[Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
Hey, So as we discussed on IRC. Attached is a draft of some guidelines for artwork submissions and specifically desktop background contributions. Parts of it are derived from the existing guidelines [1]. I'm hoping this will help us: * Clearly define the legal rules for submitted works * Give some more explicit guidance to potential contributors * Establish some general guidelines to frame the decision making process What do you think? Thanks, Jon [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#Fedora_Artwork_Guidelines All submissions or contributions: * Must be covered by the Contributor License Agreement. We cannot accept contributions from individuals who have not signed the CLA in the Fedora Account System. The CLA allows us to properly license artwork submissions for distribution with Fedora and other Fedora projects. * Must not contain material that violates or infringes another’s rights, including but not limited to privacy, publicity or intellectual property rights, or that constitutes copyright infringement; If your submissions include or derive from artwork created by other people, please make sure the license of the original work you incorporate is compatible with Fedora and that you are not violating any of the provisions of its license. Just because a work is licensed with a Creative Commons license does not mean it is free to use (make sure you provide attribution to artists that license their work with a CC Attribution clause.) * Should have the consent and approval of the author or creator * Are thereby licensed to the public for reuse under CC-BY-SA unless specifically identified as being licensed by another approved liberal open source license. Subject matter: * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or libelous - No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter - No images of weapons or violent imagery - No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery * Must not contain material that promotes bigotry, racism, hatred or harm against any group or individual or promotes discrimination based on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation or age * Must not contain material that is unlawful, in violation of or contrary to the laws or regulations in the jurisdiction where the work is created * No religious, political, or nationalist imagery (including flags) * No images of hats, particularly fedoras. This is a matter of respect for our primary sponsor, Red Hat, Inc., and is not negotiable. Of course, passive appearance of hats, such as those upon heads in a crowd, may be allowed. * No version numbers. End users might prefer to continue to use an older theme, or use the latest theme in their older version of Fedora. To enable that choice, do not use any version numbers within the Fedora artwork. * No text. Text should not be used in the backgrounds because the artwork is intended for a global audience and to be reused by derivative distributions. * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or fictional) * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals Technical requirements: * Must use a format that can be read by software available in Fedora Package Collection Preferred image formats include SVG and PNG. Master files, which may be further edited, should be maintained in non-lossy formats. Preserving vector graphics, raster layers, and channels is important for such materials. * Originals for landscape formats must be a minimum of 1600 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high The larger the better. Photographic submissions should be made at the highest resolution the camera is capable of. * Should be provided in a 16 x 9 aspect ratio * No watermarks, signatures, photographer/creator names, or messages may be included in any part of the work Composition: * Should strive for subtlety and poetry * Avoid high frequency images (http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2009/04/low-frequency-vs-high-frequency.html) - A soft focus is one way to achieve this * As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the "background" of the activity scene. * Fewer details on left side allows for good readability for primary icons on the desktop. - Keep in mind that many users have icons covering the entire desktop view. * Do not compete for the user's attention Specific guidelines. * Default background: * The following adjectives should be used to select an appropriate design: - Fresh - Light - Calm - Clean - Modern - Harmonious - Unfettered - Elegant - Graceful - Hopeful - Delightful * Additional Themes: * May use following categories: - Nature - Landscapes - Cosmos - Scenes - (Region/country specific content) http://en.wikipedia.org
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > > All submissions or contributions: > [ snip ] This section is great, no comments - well one suggestion, we could call out good sources of appropriately-licensed image sources. > Subject matter: > > * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind > > * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, > indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or > libelous >- No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter >- No images of weapons or violent imagery >- No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery > > * Must not contain material that promotes bigotry, racism, hatred or > harm against any group or individual or promotes discrimination based > on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation > or age > > * Must not contain material that is unlawful, in violation of or > contrary to the laws or regulations in the jurisdiction where the work > is created > > * No religious, political, or nationalist imagery (including flags) > > * No images of hats, particularly fedoras. >This is a matter of respect for our primary sponsor, Red Hat, Inc., > and is not negotiable. Of course, passive appearance of hats, such as > those upon heads in a crowd, may be allowed. > > * No version numbers. >End users might prefer to continue to use an older theme, or use > the latest theme in their older version of Fedora. To enable that > choice, do not use any version numbers within the Fedora artwork. this section is great up to here > > * No text. >Text should not be used in the backgrounds because the artwork is > intended for a global audience and to be reused by derivative > distributions. This is reasonable, but artistic use of type is permitted and should probably be specifically called out here. > * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or > fictional) > Why is this? What about characters? The human figure? The human figure abstracted? > * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals The latter part I understand, but I'm unsure of the concern with images of pets. E.g., a horse could be considered a pet and Samuele submitted some very nice imagery with horses... e.g. if we're just trying to avoid the flickr-zomg-look-at-my-cat syndrome we should just call it out... but we've never had a problem with people submitting pictures of their cat. > Technical requirements: > > * Must use a format that can be read by software available in Fedora > Package Collection >Preferred image formats include SVG and PNG. Master files, which > may be further edited, should be maintained in non-lossy formats. > Preserving vector graphics, raster layers, and channels is important > for such materials. I would word it slightly differently, maybe break it out into proposals vs. source files. Source files are required. Proposals should be in PNG irregardless of whether or not it's vector or bitmap. Source files must be SVG for vector format submissions and XCF or compressed XCF (xcf.bz2 or xcf.gz). We also require that any source images, brushes, textures, etc. used in the design must be cited individually, referenced properly (download site, author, license), and be under a license compatible with CC-BY-SA. > * Originals for landscape formats must be a minimum of 1600 pixels > wide and 1200 pixels high >The larger the better. Photographic submissions should be made at > the highest resolution the camera is capable of. I think we need to require higher resolution. But then again I'm not sure what you're considering 'original.' I'm considering the submission. I don't think you can make requirements for source images just because someone might only use part of a We support up to 2048x1536 for standard resolution, 1920x1200 for wide, but those are single-screen too, what about dual... so you see it becomes a bit of a slippery slope I think when trying to dictate a minimum resolution. > * Should be provided in a 16 x 9 aspect ratio 16x9 not ideal unless it's high resolution enough. It's easier compositoinally to go to a 16:9 ratio with a 4:3 ratio image rather than vice-versa. > * No watermarks, signatures, photographer/creator names, or messages > may be included in any part of the work > > > Composition: > > * Should strive for subtlety and poetry I think I know what you're trying to get at with this but I think it's going to confuse a lot of people. I'm not sure how to word it better, though. If you're trying to guide people towards non-explicit / non-obvious interpretations of ideas better to state that openly. > > * Avoid high frequency images > > (http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2009/04/low-frequency-vs-high-frequency.html) > Might be easier to understand to expand on this point a bit more by saying it should not have too much high contrast, and it shouldn't be overly bright or dark ei
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:57 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > > * Should be provided in a 16 x 9 aspect ratio > > 16x9 not ideal unless it's high resolution enough. It's easier > compositoinally to go to a 16:9 ratio with a 4:3 ratio image rather than > vice-versa. Depends on the design, sometimes it's easier to go from 16:10 (yes, computer screens are 16:10, not 16:9) to 4:3. I'd therefore encourage submission of both wide and standard variants. I agree with all your other comments. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
Hey, Some comments inline and a new draft attached. 2009/8/7 Máirín Duffy : > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: > >> >> All submissions or contributions: >> > [ snip ] > This section is great, no comments - well one suggestion, we could call > out good sources of appropriately-licensed image sources. > >> Subject matter: >> >> * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind >> >> * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, >> indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or >> libelous >> - No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter >> - No images of weapons or violent imagery >> - No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery >> >> * Must not contain material that promotes bigotry, racism, hatred or >> harm against any group or individual or promotes discrimination based >> on race, gender, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation >> or age >> >> * Must not contain material that is unlawful, in violation of or >> contrary to the laws or regulations in the jurisdiction where the work >> is created >> >> * No religious, political, or nationalist imagery (including flags) >> >> * No images of hats, particularly fedoras. >> This is a matter of respect for our primary sponsor, Red Hat, Inc., >> and is not negotiable. Of course, passive appearance of hats, such as >> those upon heads in a crowd, may be allowed. >> >> * No version numbers. >> End users might prefer to continue to use an older theme, or use >> the latest theme in their older version of Fedora. To enable that >> choice, do not use any version numbers within the Fedora artwork. > > this section is great up to here >> >> * No text. >> Text should not be used in the backgrounds because the artwork is >> intended for a global audience and to be reused by derivative >> distributions. > > This is reasonable, but artistic use of type is permitted and should > probably be specifically called out here. That's fine. This part was copied mostly from the current guidelines. >> * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or >> fictional) >> > > Why is this? What about characters? The human figure? The