Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Sophie]

Hi Andreas,
Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
> Hello Heiko,
> 
> Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
>>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
>>> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
>>> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
>>> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
>> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that 
>> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions 
>> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as a 
>> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions.
> 
> I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the
> eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think
> fresh and independent eyes would be of great help.
> 
> About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss
> and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before
> the web-designer starts working.

I went to the site and here is my feedback:
- on the Home page, only English is listed, will the other available
languages be listed here?
- it is said "A place to upload your extensions" but most of the users
will want to download them
- then I clicked on Extensions, there is only one available for the tests?
- Clicking on Danger signs, there is a mix of languages listed at the
top but if you don't read English, there is no way to head here on the
previous pages.
- If there is more that 10 languages, you have to scroll down a long way
before you arrive to the download part, much too long, isn't it possible
to have a direct link to download?
- once clicked on the version to download, another page open, which is
very long for just one extension, you should be able to download from
the top of the previous page.

Here is a first feedback, if you need me to upload an extension, let me
know.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hello,

Am 25.01.2016 um 19:38 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> On Monday, 25 January 2016 19:30:32 CET Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> Some use Google despite repeated complaints of others. We have pads then, if
>> the wiki is not deemed to be the right place
> Sharing a document on two places is worse than everything else. But here it 
> is: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/Extensions_Templates_Website
thanks for the feedback. I added already some comments.
Some points in your feedback are a bit difficult to solve, because they
are part of the Plone-Core.
I have also some questions about some of your comments. I try to add
some further comments.

Kind regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hello Sophie,

Am 25.01.2016 um 15:56 schrieb Sophie:
> Hi Andreas,
> Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
>> Hello Heiko,
>>
>> Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>>> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
 although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
 possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
 need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
 perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
>>> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that 
>>> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions 
>>> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as 
>>> a 
>>> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions.
>> I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the
>> eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think
>> fresh and independent eyes would be of great help.
>>
>> About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss
>> and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before
>> the web-designer starts working.
> I went to the site and here is my feedback:
> - on the Home page, only English is listed, will the other available
> languages be listed here?
> - it is said "A place to upload your extensions" but most of the users
> will want to download them
> - then I clicked on Extensions, there is only one available for the tests?
> - Clicking on Danger signs, there is a mix of languages listed at the
> top but if you don't read English, there is no way to head here on the
> previous pages.
> - If there is more that 10 languages, you have to scroll down a long way
> before you arrive to the download part, much too long, isn't it possible
> to have a direct link to download?
> - once clicked on the version to download, another page open, which is
> very long for just one extension, you should be able to download from
> the top of the previous page.

thanks for your first feedback.

- The different languages will be provided.

- The text is a placeholder and could be extended/edited. Suggestions
welcome.

- I created only one Extension (copy and paste from the current site) to
provide an example project.

- I copied the current state of the extension from the current site. The
description was a complete copy. If there would be a translation
(different languages of the extension project) the description text
would be shorter (only one language for each).

- It's possible to rearrange the project page to get the direct download
link (the green arrow) more prominent for the user (would be easy
because it's like hacking on HTML structure).

- The versions table is for all versions. The newest version is on top
of that table and the download link is the green arrow.

> Here is a first feedback, if you need me to upload an extension, let me
> know.

Please try to register an account, create a new project and add an
extension release to the project. I'm curious of your further feedback then.

I should create a Redmine ticket to collect all feedback / tasks I had
to work on.

Kind regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Heiko Tietze]

Hi Andreas,

looks like a lot of work - done so far and up to do. I prepared a GDoc for
the user-centered development. To get better feedback you rather ask more
specific questions like "Please register, log-in, and change your account
name. Does it works flawless for you?" Or even better observe how people
interact with the page.
I tried to deal with all aspects briefly (section Test) but in the end this
might be not too helpful for you. But have a look yourself and don't
hesitate to check back. My suggestion is to compare your goals with the
artifacts that I have in mind, i.e. intended goal, scope, use cases etc.
And for the UI my general recommendation is to strip down all features that
are not required. And there are a lot at the pages...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyYV2tigyzCB_hZWljHs8wePPEhuA1mWeCEg38FfugA/edit?usp=sharing

The doc is free to edit and comment for everyone.

