Re: [Design-team] Fedora Branding Fonts
В Втр, 06/07/2010 в 18:15 -0400, Máirín Duffy пишет: I sent an email to Johan Aakerlund, the creator of Comfortaa, this evening. The font is CC-BY-ND, which is not acceptable for inclusion in Fedora. I asked him to consider OFL, CC-BY, or CC-BY-SA. Here's hoping :) Fingers crossed. -- Best regards, Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shnurapet shnurapet at fedoraproject.org, GPG: 00217306 ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] wallpaper for artwork
I would get out this stuff seam to be a crystal... They look like the picture http://www.cimec.ro/p/Clasate/STN_7300600_71-17.jpg I will try something like : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OIzeLNXwbpI/SlDVyfBvpTI/ACA/NT06b5T-Zmk/S259/cristal+apa.bmp Maybe I exaggerate but it seems to me that we need something more fluid as a game of lights that would express the spirit of the sums ... as a sum of spirits gather to generate a lot of different elements but still similar. Similar in form but especially dynamic. As great souls in motion, as a metropolitan network full of ideas and actions, as may dynamic ocean dynamics autumn leaves ... In conclusion something brighter and more dynamic ... Maybe I should try to turn them into something like Contribute a better translation Maybe not very appropriate example, but I saw something similar: http://www.vistawallpapers.in/images/wallpapers/Win%20Vista_1024x768-535675.jpeg 2010/7/7 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro: On 07/07/2010 09:28 AM, kanza aman wrote: hey everybody...how about it ??? In my opinion you have too much contrast, going to a very dark area to a very bright area. And IMO the edges of those curves are way to sharp. From a compositional point of view, you are a bit off from the rule of thirds. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 14 Concept Decision
On 07/07/2010 12:16 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: I double- and triple-counted our votes today - each voter picked their top 3 concepts - and the winner is Kyle Baker's concept for Fedora 14 with 9 votes. So I guess you are also going to make this announcement in a blog post, for the larger community to see. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] wallpaper for artwork
2) The winning Fedora 14 default wallpaper concept is Kyle Baker's concept, which is meant to depict many lines coming together to form a solid whole. @Kyle try to put one sun on that whole use some glass material ... I would do this but I don't have hardware to rendering it. 2010/7/7 Cata catalinf...@gmail.com: I would get out this stuff seam to be a crystal... They look like the picture http://www.cimec.ro/p/Clasate/STN_7300600_71-17.jpg I will try something like : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OIzeLNXwbpI/SlDVyfBvpTI/ACA/NT06b5T-Zmk/S259/cristal+apa.bmp Maybe I exaggerate but it seems to me that we need something more fluid as a game of lights that would express the spirit of the sums ... as a sum of spirits gather to generate a lot of different elements but still similar. Similar in form but especially dynamic. As great souls in motion, as a metropolitan network full of ideas and actions, as may dynamic ocean dynamics autumn leaves ... In conclusion something brighter and more dynamic ... Maybe I should try to turn them into something like Contribute a better translation Maybe not very appropriate example, but I saw something similar: http://www.vistawallpapers.in/images/wallpapers/Win%20Vista_1024x768-535675.jpeg 2010/7/7 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro: On 07/07/2010 09:28 AM, kanza aman wrote: hey everybody...how about it ??? In my opinion you have too much contrast, going to a very dark area to a very bright area. And IMO the edges of those curves are way to sharp. From a compositional point of view, you are a bit off from the rule of thirds. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- My sites: http://catalin-festila.blogspot.com -about me http://tv.free-tutorials.org - video tutorials http://python-catalin.blogspot.com - my python blog ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] 06 Jul 2010 Design team meeting summary
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:49 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: We could potentially change the Fedora logotype to the FLOSS titling font we choose, but that will need to involve Red Hat approval as the trademark is owned by Red Hat. Just something to consider. Hi Mo, personally I don't consider this part necessary. Usually it is desirable not to mess with the logotype (dilluting it by creating subbrands, etc...). I don't see an immediate need to have the actual logotype set in a Freely licensed font. cheers -- Jakub Steiner jstei...@redhat.com http://jimmac.musichall.cz ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design Spin bugs
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:48:11AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 07/07/2010 02:42 AM, Chris Jones wrote: I hate selinux with a passion. And (also) running Ubuntu that has no selinux is a joy for myself. I am not saying that it doesn't serve its intended purpose, but is it really necessary to be included in the Design Spin? I think not. Disabling SELinux on my desktop is one of the first things I do after a fresh install, *but* I pretty much know what I am doing there, I would *never* recommend that to a newbie or non-security conscious user (as the designers are presumed to be). So we must have SELinux installed and active by default. I wanted to correct a misconception about the statistics for SELinux. According to smolts.org[1], almost 70% of systems reporting to Smolt have SELinux enabled, and most of these have SELinux in enforcing mode. I think these changes are due to both the excellent maintenance of policy by Dan Walsh and others, and also more effective communication about the benefits of SELinux. * * * [1] http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] 06 Jul 2010 Design team meeting summary
