Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
2012/4/5 ape os...@yandex.ru
Hi Mirek,
Replacing the letter A will be a big mistake.
It seems to me the letter A should be used in other themes. We can delete
folders images.zip/cmd/{localy}, if we use the symbol A. This will help
reduce the program code and the size of image's archives, and The
LibreOffice will work slightly faster than before.
I agree.
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi
Even if I don't think it will reduce program code and make LibreOffice work
really faster, I think it's better use A just because we can't localize
icons for every language today, it's too much work.
Kévin
2012/4/6 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com
2012/4/5 ape os...@yandex.ru
Hi Mirek,
Replacing the letter A will be a big mistake.
It seems to me the letter A should be used in other themes. We can
delete
folders images.zip/cmd/{localy}, if we use the symbol A. This will
help
reduce the program code and the size of image's archives, and The
LibreOffice will work slightly faster than before.
I agree.
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Yah I'm a porgrammer and that won't make LibreOffice any faster. All it will do is make the download and program smaller whitch will make users happy. so we should still do it, but it won't make LO any faster. It's going to load one icon just as fast as any other. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
2012/3/27 Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.com does the decision of these icons effect all of the icons that require letters? ex Text Color, Highlight Color, text box, super/sub script... Yes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi everyone, I'll give this issue one more week, since it's turned out to be so controversial and I don't want to force a decision that half the team would be unhappy with. Maggie, if you'd like to have LibreOffice users take a poll on what they prefer, please organize it. Also, everyone, please bring up what you don't like about the icons, what you'd like to see improved, and don't hesitate to tweak the icons yourself. Thanks. :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
does the decision of these icons effect all of the icons that require letters? ex Text Color, Highlight Color, text box, super/sub script... On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'll give this issue one more week, since it's turned out to be so controversial and I don't want to force a decision that half the team would be unhappy with. Maggie, if you'd like to have LibreOffice users take a poll on what they prefer, please organize it. Also, everyone, please bring up what you don't like about the icons, what you'd like to see improved, and don't hesitate to tweak the icons yourself. Thanks. :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi Maggie, On , King Duck rotteneo...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for the lowercase icons. It makes the difference between italics and bold effects more obvious than the uppercase icons. Would there be time to put this up to a vote by the users of Libreoffice? This week's call for proposals uses the symbol for text, so I'd like to get this issue closed as soon as possible. If we agree, though, we could move this week's call for proposals up to next week and have a different topic for this week. Ivan, you're the only one who submitted something so far -- what do you think? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi Maggie, On , King Duck rotteneo...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for the lowercase icons. It makes the difference between italics and bold effects more obvious than the uppercase icons. Would there be time to put this up to a vote by the users of Libreoffice? This week's call for proposals uses the symbol for text, so I'd like to get this issue closed as soon as possible. If we agree, though, we could move this week's call for proposals up to next week and have a different topic for this week. Ivan, you're the only one who submitted something so far -- what do you think? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
2012/3/18 maz...@gmail.com Hi Maggie, This week's call for proposals uses the symbol for text, so I'd like to get this issue closed as soon as possible. If we agree, though, we could move this week's call for proposals up to next week and have a different topic for this week. Ivan, you're the only one who submitted something so far -- what do you think? You're right. We can take this week to solve the pending proposals -- of four calls only one proposal was approved. Now back to the icons, even though lowercase a looks pretty good, we have to use universal symbology, and uppercase A is the default symbol for text. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
We're nearing the end of our discussion deadline. Let's vote on whether to use lowercase [1] or uppercase [2] letters in Inkscape. The argument for lowercase letters is that bold/italic versions might be easier to differentiate. The arguments for uppercase letters are that they're crisper, fitting more in line with our design goals, and used more commonly (including by our current set). Keep in mind that the decision will impact forthcoming icons concerning text, such as Text Box, Underline, Cross-through, Over-line, Font, Superscript, Subscript, Text Color, etc. Based on this thread, the current votes are: Uppercase: 3 (me, Kévin, Sveinn) Lowercase: 1 (Adolfo) If I've misinterpreted your vote, please speak up, and if you haven't voted, please reply with your vote. Thanks. :) [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis_2.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis1b.png -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
OK, seems to win uppercase. Please try to use a font that makes the bold and italic icons different enough to be recognised, I'd recommend a black weight for the bold icon and a true, single-story italic for the other icon (this is the reason why I don't like Vegur, it is incomplete, does not have italics and IMO is just a Myriad rip-off). On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote: We're nearing the end of our discussion deadline. Let's vote on whether to use lowercase [1] or uppercase [2] letters in Inkscape. The argument for lowercase letters is that bold/italic versions might be easier to differentiate. The arguments for uppercase letters are that they're crisper, fitting more in line with our design goals, and used more commonly (including by our current set). Keep in mind that the decision will impact forthcoming icons concerning text, such as Text Box, Underline, Cross-through, Over-line, Font, Superscript, Subscript, Text Color, etc. Based on this thread, the current votes are: Uppercase: 3 (me, Kévin, Sveinn) Lowercase: 1 (Adolfo) If I've misinterpreted your vote, please speak up, and if you haven't voted, please reply with your vote. Thanks. :) [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis_2.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis1b.png -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