Cheers
Heiko

PS: If you want to get more opinions we could schedule a hangout for Friday
with the UX people. 14:00 GMT is the normal meeting, perhaps 15:00 would be
okay if you are free.

2016-01-25 15:56 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Andreas,
> Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
> > Hello Heiko,
> >
> > Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> >> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
> >>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
> >>> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
> >>> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
> >>> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
> >> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that
> >> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX
> confusions
> >> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words,
> as a
> >> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of
> functions.
> >
> > I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the
> > eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think
> > fresh and independent eyes would be of great help.
> >
> > About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss
> > and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before
> > the web-designer starts working.
>
> I went to the site and here is my feedback:
> - on the Home page, only English is listed, will the other available
> languages be listed here?
> - it is said "A place to upload your extensions" but most of the users
> will want to download them
> - then I clicked on Extensions, there is only one available for the tests?
> - Clicking on Danger signs, there is a mix of languages listed at the
> top but if you don't read English, there is no way to head here on the
> previous pages.
> - If there is more that 10 languages, you have to scroll down a long way
> before you arrive to the download part, much too long, isn't it possible
> to have a direct link to download?
> - once clicked on the version to download, another page open, which is
> very long for just one extension, you should be able to download from
> the top of the previous page.
>
> Here is a first feedback, if you need me to upload an extension, let me
> know.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 25 janvier 2016 19:20:07 GMT+01:00, Heiko Tietze 
 a écrit :
>On Monday, 25 January 2016 18:47:32 CET you wrote:
>> Sorry for nitpicking but is there any strong reasons why this text is
>not on
>> our wiki instead of a US coppration now owning this content? I know
>> everyone can access it but it is not on our servers.
>
>It got into habits for the UX people to draft stuff on Google. I don't
>care 
>too much whether the discussion is on the etherpad or GDoc. What fits
>better 
>Andreas and the other people is fine to me. The wiki, however, is the
>last 
>place for information, meaning to grave in stones there.


Some use Google despite repeated complaints of others. We have pads then, if 
the wiki is not deemed to be the right place

Best,

Charles. 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Heiko Tietze]

On Monday, 25 January 2016 18:47:32 CET you wrote:
> Sorry for nitpicking but is there any strong reasons why this text is not on
> our wiki instead of a US coppration now owning this content? I know
> everyone can access it but it is not on our servers.

It got into habits for the UX people to draft stuff on Google. I don't care 
too much whether the discussion is on the etherpad or GDoc. What fits better 
Andreas and the other people is fine to me. The wiki, however, is the last 
place for information, meaning to grave in stones there.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Heiko,

Le 25 janvier 2016 16:55:10 GMT+01:00, Heiko Tietze 
 a écrit :
>Hi Andreas,
>
>looks like a lot of work - done so far and up to do. I prepared a GDoc
>for
>the user-centered development. To get better feedback you rather ask
>more
>specific questions like "Please register, log-in, and change your
>account
>name. Does it works flawless for you?" Or even better observe how
>people
>interact with the page.
>I tried to deal with all aspects briefly (section Test) but in the end
>this
>might be not too helpful for you. But have a look yourself and don't
>hesitate to check back. My suggestion is to compare your goals with the
>artifacts that I have in mind, i.e. intended goal, scope, use cases
>etc.
>And for the UI my general recommendation is to strip down all features
>that
>are not required. And there are a lot at the pages...
>
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyYV2tigyzCB_hZWljHs8wePPEhuA1mWeCEg38FfugA/edit?usp=sharing
>
>The doc is free to edit and comment for everyone.


Sorry for nitpicking but is there any strong reasons why this text is not on 
our wiki instead of a US coppration now owning this content? I know everyone 
can access it but it is not on our servers. 

Btw we have pads too , even for the design team.

