Re: [libreoffice-design] LO 4 banner idea

2013-02-06 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Issa,
Am 06.02.2013 19:53, schrieb Issa Alkurtass:

Hello world,

Daniel just notified me that I accidentally replied this to him rather than to 
the whole list. I'm still new to this mailing lists thing :(
I did my own take on his idea 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Lo4-airport-ad.png


I don't hope this is from BER-airport ;-).

What do you think about the release date as time? So not 08:05 but 07:02 
(02:07 is much too early to fly).



Grüße
k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Buttons] Creating/Improving LibreOffice web banners/buttons for external website use

2012-05-08 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Alex,
Am 08.05.2012 17:32, schrieb Alexander Wilms:

Hi all,

I added two designs to the wiki page


Can you please make pngs, the svgs sometimes won't be shown in the right 
way.

In your case I only see two white rectangles with a red pink surrounding

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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VI] Advertising space in Linux User Developer ...

2011-06-23 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Tobias,
Am 21.06.2011 01:30, schrieb Tobias Bernard:

hi

here's a quick proposal.
  what do you think?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Ad_A4.png
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibO_Ad_A4.svg


We should put our voted Motif in the adverts in any way:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page

2011-06-06 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Nik,

Am 06.06.2011 18:37, schrieb Nik:

Hi all,

This is probably not going to go down well with those who have submitted
proposals for this task already, but I think we should re-evaluate
whether some sort of adopt-o-meter will actually /clarify/ things for
users. While the proposals so far were good, I think I understood them
only because I knew of the request for them to be made. As a /user/,
these visual elements are actually quite confusing;

If you put a scale in, does that mean I can either have Stability or
Features but not both? How am I going to decide what that even means for
me if I haven't used the software yet?
Why is 3.3.2 mentioned twice on some scales, does that make it superior
to 3.4.0?
What IS an early adopter? is it someone who downloads in the next few
months? is this a new office suite?
Does red/orange suggest that this isn't safe software? Does it indicate
higher processing/resource demands?

I haven't been to the downloads page for a while, after heading there I
realised most of the problem was the way it is presented.
it is *VERY* user-*un*friendly;

- How are beginner-users supposed to know what x86 means?
- Why is there no emphasis on the actual software download link as
opposed to the language/help packs?
- What is with the COMPLETE AND UTTER LACK OF A *DOWNLOAD BUTTON* on
this downloads page?

By comparison, there is no confusion about what to press when you head
to Mozilla[1], Ubuntu[2], Google[3] or even Microsoft's[4] sites;
[1] http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fx/
[2] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[3] http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/download/index.html
[4]
http://www7.buyoffice.microsoft.com/asia/product.aspx?sku=10234643cache=793687343culture=en-AU


I think the cryptic filename-links need to go and the page just needs
emphasis placed on the right details.
It's useless to just say this, so I've made a mock-up of a preferable
state for the downloads page;
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:PROP_DownloadsPage_110606NS.jpg
I don't know how possible that is to implement, but I'm happy to cough
up the images of someone is willing.


Your mockup is too important to hide it under this thread.
We should make an own thread for this and invide the website-ml for 
discussion.




But essentially, I honestly don't think the Adopt-o-meter graphics are
helping things right now.
I think users just need to see a big fat friendly green download button
with all the affordances they've come to expect.
I think the adopt-a-meter is essentially marketing-jazz on what is
essentially Usability-turf. Just my opinion though.

-Nik

PS. I realised my mock-up doesn't have download-size listed anywhere, my
bad.



k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page

2011-06-03 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi all,
Am 02.06.2011 23:18, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

Hi Kendy, all,

Jan Holesovsky schrieb:

[...]
[Having said that, it still differs a bit from the original idea - I
hoped to have a set of 3 images that we wouldn't have to update with
every upload of new version - we would be able just to stick it next to
the download links, but still, this is good :-)]


It took me quite a while to understand what you mean.

Did you think about something like this?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c4/Download_page_adapt-o-meter.png


I uploaded the tachometers to the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Adapt-o-meter_early.png


This picture tells me that it is dangerous to use the actual version 
3.4.0 because it is in the red (or orange) area.


And when we have 3.4.1 or higher it is the same. But 3.4.1 will be a 
release with bug fixes. Red/orange areas should only be for betas/RCs 
but not for actual versions. All actual versions should be in a green 
area.



I personally don't like such a adopt-o-meter which looks like a 
speedometer to show which version is the best. It's looks rowdy, 
ostentatious for me (The Fast and the Furios).


Bernhard's first and Vamsi's proposals show a more reputable software. 
And even the version 3.4.0 *is* a reputable version.


