for our translators. I don't know if you could manage to convert it to GIMP's XCF format with editable text, but please remember to do so next time. You can either make the whole file in GIMP or create the bitmap parts in Photoshop and add text layers in GIMP. Or, if you create the image in Inkscape, that's even better! :) Thanks for the contribution. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Maximiliano Augusto Castañón Araneda Santiago, Chile Linux user # 394821 XMPP/Jabber: maxim...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] LO Writer UI Analysis
As a user, one option who left and it`s commonly used is the page numeration, and by default it should be disabled in the first page because it`s the frontpage... and an easy way to disable numeration or activate it for page or pair and odd pages. Just my opinion, that is fraquently asked by the users, because the common user need it, I guess this could have a button in the UI and an option to configurate in the same page and TOP or BOTTOM. Thanks 2013/1/29 Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com Hi Thibaut, this all looks really, really nice. I haven't read everything yet, but I wanted to comment on some things at least: 1. Needed UI elements = [...] Image: http://ubuntuone.com/7TZkH1e7vo88B637NEIjEc Well, the interesting thing is that we actually have data about how the toolbar elements in Impress are used (from Ooo 3.1). See [1]. We don't have the equivalent image for Writer – but we do have the corresponding data that is just waiting to be analysed. It's on the same page, look for the Usage Feedback Data spreadsheet. It would be phenomenal if you were interested in doing that to prove/disprove your various hypotheses. (Of course, it is entirely another thing to judge which functions of those not used often to emphasise more, so users can use them more, and which to simply remove from toolbars.) 1a - Remove the area to grab a toolbar. Instead, choose the same toolbar arrangement method as Firefox. The user has to right click on the toolbar and select 'Customize'. Most users don't change the arrangement of the toolbar, therefore there is no need to always display the grab area. My suggestion removes clutter and hides an advanced feature without making it too hard for a power user to guess where to find the functionality. There already is the possibility to lock toolbars (from the context menu) and that hides the grab area. Making this the default setting seems like a good change. 1b - Remove the 'Edit File' button - useless. Indeed, LibO is not such a great application to simply read documents in. 1c - Remove the 'Page Preview', the user can still find it on a common place - the file drop-down menu. This is a very complicated area. We currently have two previews: the page preview from the toolbar, and the preview that is in the Print dialogue itself. The former does not take into account actual page sizes that the printer can use, while the latter does. I regard this as a misfeature but there are people who defend this behaviour. :) 1d - Remove the 'Spelling and Grammar' button. Why should there be two such buttons? In this case, I would have opted for removing the other button. Why wouldn't you want misspelt text to be highlighted (i.e. why would you want a toggle for that in the toolbar)? Being able to open the proofing window from the toolbar is imho a more valuable function. 1e - Remove 'Table', 'Show draw Functions', Not sure I agree with these two. I use both rather often. 'Navigator', 'Gallery' and the I use neither very often, the problem here is that neither is very good at what they do: the gallery currently has almost no contents and the navigator is pretty clumsy. 'LibreOffice Help' buttons Agree. No need to have that in the toolbar. They are all a bit special and not needed by average users for most daily tasks. If a user wants to create a table, he can do so using the table menu, no need to have it visible all the time. Sure, but the table button makes creating a tables quite a bit faster since selecting the number of rows and columns is so much easier. 1f - Remove the 'Styles and Formatting' button. Its an advanced feature - normal users just ignore it - no need to have it there - it clutters the UI. Again, I disagree – our implementation is not ideal, but the functionality in itself is great, especially when writing e.g. papers, documentation ... 1g - Remove the button labeled 'Default' in the lower left corner. Its label is unclear and the button adds no value to the UI (remember average user point of view). This is a quick style switcher. Arguably, either this combo box or the style button should probably go in the longer run. 1h - Remove the 'Standard selection' and the save status button next to it. Both don't add anything useful to the UI. If the document has unsaved changes it can be viewed by looking at the much bigger save icon in the upper left corner. We had a long discussion about this already, with no real conclusion and no developer willing to work on this. I completely agree, though, that we could just show the file status on the Save icon, no need to show it in the toolbar. About the selection modes: if you know about them, they can come in handy ... once every three years 1i - Remove the small paper icons left from the zoom panel. I don't get what it is useful for after trying them several times and
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll
I agree, I have added my vote to the first email and then all follow the email with lot of votes, don`t know if I were wrong or it was like expected. 2013/1/29 Paul Greindl paul.grei...@riseup.net Ähh I think it was intended to add the votes to the last mail, but then people stopped doing so, so now I think it's best to just send your vote and put everything in place later. And yes, I completely agree: this is a little chaotic and the vote should be redone with a voting system! Paul On 29/01/13 19:55, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: Hi, I'm not sure how the voting system is supposed to work. I took the last email, and added my votes to that. Others took the plain list from the first mail and added their votes to that. What is the right way? Maybe an online voting system would help? Samuel Am 29.01.2013 08:49, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Hi Kévin, Samuel and all voters, we should avoid such things like -3. Am 29.01.2013 08:24, schrieb Kévin PEIGNOT: V2 by Javier Antonio Nisa Ávila: -3 Everybody has one vote for or against and do it so. At least doing such changes at a legal vote is making your whole vote uncountable in mostly every country. I will say that because the next one will do a +10 and a -1000. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Maximiliano Augusto Castañón Araneda Santiago, Chile Linux user # 394821 XMPP/Jabber: maxim...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
