Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2009 03:19 PM, Kris Thomsen wrote: Hi Luya, I don't understand your message, can you please explain to me? :-) If you look at 16x16 utilites-terminal on todo list[1] from Echo, you will notice the similarity. Of coure Echo-perspective it is incomplete at moment. Ref: - - [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://www.thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkp9H5gACgkQaS6HaNQHFTnB8wCeJV6gqIQ8yRT+uLKVUUlUt3mU of0AmwcFj6N3WNzfO+YCpdgE/BnsUlgB =9wlt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:57 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: snip * Should be provided in a 16 x 9 aspect ratio 16x9 not ideal unless it's high resolution enough. It's easier compositoinally to go to a 16:9 ratio with a 4:3 ratio image rather than vice-versa. Depends on the design, sometimes it's easier to go from 16:10 (yes, computer screens are 16:10, not 16:9) to 4:3. I'd therefore encourage submission of both wide and standard variants. I agree with all your other comments. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 23:47 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: If you look at 16x16 utilites-terminal on todo list[1] from Echo, you will notice the similarity. Of coure Echo-perspective it is incomplete at moment. We can avoid that by making the utilities-terminal be more terminal-like by making the screen colour black, which is the usual terminal color and color used for utilities-terminal in upstream icon themes. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
Hey, Some comments inline and a new draft attached. 2009/8/7 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: All submissions or contributions: [ snip ] This section is great, no comments - well one suggestion, we could call out good sources of appropriately-licensed image sources. Subject matter: * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or libelous - No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter - No images of weapons or violent imagery - No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery * Must not contain material that promotes bigotry, racism, hatred or harm against any group or individual or promotes discrimination based on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation or age * Must not contain material that is unlawful, in violation of or contrary to the laws or regulations in the jurisdiction where the work is created * No religious, political, or nationalist imagery (including flags) * No images of hats, particularly fedoras. This is a matter of respect for our primary sponsor, Red Hat, Inc., and is not negotiable. Of course, passive appearance of hats, such as those upon heads in a crowd, may be allowed. * No version numbers. End users might prefer to continue to use an older theme, or use the latest theme in their older version of Fedora. To enable that choice, do not use any version numbers within the Fedora artwork. this section is great up to here * No text. Text should not be used in the backgrounds because the artwork is intended for a global audience and to be reused by derivative distributions. This is reasonable, but artistic use of type is permitted and should probably be specifically called out here. That's fine. This part was copied mostly from the current guidelines. * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or fictional) Why is this? What about characters? The human figure? The human figure abstracted? That would be fine as long as the character doesn't convey a message or ideology, give the appearance of preferring a specific region, culture, race, politics, religion, etc. We should make this more clear I suppose. An invented character without any of those attributes should be fine. * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals The latter part I understand, but I'm unsure of the concern with images of pets. E.g., a horse could be considered a pet and Samuele submitted some very nice imagery with horses... e.g. if we're just trying to avoid the flickr-zomg-look-at-my-cat syndrome we should just call it out... but we've never had a problem with people submitting pictures of their cat. If the animal is in a domestic or beast of burden setting I think we are best to avoid it. If the horse does not appear with a saddle, reins, in a corral, etc it can be assumed to be a wild horse - and that would be fine. This is a very subtle issue. This goes to one of the experience tones (adjective list) I mention below. unfettered Technical requirements: * Must use a format that can be read by software available in Fedora Package Collection Preferred image formats include SVG and PNG. Master files, which may be further edited, should be maintained in non-lossy formats. Preserving vector graphics, raster layers, and channels is important for such materials. I would word it slightly differently, maybe break it out into proposals vs. source files. Source files are required. Proposals should be in PNG irregardless of whether or not it's vector or bitmap. Source files must be SVG for vector format submissions and XCF or compressed XCF (xcf.bz2 or xcf.gz). Sure sounds ok, except let's say regardless there. This part was mostly copied from the current guidelines. We also require that any source images, brushes, textures, etc. used in the design must be cited individually, referenced properly (download site, author, license), and be under a license compatible with CC-BY-SA. Sure, sounds fine too. * Originals for landscape formats must be a minimum of 1600 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high The larger the better. Photographic submissions should be made at the highest resolution the camera is capable of. I think we need to require higher resolution. But then again I'm not sure what you're considering 'original.' I'm considering the submission. I don't think you can make requirements for source images just because someone might only use part of a We support up to 2048x1536 for standard resolution, 1920x1200 for wide, but those are single-screen too, what about dual... so you see it becomes a bit of a slippery slope I think when trying to dictate a minimum resolution. Sure I was being a bit conservative. Let's
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
2009/8/8 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 23:47 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: If you look at 16x16 utilites-terminal on todo list[1] from Echo, you will notice the similarity. Of coure Echo-perspective it is incomplete at moment. We can avoid that by making the utilities-terminal be more terminal-like by making the screen colour black, which is the usual terminal color and color used for utilities-terminal in upstream icon themes. Exactly. I actually don't like the blue terminal - I think it will look better in Black anyway (more stylish). Is there exact guidelines defined to Echo Perspective or should the problems be worked out as they come? F.ex. when do we use the typical-Echo white outline? (I like this outline :-) ) Martin ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
Maybe is to late ... http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/apuo7aaipib4w9ual8lq.jpg http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/aucvixjjfecgdzximyp2.jpg ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