 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/c4/Download_page_adapt-o-meter.png 



This mockup shows the problem when we use a circular button. It is 
getting too wide if we put two meters side by side.


My 0.5 cents


An other proposal:
What do you think about an interactive adopt-o-meter? We have a bar like 
Vamsi's fith proposal with Stability and Features but only showing 
the version where the moveable slider is. When the user slides the 
sliding pot he views an other version.


(I'm not able for now to show on a mockup what I mean, sorry)

Grüße
k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-design] 'adopt-o-meter' for the download page

2011-06-02 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Vamsi,
Am 02.06.2011 16:11, schrieb Vamsi Kodali:

Klaus,
How do I upload my image files to the wiki?


There are three ways:
- You look on the left menubar: Special:Upload
- Follow this link: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Upload
- you write on the wiki page the link to the file:
e.g [[Image:AdoptVamsi01.png]]
, make a preview and click on the read link (right click and new tab to 
not loose the preview). There you will be asked to upload the file.


Of course you must be logged in.

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[libreoffice-design] Yellow 0 and 1 in the Color Table

2011-05-24 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi all,
can someone tell me the right cmyk for our branded yellow 0 or yellow 
1 or should I phone someone on the skype number 0 22 100 47?


See for this:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Color_Table

Ok, it was ironic.
Can someone change the numbers in the right way? I don't find the right 
switch for changeing it.

Or should I ask someone at the websitelist?

k-j


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Re: [libreoffice-design] voting on Visual Design tag

2011-05-22 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Am 21.05.2011 22:47, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:


Possible tags would be:
[VI] for Visual Identity


+1

k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Notice (request?) use of logo ( was: A LibreOffice logo for use on an external web site )

2011-05-06 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Drew,
Am 06.05.2011 17:09, schrieb drew:

[1] The insert graphic (will likely use this in a blog also)
http://lo-portal.us/temp/usoo-sticky-post-img-shdw.png


Great stuff.

Two things:
First
I know it is a text problem but
The text left of the figure has a virtual line from down left to up right.
The right text has the form of an arc (closed bracket).

Figured:
  /Get help Users\
 /Stay current  Supporting)
/Give support   Users/

Second:
The figure seems to be a little bit close to the text above.

I'm pleased about the usage of the motif and the correspondence to the 
figure:

For me it shows happiness, pleasure, throwing confetti ;-).
Really great.

Can we also have this logo without the OpenOffice.org User Forum to 
use it on our websites?



Greetings
k-j


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Scatter brained?

2011-04-17 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Bernhard, Nik, *,
Am 17.04.2011 13:52, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

drew schrieb:

On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 00:26 +0200, Bernhard Dippold wrote:


Would it be reasonable to upload the source and/or a high res bitmap
of
the card to the wiki


Yes


and link it to the existing design page?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs


added to the page, as example, just now


Thanks a lot!

If Nik can provide the high res, we should integrate the link too...


I put it in the Motif page [1]. Chapter: Examples.
We should do the work and the links there.

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Examples

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] First adaption of the motif in real life

2011-04-06 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Drew, Bernhard, *,
Am 06.04.2011 16:23, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol:

Hi Bernhard,
Am 06.04.2011 12:14, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

Hi Klaus-Jürgen, all

Klaus-Jürgen Weghorn wrote:


Hi Bernhard,
Am 06.04.2011 10:10, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

Hi Helio, all,



We should collect all these designs on the wiki.

Anybody has time to do so?


I will try do to it later the day if no one else will do it.


Great! (but I still hope for somebody else as I konw about the time you
spend on our wiki and website...)


Of course.
If someone wants to help me or if someone wants to take the whole page:
I have started to develope the page under
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/lo-la



O.k. Now the content is on
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs

Let's work on it.

Grüße
k-j


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-design] DFD banner for our website

2011-03-29 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Bernhad,
Am 29.03.2011 22:07, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

Hi Klaus-Jürgen,

As time becomes too short for any design decision, I move this
discussion back to the website list, because the banner should be
uploaded ASAP.

Please follow-up there...

I agree:

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol schrieb:

[...]

We only put the right banner for the next two days:


Removing the (more or less outdated) challenge banner seems to be
reasonable.

As DFD is tomorrow, we will not loose too many donations, when we only
provide a small banner for DFD.

But if we just want to show the small DFD banner, I think it is more
reasonable to use the official DFD banner instead of a I uploaded the
120x60px version from the DFD 2011 artwork page to our wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:DFD_Banner_120x60.png


+1


Can one of our admins replace the current banner with the DFD banner
(moved to the right) ?

And remove it on Thursday, when DFD is over?