human figure > abstracted? That would be fine as long as the character doesn't convey a message or ideology, give the appearance of preferring a specific region, culture, race, politics, religion, etc. We should make this more clear I suppose. An invented character without any of those attributes should be fine. >> * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals > > The latter part I understand, but I'm unsure of the concern with images > of pets. E.g., a horse could be considered a pet and Samuele submitted > some very nice imagery with horses... e.g. if we're just trying to avoid > the flickr-zomg-look-at-my-cat syndrome we should just call it out... > but we've never had a problem with people submitting pictures of their > cat. If the animal is in a domestic or beast of burden setting I think we are best to avoid it. If the horse does not appear with a saddle, reins, in a corral, etc it can be assumed to be a wild horse - and that would be fine. This is a very subtle issue. This goes to one of the "experience tones" (adjective list) I mention below. "unfettered" >> Technical requirements: >> >> * Must use a format that can be read by software available in Fedora >> Package Collection >> Preferred image formats include SVG and PNG. Master files, which >> may be further edited, should be maintained in non-lossy formats. >> Preserving vector graphics, raster layers, and channels is important >> for such materials. > > I would word it slightly differently, maybe break it out into proposals > vs. source files. Source files are required. Proposals should be in PNG > irregardless of whether or not it's vector or bitmap. Source files must > be SVG for vector format submissions and XCF or compressed XCF (xcf.bz2 > or xcf.gz). Sure sounds ok, except let's say "regardless" there. This part was mostly copied from the current guidelines. > We also require that any source images, brushes, textures, etc. used in > the design must be cited individually, referenced properly (download > site, author, license), and be under a license compatible with CC-BY-SA. Sure, sounds fine too. >> * Originals for landscape formats must be a minimum of 1600 pixels >> wide and 1200 pixels high >> The larger the better. Photographic submissions should be made at >> the highest resolution the camera is capable of. > > I think we need to require higher resolution. But then again I'm not > sure what you're considering 'original.' I'm considering the submission. > I don't think you can make requirements for source images just because > someone might only use part of a We support up to 2048x1536 > for standard resolution, 1920x1200 for wide, but those are single-screen > too, what about dual... so you see it becomes
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
On 08/08/2009 05:13 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: > 2009/8/7 Máirín Duffy: >> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: >>> All submissions or contributions: >>> >> [ snip ] >> This section is great, no comments - well one suggestion, we could call >> out good sources of appropriately-licensed image sources. >> >>> Subject matter: >>> >>> * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind >>> >>> * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, >>> indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or >>> libelous >>> - No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter >>> - No images of weapons or violent imagery >>> - No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery No weapons would have ruled out Samuele's Invinxible from F10 (which was very popular until we learned about its licensing problems) and would probably rule out Jayme's Constantine. However, I don't see the sword in Constantine's hand (in Jayme's wallpaper proposal) as a weapon, but as a leadership symbol. >>> * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or >>> fictional) I thought the "no images of people" is due to extra legal troubles (need for signed model release forms and such). I think if the legal steps are followed, then people should be fine. For example I think Ubuntu's "circle of friends" was brillinat for its time: http://media.photobucket.com/image/ubuntu%20%252522circle%20of%20friends%252522/chrispollard/background.jpg Highly controversial, yes, but this was part of what made it brilliant. >> Why is this? What about characters? The human figure? The human figure >> abstracted? > > That would be fine as long as the character doesn't convey a message > or ideology, give the appearance of preferring a specific region, > culture, race, politics, religion, etc. We should make this more > clear I suppose. An invented character without any of those > attributes should be fine. Characters are good: Tatica's "kids" concept is awesome (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154997/). Myself, I had really fun time creating characters for my comic. If Zod was not FC6 but now, I can think of the characters we would play with... >>> * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals >> >> The latter part I understand, but I'm unsure of the concern with images >> of pets. E.g., a horse could be considered a pet and Samuele submitted >> some very nice imagery with horses... e.g. if we're just trying to avoid >> the flickr-zomg-look-at-my-cat syndrome we should just call it out... >> but we've never had a problem with people submitting pictures of their >> cat. > > If the animal is in a domestic or beast of burden setting I think we > are best to avoid it. If the horse does not appear with a saddle, > reins, in a corral, etc it can be assumed to be a wild horse - and > that would be fine. This is a very subtle issue. This goes to one of > the "experience tones" (adjective list) I mention below. "unfettered" Here I was expecting again a legal background: to use photos of someone's pet, you may need signed property release forms. >>> Specific guidelines. >>> >> >> I wouldn't consider these guidelines so much as suggestions or ideas... > > Actually, I do consider them guidelines. I think these should be the > way we focus what is produced and submitted, and also the criteria for > how we judge them. > >>> * Default