Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12
Yes, I can imagine. But if it's adapting already designed icons at least it's easier than redesigning them from the start. The thing is such an icon set would be suitable for Windows and KDE systems. The amount of people using it would be quite big. But there must be someone interested in moving forward with this otherwise it's a fruitless discussion. But you guys already identified the issues with the icon set, so it could be modified based on that. As for color being reserved for the app level in Breeze you could maybe argue that LO is such a big and complex software package that it should be considered differently? It is the second biggest open-source project after the Linux kernel after all... On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote: > Andreas Kainz is the maintainer of Breeze icons. He did not only > submit the LibreOffice icons in Breeze style but also most of the > icons for KDE software. Colors are reserved for the app level in > Breeze, functions are basically monochrome. I challenged him two years > ago with the idea of a colorized Breeze set- and will not stop to poke > him. The colors would need to be defined according the functional > scope, e.g. style stuff in blue, device things in green etc. Another > issue with the set reported by users is that line strokes are very > thin. And we want to have the set in different sizes with a level of > detail depending on it. Hell of work, altogether. > > 2017-01-18 17:38 GMT+01:00 Pedro Rosmaninho : > > Why don'tyou ask for help of the KDE guys to make a new colored Breeze > > theme? They've created a bunch of colored icons to use on desktop maybe > LO > > could use something similar? > > Or ask them for help to change the icons to increase legibility so that > it > > can be adopted as the default theme in Windows? The adoption rate of W10 > has > > been quite big and occured very fast so adopting a theme that suits it > > better than to legacy W7 with an ever decreasing market share would make > > sense... > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12
Andreas Kainz is the maintainer of Breeze icons. He did not only submit the LibreOffice icons in Breeze style but also most of the icons for KDE software. Colors are reserved for the app level in Breeze, functions are basically monochrome. I challenged him two years ago with the idea of a colorized Breeze set- and will not stop to poke him. The colors would need to be defined according the functional scope, e.g. style stuff in blue, device things in green etc. Another issue with the set reported by users is that line strokes are very thin. And we want to have the set in different sizes with a level of detail depending on it. Hell of work, altogether. 2017-01-18 17:38 GMT+01:00 Pedro Rosmaninho : > Why don'tyou ask for help of the KDE guys to make a new colored Breeze > theme? They've created a bunch of colored icons to use on desktop maybe LO > could use something similar? > Or ask them for help to change the icons to increase legibility so that it > can be adopted as the default theme in Windows? The adoption rate of W10 has > been quite big and occured very fast so adopting a theme that suits it > better than to legacy W7 with an ever decreasing market share would make > sense... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12
Why don'tyou ask for help of the KDE guys to make a new colored Breeze theme? They've created a bunch of colored icons to use on desktop maybe LO could use something similar? Or ask them for help to change the icons to increase legibility so that it can be adopted as the default theme in Windows? The adoption rate of W10 has been quite big and occured very fast so adopting a theme that suits it better than to legacy W7 with an ever decreasing market share would make sense... On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:22 PM, kainz.a wrote: > Hi > > 2017-01-12 14:03 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze : > > > Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko > > > > Tickets > > > > * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows > >+ https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd > >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 > >+ https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW > > + 60% Yes after one day > >+ Yes (Tomazs) > >+ No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy, > > Heiko) > >/keep it for now > > > > In Win 7 tango fit's well. I don't know how it will fit in Win 10. > I can't change the breeze icon geometry, but as everything is svg, > color changing wouldn't be a problem to fit windows better. > > > > * Installer icon > >(last week) > >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677 > > https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/ > > attachment.cgi?id=128467 > >+ Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay) > >+ Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay) > >+ See what other installers use (Jay) > >+ Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay) > >+ Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko) > >(this week) > >+ Andreas' solution is good (Kendy) > >+ leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay) > >/ Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas' > > solution (Kendy) > > > > I used tango icons for the installer, cause the installer is for windows > and tango is the default icon set, so the default design language for > windows. > > I can also make a proposal for another design language (breeze, galaxy, > sifr, ...) > but I wouldn't prefer to have an installer icon that fit's any LO design > language. > So say what you want and I will have a look if I can make it happen. > > cheers > Andreas K > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12
Hi 2017-01-12 14:03 GMT+01:00 Heiko Tietze : > Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko > > Tickets > > * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows >+ https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 >+ https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW > + 60% Yes after one day >+ Yes (Tomazs) >+ No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy, > Heiko) >/keep it for now > In Win 7 tango fit's well. I don't know how it will fit in Win 10. I can't change the breeze icon geometry, but as everything is svg, color changing wouldn't be a problem to fit windows better. > * Installer icon >(last week) >+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677 > https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/ > attachment.cgi?id=128467 >+ Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay) >+ Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay) >+ See what other installers use (Jay) >+ Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay) >+ Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko) >(this week) >+ Andreas' solution is good (Kendy) >+ leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay) >/ Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas' > solution (Kendy) > I used tango icons for the installer, cause the installer is for windows and tango is the default icon set, so the default design language for windows. I can also make a proposal for another design language (breeze, galaxy, sifr, ...) but I wouldn't prefer to have an installer icon that fit's any LO design language. So say what you want and I will have a look if I can make it happen. cheers Andreas K -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Jan-12
Present: Jay, Tomazs, Kendy, Steve, Heiko Tickets * Make Breeze the default icon set on Windows + https://pirati.ca/display/a6551d712873888e843e54a74a8e772a61684afd + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/H6W86P19atW + 60% Yes after one day + Yes (Tomazs) + No, because Breeze is not enough colorful and too thin (Jay, Kendy, Heiko) /keep it for now * Installer icon (last week) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103677 https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128467 + Double-check if ico contains multiple images (Jay) + Tango is not really up-to-date and not suitable for Windows (Jay) + See what other installers use (Jay) + Revert change like Stuart mentioned (Jay) + Let's check other installers and decide next week what to do (Heiko) (this week) + Andreas' solution is good (Kendy) + leave it as it is as the default is very close to what we have (Jay) / Make a test first with a nightly build that contains Andreas' solution (Kendy) * Button order in confirmation dialogs + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104897 + Do we have a programmatical way to swap buttons? + https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ok-cancel-or-cancel-ok/ + Windows puts Ok first, Apple puts OK last + Gnome and KDE uses "Save/Discard/Cancel" or "Yes/No/Cancel" sequence + https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/HIG/Dialogs + http://vim-dev.vim.narkive.com/qFf5LUMj/gnome-hig-compliance-in-gvim-button-order-in-close-confirmation-dialogs-patch + But Gnome puts confirmation also last https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/dialogs.html.en + Caolan has a plan (for years); ticket is maybe a duplicate (Kendy) * Drop html export + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66259 + just drop the html export options or kill the html export completely? + filters are working and function is useful but devs need to clean up the code mess (Kendy) + dialog is about exporting slides to images (Tomasz) + better go with svg export (Kendy) + drop the wizard (Tomasz, Kendy) (and suggest users to go with svg) + but keep the html export (Kendy) + make new single page html export an easy hack and export just slides with original images (Tomasz) + have a dialog with at least the option to export one or all pages (Heiko) + clean up the export(as) features in Impress/Draw (Tomasz); make it consistent -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
