Re: [Design-team] Font comparison

2010-07-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
BTW, latest Droid Sans, which should be available in F14, has support
for the following scripts :

aa ab af an ar ast av ay az-ir ba be bg bi bin br bs bua ca ce ch chm co
crh cs csb cu cv cy da de el en eo es et eu fa fi fil fj fo fr fur fy gd
gl gn gv he ho hr hsb ht hu ia id ie ig ik io is it ja jv kaa ki kj kk
kl ko ks ku-tr kum kv kwm ky la lah lb lez lg li lt lv mg mh mk mn-mn ms
mt na nb nds ng nl nn no nr nso ny oc om os pa-pk pap-an pap-aw pl pt rm
rn ru rw sah sc se sel sg sh sk sl sma smj smn sn so sq sr ss st su sv
sw tg th tk tl tn tr ts tt ty tyv ug uk ur uz vo vot wa wen wo xh yap yi
za zh-cn zh-sg zh-tw zu

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Re: [Design-team] Fedora Branding Fonts

2010-07-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi,

On this list, Droid is a free font, Quicksand has no real licence (so no
clear legal status) and the others are not FLOSS fonts. So if you wan to
stay within the Fedora project goals, Droid is your only choice (which
sucks for me as I am behind my package maintenance schedule in Fedora)

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Re: [Design-team] Fedora Branding Fonts

2010-07-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 02 juillet 2010 à 15:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy a écrit :
  accents seem to work.
 
 If I write 'Máirín' in MgOpen Modata, the á and í print out, but not in
 the MgOpen Modata letterforms. Instead the font system falls back to
 DejaVu (I believe, could be another fallback font but looks like DejaVu
 to me).

You can easily test the language coverage of a font file using the
command:

FC_DEBUG=256 fc-query filename

It will print all sorts of information, including a list of ISO 639
language codes followed by the number of associated missing codepoints
in the font file. For example:

aa(10) ab(90) af(17) ak(21) am(264) an(14) ar(36) as(64) ast(14) av(67) 
ay(8) { 00c4 00cf 00d1 00dc 00e4 00ef 00f1 00fc }
az-az(14) az-ir(40) ba(82) be(68) ber-dz(18) ber-ma(32) bg(60) 
…
de(7) { 00c4 00d6 00dc 00df 00e4 00f6 00fc }
dv(49) dz(95) ee(47) el(0) en(20) eo(12) es(14) et(12)
…

If the number is zero (el(0)) the font file contains all the bits needed
to write the associated language (Greek, not surprizing since Modata is
a Greek font), if it is non-zero it is missing this number of
codepoints, if it is non-zero and less than ten fc-query will print the
list of missing codepoints after the language number :
ay(8) { 00c4 00cf 00d1 00dc 00e4 00ef 00f1 00fc }

Of course just because a font includes support for lots of codepoints
does not mean they are all well designed. So it's just a minimal test.

Also don't test just the Normal font, the coverage of Bold/Italic/etc
can ans is often different.

As for Modata, ga(28) means it sucks for Gaelic (Irish)

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Re: [Design-team] F13 Rockets

2010-02-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Lun 8 février 2010 19:43, Hristo Petkov a écrit :
 Hi,
 This black  Violet bi-colour scale is really great.
 It goes with everything.
 (See Attachment)

Please don't. Violet is a dangerous color to use as background, many people do
not react well to it. (touches of violet are ok, violet as dominant color not)

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Re: [Design-team] The philosophy dispute on colour

2010-02-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Mar 9 février 2010 11:57, Hristo Petkov a écrit :

 In my view the most disgusting colour is 'jungle' green (dark green to yellow)
 (but it is on the opposite side of the colour spectrum).

Those with violet are sickness colors. Except green and yellow also exist
naturally in non-sick contexts, while violet does not (except for flowers that
are not that common and are usually violet points, not large surfaces)

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Re: [Design-team] Hello New Member

2009-10-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Ven 23 octobre 2009 09:51, Nicu Buculei a écrit :
 On 10/22/2009 10:22 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 On 10/22/2009 03:17 PM, James Mulroy wrote:
 I have had a look at the ticket system, I see that there is a job to do
 a simple banner for the typographic/font sig, I am working on it now.
 We grant you membership in the team group in the account system upon
 successful completion of the task.

