Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi Cor, On 2012-04-29 at 23:36 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: *For writer* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/1e/New-libreoffice-writer-statusbar-v1.png Nice look! Remark: not all items in the group Page are of the same kind. Page number and style is about content, The rest for the view of the document. Looks better compared to we have now, thanks! :-) Ah yes, it really looks nice. What do you think of the grouping, Kendy, as I noted? I don't have a really strong opinion about the grouping itself; I see as an improvement as such, and if we can tweak it to become even better, no problem with that :-) Regards, Kendy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi Kendy, Jan Holesovsky wrote (30-04-12 15:24) I don't have a really strong opinion about the grouping itself; I see as an improvement as such, and if we can tweak it to become even better, no problem with that :-) I do. I don't think that mixing page view and document content makes sense. Late night, I also was thinking that it would be a good start, if people really want to change the ordering and not only the appearance of the status bar, to make images of all current implementations over the various modules and maybe also various situation. Maybe there is some consistency too, that could be considered when thinking about changes. Well, things like that. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Jan Holesovsky wrote (24-04-12 09:13) Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl napsal(a): *For writer* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/1e/New-libreoffice-writer-statusbar-v1.png Nice look! Remark: not all items in the group Page are of the same kind. Page number and style is about content, The rest for the view of the document. Looks better compared to we have now, thanks! :-) Ah yes, it really looks nice. What do you think of the grouping, Kendy, as I noted? Thanks, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi all, Since there are some questions about functions on the status bar, here some documentation: This one is very good, not fulle up to date and only for Writer, but the most things are still true: http://www.ooowiki.de/StatusLeiste (German) And the section Status Bar in chapter 1 of this guide: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/8/85/0401DG3-IntroducingDraw.pdf In my experience the status bar is used by a wide variety of people and often very experienced, that are easily using right mouse etc etc. Removing functionality does not look an option too me. If the representation and the design can be improved: great. Also wrt functions that are hidden, e.g. the list of bookmarks when right clicking: that is not a problem per see. Even recently visible functionality has been removed from tool bars and replaced by hidden. HTH, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi, I'm new here, and feel a bit confused. If I want to suggest things, how do i do it. And is it possible to join the design team without all the emails? I have some suggestions and sketches for the startup window, but is this uninteresting for you, if your working on other things? Shameer On 26. apr., uke 17, at 06:56, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 25/04/2012 21:03, Andrew Pullins a écrit : Better idea. Make the status bar contextual, and only show the digital signature when there is one. There is no point in showing that there is no signature with a blank. Just don't show it. And when there is one it would appear. How does that sound Jean? That option is ok for me. The point is to make the information visible when a document is signed, without any user interaction. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Me too - the same problem - dunno did anybody receive my message, Maybe this is explained somewhere but cannot find where to start Jorma 26. huhtikuuta 2012 10.46 Shameer Nyland Ali sham...@shpa.no kirjoitti: Hi, I'm new here, and feel a bit confused. If I want to suggest things, how do i do it. And is it possible to join the design team without all the emails? I have some suggestions and sketches for the startup window, but is this uninteresting for you, if your working on other things? Shameer On 26. apr., uke 17, at 06:56, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 25/04/2012 21:03, Andrew Pullins a écrit : Better idea. Make the status bar contextual, and only show the digital signature when there is one. There is no point in showing that there is no signature with a blank. Just don't show it. And when there is one it would appear. How does that sound Jean? That option is ok for me. The point is to make the information visible when a document is signed, without any user interaction. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Le 25/04/2012 18:02, Alberto Delgado a écrit : Digital signature: Useless for most users, i think we should hide it somewhere. In the organization where I work, we have individual smartcards for id purposes, with which we can (and we do) sign documents. It is very handy to have this information visible somewhere. I'd *really* like the information to remain visible. The status bar seems the best place, unless some other idea comes. Document modification: Someone suggested to put an asterisk on the title like other programs, i think the same thing. +1 Insertion / selection modes: I played around with them for a while and they are generally useless, you can do all of that with basic keyboard shortcuts. Also, most users have no idea of the meaning of the weird abbreviations in the bottom. I say we remove it. Page: Maybe you can use this... somehow, i'd say we take it out too. (page) Style information is always useful to have. This allows to not have to click on the Style and Formatting bar, page category button, just to know the current page style. Please keep it. Visualization mode: if it was a selector it'd be ok... in the view menu, or the toolbar. But a simple indicator is quite useless since all you have to do to know what mode you are on is look at the screen. In Calc: Sheet: The sheet selection is right above it, no rel need for sheet x of x Have you ever had dozens of sheets? I'm sure you couldn't see all of them at once. Sum: I think this shows the value of the selected rectangle, which you can see inside the rectangle, no need for it either. You can change the function applied to the current selection (sum by default): just right click on the status bar. Very useful, too. So, I'd ask to keep that. In Impress: Position and size: How could you use that? These things are usually done by eye, most people don't use it, i think it should go too. The mouse is evil :) Many people use the dialogs to change that. Having the information *before* calling the dialog is useful. Template: No one ever bothers on checking this out, you usually choose the template you like without ever caring about it's name. The person looking at the presentation is not always the creator. There, I can see the template chosen by the author, then decide to change to something else. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