Hi Jakub, On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 10:39 +0200, Jakub Steiner wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:49 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: We could potentially change the Fedora logotype to the FLOSS titling font we choose, but that will need to involve Red Hat approval as the trademark is owned by Red Hat. Just something to consider. Hi Mo, personally I don't consider this part necessary. Usually it is desirable not to mess with the logotype (dilluting it by creating subbrands, etc...). I don't see an immediate need to have the actual logotype set in a Freely licensed font. I don't think we want to mess with the logotype, but we'd like it to use font we can use without issues _anywhere else_, so ideally we'd switch the fedora logotype font to something FLOSS with good latin glyphs coverage. What we're doing now is matching the logotype font with some other that looks similar, which is suboptimal... Btw. welcome to Red Hat and Fedora :) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design Spin bugs
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:42 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:48:11AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: On 07/07/2010 02:42 AM, Chris Jones wrote: I hate selinux with a passion. And (also) running Ubuntu that has no selinux is a joy for myself. I am not saying that it doesn't serve its intended purpose, but is it really necessary to be included in the Design Spin? I think not. Disabling SELinux on my desktop is one of the first things I do after a fresh install, *but* I pretty much know what I am doing there, I would *never* recommend that to a newbie or non-security conscious user (as the designers are presumed to be). So we must have SELinux installed and active by default. I wanted to correct a misconception about the statistics for SELinux. According to smolts.org[1], almost 70% of systems reporting to Smolt have SELinux enabled, and most of these have SELinux in enforcing mode. I think these changes are due to both the excellent maintenance of policy by Dan Walsh and others, and also more effective communication about the benefits of SELinux. I'd second that. I remember some years ago SELinux on desktop was practically unusable -- lots of problems, applications stopping to work because of it -- but now, I have SELinux turned on in enforcing mode and everything works without issues. One thing that bugs me though, is that the troubleshoot applet is slow like hell (and I still have some wrongly-labeled directories from the olden times which I slowly relabel anytime a SELinux denial pops up...) :-D Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design Spin bugs
On 07/07/2010 03:55 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:42 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:48:11AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: I would *never* recommend that to a newbie or non-security conscious user (as the designers are presumed to be). So we must have SELinux installed and active by default. I think these changes are due to both the excellent maintenance of policy by Dan Walsh and others, and also more effective communication about the benefits of SELinux. I'd second that. I remember some years ago SELinux on desktop was practically unusable -- lots of problems, applications stopping to work because of it -- but now, I have SELinux turned on in enforcing mode and everything works without issues. One thing that bugs me though, is that the troubleshoot applet is slow like hell (and I still have some wrongly-labeled directories from the olden times which I slowly relabel anytime a SELinux denial pops up...) :-D So we have an agreement SELinux must stay on the spin. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design Spin bugs
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: On 07/07/2010 03:55 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:42 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:48:11AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: I would *never* recommend that to a newbie or non-security conscious user (as the designers are presumed to be). So we must have SELinux installed and active by default. I think these changes are due to both the excellent maintenance of policy by Dan Walsh and others, and also more effective communication about the benefits of SELinux. I'd second that. I remember some years ago SELinux on desktop was practically unusable -- lots of problems, applications stopping to work because of it -- but now, I have SELinux turned on in enforcing mode and everything works without issues. One thing that bugs me though, is that the troubleshoot applet is slow like hell (and I still have some wrongly-labeled directories from the olden times which I slowly relabel anytime a SELinux denial pops up...) :-D So we have an agreement SELinux must stay on the spin. Fedora Community supports SELinux to be default on installations... We are sticking with the way the rest of the community is working :) SELinux stays on the spin :) ~π -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pier...@papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] 06 Jul 2010 Design team meeting summary
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 14:50 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: personally I don't consider this part necessary. Usually it is desirable not to mess with the logotype (dilluting it by creating subbrands, etc...). I don't see an immediate need to have the actual logotype set in a Freely licensed font. I don't think we want to mess with the logotype, but we'd like it to use font we can use without issues _anywhere else_, so ideally we'd switch the fedora logotype font to something FLOSS with good latin glyphs coverage. What we're doing now is matching the logotype font with some other that looks similar, which is suboptimal... Btw. welcome to Red Hat and Fedora :) Thanks Martin! I very much see the need to have a headline Fedora font which can be freely distributed and improved. In fact, this need drove me to create 5th Leg* for openSUSE to replace the awesome Cholla which sadly didn't have a very permissive license. But just like openSUSE didn't have to have the actual logo recreated based on the new type, I don't think Fedora needs to do so either. I really hope Johan will be willing to relicense Comfortaa, it would be quite a time saver. I would love to work on making this work better as a screen font as well (in terms of weight/spacing, not hinting). Fedora would benefit for having this used as a default WM font. * http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=555 -- Jakub Steiner jstei...@redhat.com http://jimmac.musichall.cz ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