2012/3/17 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com OK, seems to win uppercase. Please try to use a font that makes the bold and italic icons different enough to be recognised, I'd recommend a black weight for the bold icon and a true, single-story italic for the other icon (this is the reason why I don't like Vegur, it is incomplete, does not have italics and IMO is just a Myriad rip-off). Vegur was voted as the official LibreOffice font a long time ago. It's especially advantageous for us because it's licensed under CC0, basically public domain. The only icon for which we need italics is the Italic icon, so that's not a big issue. I tweaked the original font to exaggerate bold and italics [1] -- do you think it's enough? [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis_2.png -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Em 17-03-2012 18:39, Mirek M. escreveu: We're nearing the end of our discussion deadline. Let's vote on whether to use lowercase [1] or uppercase [2] letters in Inkscape. The argument for lowercase letters is that bold/italic versions might be easier to differentiate. The arguments for uppercase letters are that they're crisper, fitting more in line with our design goals, and used more commonly (including by our current set). Keep in mind that the decision will impact forthcoming icons concerning text, such as Text Box, Underline, Cross-through, Over-line, Font, Superscript, Subscript, Text Color, etc. Based on this thread, the current votes are: Uppercase: 3 (me, Kévin, Sveinn) Lowercase: 1 (Adolfo) What about the tweaked uppercase version? I vote on it, it's a lot better to recognize. If I've misinterpreted your vote, please speak up, and if you haven't voted, please reply with your vote. Thanks. :) [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis_2.png [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis1b.png -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
I vote for the uppercase icons. It's not that hard to tell that its bold. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
I vote for the lowercase icons. It makes the difference between italics and bold effects more obvious than the uppercase icons. Would there be time to put this up to a vote by the users of Libreoffice? ~ Maggie On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Andrew Pullins android2...@gmail.comwrote: I vote for the uppercase icons. It's not that hard to tell that its bold. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi Yes we could, but : - We have to do this for EVERY ICON - We must try for each icon, each language, to be sure it's great looking ... Then, with using B,U and S for each language, the advantage is it's the same letter than it is in keyboard shortcut (at least it is in french instead of G, S and I ) But even with that, I stay for using A for every icon today, and then, someday, when major problems are solved, introduce this (little) feature. Kévin 2012/3/16 Ivan Silva Lago Filho ivan...@gmail.com As I said before and got no response, we could take the A samples and dinamically modify the contents of the tspan tag according to the language, since SVG is XML-based. 2012/3/16 Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com Good point, sorry about that. At any rate, I'm not convinced that a single letter -- upper- or lowercase -- is clear enough for a couple of reasons: 1. Iconography -- which is what an abstract uppercase A really is -- can be more confusing than language unless that icon is really clear. 2. The difference between the A when capitalized bolded is not clear enough in most fonts that would look good on an interface. It's a really subtle change. That said, consistent order in the placement of the images, immediate feedback, and familiarity with the system(s) will probably be enough to override the above, but I think it's worth noting just for the sake of discussion, anyhow. Whatever font is currently used for international symbols and signs, though, might be the place to start. - sabin On 3/15/2012 3:56 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: Þann fim 15.mar 2012 03:55, skrifaði King Duck: I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on the language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells the user what it does without having to refer to a specific word. ~ Maggie On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using B and I to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am curious as to why. For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital letter A. It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic A and a non-italic A. - sd I've responded to a similar question before: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03712.html Saw also that someone asked why not use lowercase letters. It's the same principle; uppercase *A*, /A/ and _A_ should be recognisable as *pictograms* representing the first letter of the Latin alphabet. There is a reason why signs read EXIT and not Exit at international airports - and also why those are progressively being replaced by symbolised person/arrow/door. Just thoughts. Sveinn -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Þann fim 15.mar 2012 03:55, skrifaði King Duck: I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on the language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells the user what it does without having to refer to a specific word. ~ Maggie On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using B and I to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am curious as to why. For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital letter A. It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic A and a non-italic A. - sd I've responded to a similar question before: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03712.html Saw also that someone asked why not use lowercase letters. It's the same principle; uppercase *A*, /A/ and _A_ should be recognisable as *pictograms* representing the first letter of the Latin alphabet. There is a reason why signs read EXIT and not Exit at international airports - and also why those are progressively being replaced by symbolised person/arrow/door. Just thoughts. Sveinn -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Good point, sorry about that. At any rate, I'm not convinced that a single letter -- upper- or lowercase -- is clear enough for a couple of reasons: 1. Iconography -- which is what an abstract uppercase A really is -- can be more confusing than language unless that icon is really clear. 