In the organization where I work, we have individual smartcards for id purposes, with which we can (and we do) sign documents. It is very handy to have this information visible somewhere. I'd *really* like the information to remain visible. The status bar seems the best place, unless some other idea comes. Ok, i didn't say it had no use, i said most users don't use it, maybe we could hide it by default, make it available in View. (page) Style information is always useful to have. This allows to not have to click on the Style and Formatting bar, page category button, just to know the current page style. Please keep it. I meant the page number page x of x Have you ever had dozens of sheets? I'm sure you couldn't see all of them at once. That's right, but you don't always use it so maybe it shouldn't always be there. Maybe it could appear next to the sheet selection when you have sheets out of range, and make the X editable (in sheet X of #) Sum: I think this shows the value of the selected rectangle, which you can see inside the rectangle, no need for it either. You can change the function applied to the current selection (sum by default): just right click on the status bar. Very useful, too. So, I'd ask to keep that. I don't use Calc much, you are probably right. The mouse is evil :) Many people use the dialogs to change that. Having the information *before* calling the dialog is useful. You are right, but maybe the info could be inside the dialog, have something like original: x New: x The person looking at the presentation is not always the creator. There, I can see the template chosen by the author, then decide to change to something else. Yeah, but it's not very common, and even in that situation, not that useful either, if we don't remove it, we should at least hide it in View. What i say is that we should hide all the might want and might need stuff, and make it possible to add it in case someone needs it. That way we make it simple and pretty for the average user, but powerful enough for professionals. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Jean, Albert, That you for explaining this jean. I see how this would be useful. For example: You always use the signature icon in the status bar, but we hid it away, all you would have to do is go to ViewStatus Bar and check Digital Signature from now on, every time you open that program, you will have the icon on your status bar. Better idea. Make the status bar contextual, and only show the digital signature when there is one. There is no point in showing that there is no signature with a blank. Just don't show it. And when there is one it would appear. How does that sound Jean? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Le 25/04/2012 21:03, Andrew Pullins a écrit : Better idea. Make the status bar contextual, and only show the digital signature when there is one. There is no point in showing that there is no signature with a blank. Just don't show it. And when there is one it would appear. How does that sound Jean? That option is ok for me. The point is to make the information visible when a document is signed, without any user interaction. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi, Le 15/04/2012 22:38, Andrew Pullins a écrit : *For writer* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/1e/New-libreoffice-writer-statusbar-v1.png [...] Language... why do we need to tell people what language they are in. there has never been a moment in my life where I had forgotten what language I speak and read. i guess this could be useful for people who speak different languages, but then again it does not take that long to recognize that the words on the screen are not English. when I see Spanish, German, or Swedish I do not wander if it is English. now I would not see the difference between German and Swedish, but I could see that it is definitely not English. so why is it even there? Nope. I can write EN text with the FR language defined for character formatting. The language (format) information is thus very important. I'd like to keep that in the status bar. Very useful for people writing multi-language documents (translators, international organizations members). *For draw/impress* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/33/Current_LO_draw_impress_status_bar.png object description. is this a description like shape or line. if so do we need this. Yes: disambiguation. -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hello, Can we get off the language thing, I thought I already stated that I understand how people would need it with the first responce. It can stay, but can we abbreviate it so it takes up less space? Now that we are past the language section can we discuss the feast of my email? Digital signature, document modification, insertion mode, selection mode, and all the other sections I talked about. Are these sections and others still useful, should they be there, should they be removed or placed in other locations? Cheers, Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi Andrew, *, Andrew Pullins wrote (15-04-12 22:38) *For writer* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/1e/New-libreoffice-writer-statusbar-v1.png Nice look! Remark: not all items in the group Page are of the same kind. Page number and style is about content, The rest for the view of the document. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi Andrew, (Lots of IMHO's ahead, so beware.) I use it sometimes, it's useful when you are translating or creating a document in multiple languages (like instruction manuals) it sets the auto-correct to the language you are currently using, which is useful. It might not be used by most users who just have it in the language they always use, i guess you could also hide it, but i think the status bar would look a bit empty without it. Language switching is useful indeed, mostly for spell-checking. It helps an alot when you wonder why your entire German text has red underlines and then you notice: correction is still set to English. I think that its too cluttered with things that are do not need to be there. not sure what the document signature is. document notification should be shown in the title of the document with an * . My opinion as well. I just played with the insertion mode and selection mode. I now understand what insertion its referring to. you know the mode that replaces the text in front of the insertion point (the blinking line behind the text). If you click on this it will change. does anyone even use this mode any more. I would argue that today, nobody consciously/voluntarily uses Overwrite mode any more. However, we need to nix the mode completely before doing away with this indicator as it is actually quite common that people accidentally trigger Overwrite mode by pressing the Ins key on the keyboard. if you click on the selection mode it changes... well the selection mode. STD is standard mode. EXT seems to make it so that you can not select text, which I do not know why anyone would want to not be able to select text. Using EXT, you can select the text that is located between the text cursor position and the position of the mouse pointer. (EXTend the selection from text cursor to mouse pointer or something like that.) ADD will allow you to select another section of text, just like holding control and selecting more text. and then BLK selects a block of text... how is that useful. fill your screen with text, change the selection mode (the one that is set to STD) and click drag something in the middle of the screen. can anyone tell me where this would be useful. I have no idea, I personally never needed it. I believe it's probably useful for a minority of users. The upside is that it doesn't seem easy to trigger these modes by accidentally pressing something. So removing the indicator should not be a problem. and finally page view should be under the view menu. Should be, yes. Instead, we currently have the View Zoom box which you can alternatively use. The View Zoom box definitely needs to go away sooner rather than later and be replaced by a menu. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Cor Nouws wrote (16-04-12 23:01) I really would advise to involve UX, users experience here. For sure they have thought on the features that may need better / redesign. Rationale: UX is about functions and how people interoperate with them Design is about interoperating and the visual appearance of that. So closely related. Yet not at all the same. There are some ideas in the status bar design that from UX point of view could use some attention, IMO. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
2012/4/19 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Cor Nouws wrote (16-04-12 23:01) I really would advise to involve UX, users experience here. For sure they have thought on the features that may need better / redesign. Rationale: UX is about functions and how people interoperate with them Design is about interoperating and the visual appearance of that. So closely related. Yet not at all the same. There are some ideas in the status bar design that from UX point of view could use some attention, IMO. The LibreOffice Design team concerns itself with both design and UX. There is no separate UX team. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Mirek M. wrote (19-04-12 21:16) The LibreOffice Design team concerns itself with both design and UX. There is no separate UX team. Ah.. so what does this list do libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hi Andrew, all, Andrew Pullins wrote (15-04-12 22:38) im taking all this from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking *For writer* https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/1e/New-libreoffice-writer-statusbar-v1.png I really would advise to involve UX, users experience here. For sure they have thought on the features that may need better / redesign. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Þann sun 15.apr 2012 20:38, skrifaði Andrew Pullins: Hello im taking all this from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking --- Language... why do we need to tell people what language they are in. there has never been a moment in my life where I had forgotten what language I speak and read. i guess this could be useful for people who speak different languages, but then again it does not take that long to recognize that the words on the screen are not English. when I see Spanish, German, or Swedish I do not wander if it is English. now I would not see the difference between German and Swedish, but I could see that it is definitely not English. so why is it even there? Imagine this (a real-life example): A french professional translator works in Moscow; editing documents with sections in various languages and alphabets ranging from Ukrainian and Russian to Dutch and French, using his good'ol French keyboard in an Russian OS, having LibreOffice UI alternatively in French and English. In a case like this you'd really appreciate see right away which language you're editing (after disruption by phone or whatever). Such a person is also a likely candidate to beg for a nice word/character/line count. Regards, Sveinn í Felli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
WOW, if that is a a normal situation over there then yall is crazy. no I had a feeling that someone would say something like that but I wrote it anyway. I can see how having the language would be good for some. do you have any comments on anything else. cheers, Andrew On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote: Þann sun 15.apr 2012 20:38, skrifaði Andrew Pullins: Hello im taking all this from https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Design/**Writer_Status_Bar_Remakinghttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Writer_Status_Bar_Remaking --- Language... why do we need to tell people what language they are in. there has never been a moment in my life where I had forgotten what language I speak and read. i guess this could be useful for people who speak different languages, but then again it does not take that long to recognize that the words on the screen are not English. when I see Spanish, German, or Swedish I do not wander if it is English. now I would not see the difference between German and Swedish, but I could see that it is definitely not English. so why is it even there? Imagine this (a real-life example): A french professional translator works in Moscow; editing documents with sections in various languages and alphabets ranging from Ukrainian and Russian to Dutch and French, using his good'ol French keyboard in an Russian OS, having LibreOffice UI alternatively in French and English. In a case like this you'd really appreciate see right away which language you're editing (after disruption by phone or whatever). Such a person is also a likely candidate to beg for a nice word/character/line count. Regards, Sveinn í Felli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.**libreoffice.orgdesign%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] questions about the status bar
Hello I use it sometimes, it's useful when you are translating or creating a document in multiple languages (like instruction manuals) it sets the auto-correct to the language you are currently using, which is useful. It might not be used by most users who just have it in the language they always use, i guess you could also hide it, but i think the status bar would look a bit empty without it. I think that its too cluttered with things that are do not need to be there. not sure what the document signature is. document notification should be shown in the title of the document with an * . I just played with the insertion mode and selection mode. I now understand what insertion its referring to. you know the mode that replaces the text in front of the insertion point (the blinking line behind the text). If you click on this it will change. does anyone even use this mode any more. if you click on the selection mode it changes... well the selection mode. STD is standard mode. EXT seems to make it so that you can not select text, which I do not know why anyone would want to not be able to select text. ADD will allow you to select another section of text, just like holding control and selecting more text. and then BLK selects a block of text... how is that useful. fill your screen with text, change the selection mode (the one that is set to STD) and click drag something in the middle of the screen. can anyone tell me where this would be useful. and finally page view should be under the view menu. cheers, Andrew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