background: >>>* The following adjectives should be used to select an appropriate >>> design: >>> - Fresh >>> - Light >>> - Calm >>> - Clean >>> - Modern >>> - Harmonious >>> - Unfettered >>> - Elegant >>> - Graceful >>> - Hopeful >>> - Delightful >>> >> >> These seem like great suggestions to get artists into the right mindset >> but I wouldn't consider them exclusive nor all absolutely required. > > This is one of the most important parts of designing an experience > that is consistent and harmonious - and in the right key. > I think we should come up with a relatively short list of experience > "tones" like the above (should have been 12 not 11). Each artwork > submission should strive to exhibit some of these - and we should > judge them based on whether they do and by how the result feels. > > So let's try to come up with how we want Fedora to feel. The above > list is a starting point. The 12 tones of Fedora. I agree about those being suggestions, not a check list. We may want to break the rules from time to time and go with something like "steampunk", which is somewhat the opposite of "modern". Or "fresh" would mean we won't ever use again a moon or an underwater view? Also, some items like "harmonious", "elegant" or "delightful" are so vague and subjective that one can't quantify them. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ __
Re: [Design-team] Wallpapers guidelines draft
Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 08/08/2009 05:13 PM, William Jon McCann wrote: >> 2009/8/7 Máirín Duffy: >>> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:41 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: All submissions or contributions: >>> [ snip ] >>> This section is great, no comments - well one suggestion, we could call >>> out good sources of appropriately-licensed image sources. >>> Subject matter: * Must not contain brand names or trademarks of any kind * Must not contain material that is inappropriate, offensive, indecent, obscene, hateful, tortuous, defamatory, slanderous or libelous - No sexually explicit or provocative subject matter - No images of weapons or violent imagery - No alcohol, smoking, or drug use imagery > > > No weapons would have ruled out Samuele's Invinxible from F10 (which was > very popular until we learned about its licensing problems) and would > probably rule out Jayme's Constantine. > However, I don't see the sword in Constantine's hand (in Jayme's > wallpaper proposal) as a weapon, but as a leadership symbol. Yes it would rule them out. As it should. A leadership symbol to the victorious is a symbol of oppression, conquest, or death to the rest. Again, simply not something we should be associating ourselves with. * Should not contain images of people (contemporary, historical, or fictional) > > I thought the "no images of people" is due to extra legal troubles (need > for signed model release forms and such). I think if the legal steps are > followed, then people should be fine. > > For example I think Ubuntu's "circle of friends" was brillinat for its > time: > http://media.photobucket.com/image/ubuntu%20%252522circle%20of%20friends%252522/chrispollard/background.jpg > > Highly controversial, yes, but this was part of what made it brilliant. That was never used as a default background. I don't think we should be in the Politically Correct people of the world business. We are not Benetton. There is a good rationale for why body parts and people are not a great idea here: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/icons-design.html.en >>> Why is this? What about characters? The human figure? The human figure >>> abstracted? >> >> That would be fine as long as the character doesn't convey a message >> or ideology, give the appearance of preferring a specific region, >> culture, race, politics, religion, etc. We should make this more >> clear I suppose. An invented character without any of those >> attributes should be fine. > > Characters are good: Tatica's "kids" concept is awesome > (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3723154997/). Myself, I had really > fun time creating characters for my comic. If Zod was not FC6 but now, I > can think of the characters we would play with... > * Should not contain images of pets, or captive or mistreated animals >>> >>> The latter part I understand, but I'm unsure of the concern with images >>> of pets. E.g., a horse could be considered a pet and Samuele submitted >>> some very nice imagery with horses... e.g. if we're just trying to avoid >>> the flickr-zomg-look-at-my-cat syndrome we should just call it out... >>> but we've never had a problem with people submitting pictures of their >>> cat. >> >> If the animal is in a domestic or beast of burden setting I think we >> are best to avoid it. If the horse does not appear with a saddle, >> reins, in a corral, etc it can be assumed to be a wild horse - and >> that would be fine. This is a very subtle issue. This goes to one of >> the "experience tones" (adjective list) I mention below. "unfettered" > > Here I was expecting again a legal background: to use photos of > someone's pet, you may need signed property release forms. > Specific guidelines. >>> >>> I wouldn't consider these guidelines so much as suggestions or ideas... >> >> Actually, I do consider them guidelines. I think these should be the >> way we focus what is produced and submitted, and also the criteria for >> how we judge them. >> * Default background: * The following adjectives should be used to select an appropriate design: - Fresh - Light - Calm - Clean - Modern - Harmonious - Unfettered - Elegant - Graceful - Hopeful - Delightful >>> >>> These seem like great suggestions to get artists into the right mindset >>> but I wouldn't consider them exclusive nor all absolutely required. >> >> This is one of the most important parts of designing an experience >> that is consistent and harmonious - and in the right key. >> I think we should come up with a relatively short list of experience >> "tones" like the above (should have been 12 not 11). Each artwork >> submission should strive to exhibit some of these - and we should >> judge them based on whether they do and by how the resu
