Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Confirmation dialogs are never resizable on Windows (although I
> don''t find a guideline for this statement right now [1]).
>
Good point, indeed.

> And why should a user want to resize the "Export to PDF" dialog?
>
See later answers - it now has input fields in the signing tab page,
so conceivably it makes sense now?

> It adds a lot of complexity to the dialog since min/max width/height
> have to be considered carefully, a grid layout needs to be added,
> the properties have to be stored (per user/workstation/company?)
> etc.
>
Shouldn't most/all of that come for free now with the ui-layoutet
dialogs?

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-19 Thread K-J LibreOffice

Hi all,
starting with a discussion on German ml [1] about different sizes on the 
dialog box of "Export as PDF" in different UIs (bug 95178 [2]) Thorsten 
recognizes that 275 dialog boxes aren't resizable, others are resizable.


Is there any reason why they aren't resizable or can they be switched to 
resizable by default?


[1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg18978.html
[2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95178
[3] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg18985.html


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-19 Thread Katarina Behrens
Hi *,

> starting with a discussion on German ml [1] about different sizes on the
> dialog box of "Export as PDF" in different UIs (bug 95178 [2]) Thorsten
> recognizes that 275 dialog boxes aren't resizable, others are resizable.
> 
> Is there any reason why they aren't resizable or can they be switched to
> resizable by default?

We talked about that last Fri on #libreoffice-design -- this was targeted 
effort 
of Adolfo Jayme to have all dialogs comply to HIGs

Sample commits:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f7393810a7b716be3a2c99c86dc9d78bd834dbfa
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=dca47c4774a8373a7389268e3123bf8ebcf109c3

The rule, in this particular case, seemed to be "if there are no input fields 
in the dialog, make it non-resizable". And, IIRC, PDF export dialog got a new 
tab with input field(s) - the PDF signing tab - only after it has been made 
non-resizable

So if someone wants to fix an easy hack (very easy, really), this is a perfect 
opportunity, don't let it pass :)
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-19 Thread Heiko Tietze
On Monday 19 October 2015 15:58:32 K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi all,
> starting with a discussion on German ml [1] about different sizes on the
> dialog box of "Export as PDF" in different UIs (bug 95178 [2]) Thorsten
> recognizes that 275 dialog boxes aren't resizable, others are resizable.
> 
> Is there any reason why they aren't resizable or can they be switched to
> resizable by default?
> 
> [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg18978.html
> [2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95178
> [3] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg18985.html

Confirmation dialogs are never resizable on Windows (although I don''t find a 
guideline for this statement right now [1]). And why should a user want to 
resize the "Export to PDF" dialog? It adds a lot of complexity to the dialog 
since min/max width/height have to be considered carefully, a grid layout 
needs to be added, the properties have to be stored (per 
user/workstation/company?) etc. And imagine the dialog, which either suddenly 
grows in height when the width is being reduced or adds a scrollbar. So I 
would rather turn the question into "Why is xy resizable?" (xy = options, for 
instance; also the inbuilt file dialog is resizable but in this case for good 
reasons). Anyway, good question for the guidelines. :-)

[1] 
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn742499%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are not all dialog boxes are resizable?

2015-10-19 Thread Katarina Behrens
Hi *,

> starting with a discussion on German ml [1] about different sizes on the
> dialog box of "Export as PDF" in different UIs (bug 95178 [2]) Thorsten
> recognizes that 275 dialog boxes aren't resizable, others are resizable.
> 
> Is there any reason why they aren't resizable or can they be switched to
> resizable by default?

We talked about that last Fri on #libreoffice-design -- it was (~last fall) 
targeted effort of Adolfo Jayme to make dialogs comply to HIGs, 

Sample commits:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f7393810a7b716be3a2c99c86dc9d78bd834dbfa
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=dca47c4774a8373a7389268e3123bf8ebcf109c3

The rule, in this particular case, seemed to be "if there are no input fields, 
make the dialog non-resizable".  And, IIRC, PDF export dialog got a new tab 
with input field(s) - the signing tab - only after it's been made non-
resizable.

So if someone wants to have an easy hack done and fix this bug, this is a 
perfect opportunity, don't let it pass :)

-- 

Katarina Behrens

Softwareentwicklerin LibreOffice
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CIB software GmbH
Geschäftsstelle Hamburg
Flachsland 10
22083 Hamburg
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F +49 (40) / 28 48 42 -100

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