awesome idea!!! I think is no late at all!!! 2009/8/8 Cata catalinf...@gmail.com: Maybe is to late ... http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/apuo7aaipib4w9ual8lq.jpg http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/aucvixjjfecgdzximyp2.jpg ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
Thank you ! I use your concept art from last wallpaper and this is result . ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:52 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote: Hi ;) Thanks Nicu, glad to be here :) Martin, I have moved the icons like you said, I have worked a bit on the shadow on 22x22 and changed the 32x32 frame - it's better now :D Just refresh the images from before. I will now take a look at some more detailed icons in the big sizes. So, I've checked the SVG right now [1] and the 256x256 is still a little too high (perhaps I've sent you a wrong offset). Move it another 5px lower. Other than that the icon now seems to be fully prepared (even technically) for push to git. I suggest you now apply for the 'gitecho-icon-theme' in FAS [2] and after I'll approve you, I'll tell you the steps how to upload the icon. Oh and a tiny detail -- make the shadow in 22x22 wider so that it spans under whole icon. Martin References: [1] http://code-geek.baah.dk/Echo/user-desktop-kt.svg [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
could you send me the .blend ? I'll like to try some ideas :D 2009/8/8 Cata catalinf...@gmail.com: Hi ! Yes is on blender 3D , i see the wallpaper of tatica and i thinking lets rock with this ideea . Not very complex scene because on last weeks = lot of work . I will go on 9 aug and maybe 10 aug. with some problems . Send me mails and i will send back feedback . 2009/8/8 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Hi Cata! On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 21:16 +0300, Cata wrote: Maybe is to late ... Like María and Martin already said, this is fine because you're iterating on a concept that's already been proposed. http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/apuo7aaipib4w9ual8lq.jpg http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/aucvixjjfecgdzximyp2.jpg __ These are fantastic! I've a bunch of suggestions but I'm on my way out the door, so I'll send another mail later. Did you do these in Blender? ~m ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org - tutorials http://tv.free-tutorials.org - video tutorials http://catalinfest.xhost.ro - stuff http://python-catalin.blogspot.com - my python blog http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com - my pygame blog ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
2009/8/8 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:52 +0200, Kris Thomsen wrote: Hi ;) Thanks Nicu, glad to be here :) Martin, I have moved the icons like you said, I have worked a bit on the shadow on 22x22 and changed the 32x32 frame - it's better now :D Just refresh the images from before. I will now take a look at some more detailed icons in the big sizes. So, I've checked the SVG right now [1] and the 256x256 is still a little too high (perhaps I've sent you a wrong offset). Move it another 5px lower. Other than that the icon now seems to be fully prepared (even technically) for push to git. I suggest you now apply for the 'gitecho-icon-theme' in FAS [2] and after I'll approve you, I'll tell you the steps how to upload the icon. Oh and a tiny detail -- make the shadow in 22x22 wider so that it spans under whole icon. I have moved it down 5 px again (where should it be? Just to know it another time :D ). I can't make the shadow on 22x22 wider - it will look cutted of, because I have made the icon align with the canvas-border - try for yourself, you will see what I mean. I have applyed for the FAS-group :-) // Kris Martin References: [1] http://code-geek.baah.dk/Echo/user-desktop-kt.svg [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
Have you my .blend file ? 2009/8/8 Cata catalinf...@gmail.com 2009/8/8 María Leandro tat...@fedoraproject.org could you send me the .blend ? I'll like to try some ideas :D 2009/8/8 Cata catalinf...@gmail.com: Hi ! Yes is on blender 3D , i see the wallpaper of tatica and i thinking lets rock with this ideea . Not very complex scene because on last weeks = lot of work . I will go on 9 aug and maybe 10 aug. with some problems . Send me mails and i will send back feedback . 2009/8/8 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Hi Cata! On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 21:16 +0300, Cata wrote: Maybe is to late ... Like María and Martin already said, this is fine because you're iterating on a concept that's already been proposed. http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/apuo7aaipib4w9ual8lq.jpg http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/aucvixjjfecgdzximyp2.jpg __ These are fantastic! I've a bunch of suggestions but I'm on my way out the door, so I'll send another mail later. Did you do these in Blender? ~m ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org - tutorials http://tv.free-tutorials.org - video tutorials http://catalinfest.xhost.ro - stuff http://python-catalin.blogspot.com - my python blog http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com - my pygame blog ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org - tutorials http://tv.free-tutorials.org - video tutorials http://catalinfest.xhost.ro - stuff http://python-catalin.blogspot.com - my python blog http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com - my pygame blog -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org - tutorials http://tv.free-tutorials.org - video tutorials http://catalinfest.xhost.ro - stuff http://python-catalin.blogspot.com - my python blog http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com - my pygame blog ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Kris Thomsen lakris...@gmail.com wrote: I have applyed for the FAS-group :-) You are now approved git-echo-icon-theme member. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Echo Perspective] Presentation and user-desktop
2009/8/8 Luya Tshimbalanga tshim...@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Kris Thomsen lakris...@gmail.com wrote: I have applyed for the FAS-group :-) You are now approved git-echo-icon-theme member. I'm honoured ;) Thanks. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 23:49 +0300, Cata wrote: Have you my .blend file ? Well, the previous mail definitely had a .blend attachment, so I suppose it was delivered safely (cannot test though as I don't have blender installed). However the mail would be easier to follow, had you deleted most of the quotes and just had written something along the 'here you are (see attachment)' lines ;-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [F12 Artwork] Final Wallpaper Concept
http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/aucvixjjfecgdzximyp2.jpg The second wallpaper has a better perspective and combine very well the mosaic idea with architecture forms. -- Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.char...@gmail.com Linux User #477062 ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