I'd prefer to have a Keep on donating banner there as well, but your
comment is reasonable:


The problem is: We should not decide about the banner in a fast way.
This banner (without the DFD but with the text) should be our banner
for the next time.



We must/want to change the current banner and develop a new.


So we should have only the DFD banner for tomorrow - and no banner at
all until we have created a new Donate!-Banner.


We can put the old banner back as long as we have no new banner.


Any comments, objections, better ideas (to be implemented in this very
short timeframe)?


No.

Grüße
k-j


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Re: [libreoffice-design] [VOTE] Design task: LibreOffice Motif

2011-03-20 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Nik,
Am 19.03.2011 06:01, schrieb Nik:

Hi guys,

So the Design phase for the Motif proposals has just expired, thanks
heaps to anyone that participated in the discussion and the proposals.
I've put together a list of all the candidates from the proposals
accumulated on the Motif page;

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif

as mentioned in a previous Email, we will vote on this Mailing list
(because it is presumably convenient for all who are registered here,
and aren't on the wiki) and I will collate the results on the above Wiki
page (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif#Voting). The
voting concludes midnight this Sunday (GMT).

To vote for you preferred proposal, scan the above page quickly so you
get a feeling for all the proposals, then, add a +1 yourname next to
the proposal of your choice. For example, here is a fake poll filled out
by John;
EXAMPLE PROPOSALS
Red proposal
Blue proposal, +1 John
Green proposal

It would help a lot if you only replied to this original Email instead
of a reply posted by other members, so there is no confusing quoted
votes (in case people omit their name).
So without further ado, here are our beautiful finalists;

*MOTIF DESIGN PROPOSALS;*
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Christoph's Triangle patterns

+1 k-j


Christoph's Large motif
Daniel's Overlapping coloured circles
Daniel's Remix of the repeating triangles
Ivan's Interweaved diagonals
Nik's MessyStack
Nik's OpenBook
Nik's ApplicationCorners
Nik's DocumentFlower
Nik's FoldedPage
Nik's Scatter
Tobias' Triangle patchwork pattern



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Motif draft

2011-03-10 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Nik, *,
Am 10.03.2011 18:25, schrieb Nik:

Hi Ivan and Design!

Today is the last day for adding motif proposals to the Wiki page;
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Motif

I've added mine (at the bottom). And a very hasty description because
I'm running short on time.
Mainly, my theme centres on the collaboration/community aspect. And
some exploration of the clipped corner.
Most of my shapes occur in six-sided configurations to reflect the
writer/calc/base/draw... apps.
Good luck with your own proposals. Remember, they don't have to be
perfect, they just have to be ready enough to be voted on.
We can refine them as a team a little later.

Hopefully we can stick to the proposed timeline and go to a vote end of
this week.
now for some feedback


When I saw the 6 for the first time I would take OpenBook. But after a 
while I think that the first (MessyStack) looks fresher.


MessyStack:
First I was irritated by the transparency of the messy pages.
The logo is quite good and on the right place. It was my first eye catch 
on this shape.
Maybe we can make 6 sheets and on the left edge of each sheet we can put 
one of the coloured triangles



OpenBook:
The logo isn't shown as good as in the others
Proposal: The same with the pages and the coloured triangles as in 
MessyStack



ApplicationCorners:
There are three motifs to look at: on the left top, on the right top and 
on the right bottom. My eyes are irritated where to look.


DocumentFlower:
It looks a little bit like in the seventies (1970s). In Germany we had a 
'Pril' flower that looks like it (a dish detergent).


FoldedPage:
I can't identify what the motif on the right side is. For me it is a 
green, transparency big point. Nothing else.

I think the logo should be on the right side.

Scatter:
It seems to be very restless for me

These are my personal non designer opinions.

k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Mission ... I mean ... Team Completed?

2011-02-15 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Christoph, *,
Am 15.02.2011 12:56, schrieb Irmhild Rogalla:

Dear Christoph, all

Am 15.02.2011 00:13, schrieb Christoph Noack:

Hi all,

just a short question whether you think that the team's description is
complete. If yes (everybody checks his neighbor), then I'd like to
continue with the kick-off ... and blog about us.

If you think something (or somebody is missing), please add your stuff
within the next 24 hours - thanks!!!


I'm really interest in UX Design and Usability - bringing real users
experience in further development. But I want to be a lurker for some
more time, so I didn't add my stuff to the team description.


I'm interested in Webdesign and as I descripted here [1] in some kind of 
barrierfree websites. But as Irmhild scripted I want to look first about 
your work, so I didn't add my stuff, too.


k-j

[1] http://go.mail-archive.com/XxrWY4WebA9afcNFR59Mvc8a3L4=

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