2. The difference between the A when capitalized bolded is not clear enough in most fonts that would look good on an interface. It's a really subtle change. That said, consistent order in the placement of the images, immediate feedback, and familiarity with the system(s) will probably be enough to override the above, but I think it's worth noting just for the sake of discussion, anyhow. Whatever font is currently used for international symbols and signs, though, might be the place to start. - sabin On 3/15/2012 3:56 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: Þann fim 15.mar 2012 03:55, skrifaði King Duck: I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on the language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells the user what it does without having to refer to a specific word. ~ Maggie On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using B and I to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am curious as to why. For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital letter A. It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic A and a non-italic A. - sd I've responded to a similar question before: http://www.mail-archive.com/design@global.libreoffice.org/msg03712.html Saw also that someone asked why not use lowercase letters. It's the same principle; uppercase *A*, /A/ and _A_ should be recognisable as *pictograms* representing the first letter of the Latin alphabet. There is a reason why signs read EXIT and not Exit at international airports - and also why those are progressively being replaced by symbolised person/arrow/door. Just thoughts. Sveinn -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
I think it's because the words for bold and italic change depending on the language. If you just use a character and show the effect, it tells the user what it does without having to refer to a specific word. ~ Maggie On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Sabin Densmore sa...@onegecko.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, is there a particular reason we're not using B and I to indicate Bold and Italic? I don't care either way, but am curious as to why. For what it's worth, Thunderbird (what I'm using now) uses a capital letter A. It's just hard to tell the difference between an italic A and a non-italic A. - sd On 3/12/2012 7:39 AM, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: Hi everyone Sorry to have been off so much time (I'm very busy these times). In my part, I prefer Uppercases ones, just because they seems me more beautiful : I don't think upper or lower are more or less confusing. So, for me, it's just a mater of feelings, that's all ! Kévin 2012/3/11 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com 2012/3/11 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com I'd prefer lowercase icons, because they're more recognizable in a glance as I already said in the wiki page. Three uppercase As can be easily confused. Lowercase As can be confused just as easily. As stated -- if we need the bold icon to stand out more, I propose we simply make it a bit thicker. Nobody seems to have had any problems with the current Tango icon set, which uses uppercase letters. The Humanity (and Gnome) icon themes included in Ubuntu use lowercase, you can check apps like Inkscape or Abiword to see that. Oddly, Inkscape seems to use lowercase A only for the bold and italic icons. Every other icon with text uses a capital A to symbolize it. BTW, I don't quite understand how can uppercase or lowercase letters be more or less inline with your design goals. Uppercase icons are crisper, which is one of the design goals. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi everyone Sorry to have been off so much time (I'm very busy these times). In my part, I prefer Uppercases ones, just because they seems me more beautiful : I don't think upper or lower are more or less confusing. So, for me, it's just a mater of feelings, that's all ! Kévin 2012/3/11 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com 2012/3/11 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com I'd prefer lowercase icons, because they're more recognizable in a glance as I already said in the wiki page. Three uppercase As can be easily confused. Lowercase As can be confused just as easily. As stated -- if we need the bold icon to stand out more, I propose we simply make it a bit thicker. Nobody seems to have had any problems with the current Tango icon set, which uses uppercase letters. The Humanity (and Gnome) icon themes included in Ubuntu use lowercase, you can check apps like Inkscape or Abiword to see that. Oddly, Inkscape seems to use lowercase A only for the bold and italic icons. Every other icon with text uses a capital A to symbolize it. BTW, I don't quite understand how can uppercase or lowercase letters be more or less inline with your design goals. Uppercase icons are crisper, which is one of the design goals. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
Hi everyone, Sorry for the delay in putting new design topics up -- I've been away from the Internet today. As nobody had any issues with the alignment icons, they've been marked as approved. This means that they can be included in LibreOffice, but doesn't mean that we can't improve on them if anyone has any ideas. Now it's time to discuss and iterate on the proposed Bold and Italic iconshttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set. Keep in mind that the result of this discussion will determine whether we use an uppercase or lowercase A to represent text. - I'll kick off the discussion: I would prefer to utilize an uppercase A, as it's crisper, more inline with our design goals, and corresponds to the use of uppercase letters in most other icon packs. If we need a thicker bold icon, we could put an outline on it... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons
2012/3/11 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com I'd prefer lowercase icons, because they're more recognizable in a glance as I already said in the wiki page. Three uppercase As can be easily confused. Lowercase As can be confused just as easily. As stated -- if we need the bold icon to stand out more, I propose we simply make it a bit thicker. Nobody seems to have had any problems with the current Tango icon set, which uses uppercase letters. The Humanity (and Gnome) icon themes included in Ubuntu use lowercase, you can check apps like Inkscape or Abiword to see that. Oddly, Inkscape seems to use lowercase A only for the bold and italic icons. Every other icon with text uses a capital A to symbolize it. BTW, I don't quite understand how can uppercase or lowercase letters be more or less inline with your design goals. Uppercase icons are crisper, which is one of the design goals. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