Besided this, a big thanks for your report :-)
>
>Cheers
>Heiko
>
>PS: If you want to get more opinions we could schedule a hangout for
>Friday
>with the UX people. 14:00 GMT is the normal meeting, perhaps 15:00
>would be
>okay if you are free.
>
>2016-01-25 15:56 GMT+01:00 Sophie :
>
>> Hi Andreas,
>> Le 24/01/2016 17:21, Andreas Mantke a écrit :
>> > Hello Heiko,
>> >
>> > Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
>> >> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
>> >>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
>> >>> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first.
>We
>> >>> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a
>users
>> >>> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
>> >> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested
>well that
>> >> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX
>> confusions
>> >> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other
>words,
>> as a
>> >> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of
>> functions.
>> >
>> > I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with
>the
>> > eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I
>think
>> > fresh and independent eyes would be of great help.
>> >
>> > About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could
>discuss
>> > and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step
>before
>> > the web-designer starts working.
>>
>> I went to the site and here is my feedback:
>> - on the Home page, only English is listed, will the other available
>> languages be listed here?
>> - it is said "A place to upload your extensions" but most of the
>users
>> will want to download them
>> - then I clicked on Extensions, there is only one available for the
>tests?
>> - Clicking on Danger signs, there is a mix of languages listed at the
>> top but if you don't read English, there is no way to head here on
>the
>> previous pages.
>> - If there is more that 10 languages, you have to scroll down a long
>way
>> before you arrive to the download part, much too long, isn't it
>possible
>> to have a direct link to download?
>> - once clicked on the version to download, another page open, which
>is
>> very long for just one extension, you should be able to download from
>> the top of the previous page.
>>
>> Here is a first feedback, if you need me to upload an extension, let
>me
>> know.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Heiko Tietze]

On Monday, 25 January 2016 19:30:32 CET Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Some use Google despite repeated complaints of others. We have pads then, if
> the wiki is not deemed to be the right place

Sharing a document on two places is worse than everything else. But here it 
is: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/Extensions_Templates_Website
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hello Charles,

Am 23.01.2016 um 21:47 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
> Hello Andreas,
>
> Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-23 11:05 CET:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> ()
>> I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough
>> volunteers to test the current development status.
>>
>> There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible
>> to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has
>> given the new site a try up to now.
> We cannot force people to test the platform :-) So we may want to go ahead
> with the tendering process and make sure tests are included in the migration
> tender. Does it make sense?

although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
It's important to have a qa of the current forms and work flow before we
go ahead. If there is no interest to work on such tests I have some
issues with the conclusion of a huge demand in website improvements.

Once we made the necessary tests we could tender the migration, because
we know the connection of the old and the new content objects (and their
fields) then. The tests shouldn't take too much time. If we have a few
volunteers we could manage this maybe in a week or so. It's not a huge
effort. It's not like testing an office application ;-)

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Heiko Tietze]

On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.

What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that 
registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions 
but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as a 
non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hello Heiko,

Am 24.01.2016 um 11:59 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> On Sunday, 24 January 2016 11:42:44 CET Andreas Mantke wrote:
>> although we cannot force people to test, we need some tests from
>> possible contributors and not from migration professionals first. We
>> need to know, if there is nothing wrong in the work flow from a users
>> perspective and if there are no (minor) bugs.
> What specifically do you want to know? I guess you have tested well that 
> registration works, if stuff can get uploaded etc. I see some UX confusions 
> but those are likely to be solved during the migration. In other words, as a 
> non-contributor in this field I feel overwhelmed by the amount of functions.

I tested the add-on myself, but that's not the same as a test with the
eyes and the work flow of a non-developer (of this add-on). Thus I think
fresh and independent eyes would be of great help.

About the UX issues: maybe you could draft a list and we could discuss
and could sort them out. I think that would be a necessary step before
the web-designer starts working.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hello,

Am 10.01.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
> Hello Andreas, Cor,
>
> Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
>>> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
 Hi Cor,
 the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
 nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.

 But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:

 -- design of the new site
 -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
 -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
>>> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
>>> It's already budgetted for?
>> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
>> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.
> For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
> designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
> the same design (small variations are of course possible).
>
> When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
> one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
> migration)?

I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough
volunteers to test the current development status.

There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible
to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has
given the new site a try up to now.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Charles-H . Schulz]

Hello Andreas,

Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-23 11:05 CET:

> Hello,
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 22:33 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
>> Hello Andreas, Cor,
>>
>> Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
 Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
> Hi Cor,
> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>
> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>
> -- design of the new site
> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
 Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
 It's already budgetted for?
>>> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
>>> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.
>> For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
>> designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
>> the same design (small variations are of course possible).
>>
>> When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
>> one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
>> migration)?
>
> I'm afraid we could only start with further steps once we got enough
> volunteers to test the current development status.
>
> There is self-registration opened since some weeks. It's also possible
> to create and play with content on the test website, but nobody has
> given the new site a try up to now.