 Cool! Here's some tips to help you work through the task:

 - currently our banners are speced for 200px by 100px. Here's an
 example: http://fedoraproject.org/static/images/banners/f11release.png

 - they typically have rounded corners

 - The font we use is MgOpen Modata. It's available in Fedora with 'yum
 install mgopen-fonts -y'. You can also download it here:
 http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index

 If I understand correctly, he is working on a wiki banner for the Fonts
 SIG - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fonts

This request is for something that can be accepted on 
http://fedoraproject.org/ itself to recruit more font packagers

I suppose that now Fedora community has been launched a banner here would be
nice too
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/images/banners/main-banner_tour-promo.png

I just want the maximum attractive pointers to the SIG on all Fedora web sites 
:p

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Re: [Design-team] f12 wallpaper

2009-09-11 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Ven 11 septembre 2009 15:27, Máirín Duffy a écrit :

 Hi folks,

 We can't be totally satisfied with the current default can we?

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Constantine_Perspective_Mosaico.svg

 Any ideas on how to improve it? Has anyone heard any feedback, good or
 bad? (I've heard nothing)

My main beef with it is that it is not a mosaic, it's a set or very
regular square tiles. Therefore, while the motif is itself pleasant, I
don't really relate it with the release name. An actual antique mosaic is
composed of less regular tesselae, they're not lined up on a grid, and
they compose some motif.

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Re: [Design-team] Fedora Linux Day - Santiago, Chile

2009-09-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mercredi 02 septembre 2009 à 19:08 -0400, Jonathan Barrios a écrit :
 Can u change Ucentux for UCENTUX with font Tahoma.

Please do not use fonts not shipped in Fedora in Fedora artwork or
promotional material. Thanks

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Re: [Design-team] About the Fedora Art Studio Spin

2009-09-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 11:37 +0530, Kushal Das a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 The list of packages still exists, [1], though it needs to be updated.
 I started working on the spin , the initial size is around 1000MB,
 still all fonts need to be put in.
 I need help on verifying the fonts list and adding the missing names to it.

I'd expect an art spin to include all the distribution font packages :p

Otherwise, you should at least install dejavu-*, liberation-*,
google-droid-*, linux-libertine-* and all the sil-*-fonts and
gfs-*-fonts


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Re: [Design-team] Hi again... I'm still trying...

2009-07-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 12 juillet 2009 à 11:47 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen a
écrit :

 To get an idea of the 'mosaic' theme work, I would google search for
 artwork of Constantinople and the Eastern Roman Empire. Sadly blue is
 not a color I found a lot of.. most of it is browns and yellows. The
 usual place one sees blue seems to be in Fish motifs.

Note that bright colours tend to fade with time, so anything old will be
brownish/yellowish unless exceptional circumstances lead to better
conservation or someone spent a lot of time restoring it.

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Re: [Design-team] Hi again... I'm still trying...

2009-07-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 12 juillet 2009 à 21:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
 Le dimanche 12 juillet 2009 à 11:47 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen a
 écrit :
 
  To get an idea of the 'mosaic' theme work, I would google search for
  artwork of Constantinople and the Eastern Roman Empire. Sadly blue is
  not a color I found a lot of.. most of it is browns and yellows. The
  usual place one sees blue seems to be in Fish motifs.
 
 Note that bright colours tend to fade with time, so anything old will be
 brownish/yellowish unless exceptional circumstances lead to better
 conservation or someone spent a lot of time restoring it.

Also Tesselae were made of stone (glass appeared much later in Slavic
orthodox churches), and blue stone is not that common

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Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability

2009-06-03 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Mar 2 juin 2009 16:59, brian hurren a écrit :
 We could do a lighthouse.

Lightouse is nice but would wait for F13 if F12 is named Alexander.

Alexander is a famous name associated to Alexandria
Pharos is a famous name associated to Alexandria

(or something like this)

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