We cannot force people to test the platform :-) So we may want to go ahead
with the tendering process and make sure tests are included in the migration
tender. Does it make sense?

Best,

Charles.


>
> Regards,
> Andreas
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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16:

> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided
> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time
> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my  spare time and finished a
> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This
> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be
> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I
> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This
> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly
> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some
> weeks of work during my spare time).

Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that
you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board
to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by
someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully
understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The
site is important enough for such a move, IMO.

> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0:
> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions

Thanks for that, of course :)
Few remarks:
1) I was thinking about advantage when the split
Home | Extensions | Templates
is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast
majority comes to the site.
A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people.

2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the
way to search for an extension..

3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages.
Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in
relation to that design?

Thanks a lot,
Cor


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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hi Cor,

Am 10.01.2016 um 17:43 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16:
>
>> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided
>> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time
>> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my  spare time and finished a
>> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This
>> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be
>> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I
>> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This
>> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly
>> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some
>> weeks of work during my spare time).
> Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that
> you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board
> to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by
> someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully
> understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The
> site is important enough for such a move, IMO.

the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.

But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:

-- design of the new site
-- content transfer from the current site to the new one
-- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5

>
>> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0:
>> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions
> Thanks for that, of course :)
> Few remarks:
> 1) I was thinking about advantage when the split
> Home | Extensions | Templates
> is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast
> majority comes to the site.
> A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people.
I have not created a default view (page) for the home of the new site.
If we want to go with a website with translated content, I fear that the
home had to stay (with a default page [translated] with some information
for users).

>
> 2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the
> way to search for an extension.
This Plone live search will be disabled in the productive state. I have
not done this in the test site yet.

Every part of the site (extensions and templates) will have a search
form for products: extensions or templates. That is already implemented.
You will see the form once you click on one of the entries in by category.
>
> 3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages.
> Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in
> relation to that design?
Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.

Regards,
Andreas

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Andreas Mantke]

Hi,

Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
>> Hi Cor,
>
>> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
>> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>>
>> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>>
>> -- design of the new site
>> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
>> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
> It's already budgetted for?

we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
status. The tester need only to work with the forms.

It's always possible to change the view of the content objects (center,
project, release, linked release). We could discuss this display/view in
parallel.
>>> Few remarks:
> Thanks for the explanation!
>
>> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.
> I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods
>
The elements of your draft are all there (the ordering is a bit
different, but it's possible to rearrange them easily). The views are
created with TAL (Template Attribution Language), which is a bit
different from plain HTML.
(you could find the page templates in the github repository, e.g for the
center.:
https://github.com/tdf/tdf.extensionuploadcenter/blob/master/tdf/extensionuploadcenter/eupcenter_templates/view.pt

I got some hints for the current arrangement of the elements from the
de-Community-Meeting last year. But I'm open for other proposals.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Charles-H . Schulz]

Hello Andreas, Cor,

Andreas Mantke  @ 2016-01-10 20:03 CET:

> Hi,
>
> Am 10.01.2016 um 19:47 schrieb Cor Nouws:
>> Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
>>> Hi Cor,
>>
>>> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
>>> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
>>>
>>> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
>>>
>>> -- design of the new site
>>> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
>>> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5
>> Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
>> It's already budgetted for?
>
> we could tender that after we got some volunteer testers of the current
> status. The tester need only to work with the forms.

For the design of the new site, I would strongly suggest to rely on the
designer of the main web site, so that we remain coherent and consistent with
the same design (small variations are of course possible).

When could we start the tendering process (knowing there are two items here,
one being related to design, the other one to the platform development and
migration)?

Best,

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[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

[Cor Nouws]

Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
> Hi Cor,


> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
> 
> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
> 
> -- design of the new site
> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5

Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
It's already budgetted for?

>> Few remarks:

Thanks for the explanation!

> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.

I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods

Ciao,
Cor

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