Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: >> Heisenberg >> >> -1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg > > In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this > name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug > that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-) I guess the Board has a good geek score :P Cheers from Umbria... G. -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:54:08AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > Quetzalcoatl > > > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. > > But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will > hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. > I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may > give an opportunity for some cool graphics. Thanks, everybody, for your input. I've passed the resulting list, trimmed to eliminate the few names that were obvious problems, to Legal for review: Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Umbria Rugosa Orville Chilon Wallace Cimrman Alexander Stradivari -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:03:07AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> > >> As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" > >> fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first > >> encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool > >> then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.) > > > > I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about > > how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag > > in HTML5). Fun stuff... > > > > -- > > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > Or even a phonetic representation in text :) > > Quet·zal·co·a·tl (kĕt-säl'kō-ät'l) What do you think of having the phonetics being part of some interesting marketing (not the artwork/theme necessarily)? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
Quetzalcoatl You might have some cultural problems if you use this literally (like you could do if you used anything Maori) though it has a really cool style. (I love those block style eagles that look good as a tattoo.) --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Paul W. Frields wrote: From: Paul W. Frields Subject: Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability To: design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:42 AM On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:29:22AM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > Quetzalcoatl > > > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. > > But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will > hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. > I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may > give an opportunity for some cool graphics. > > true, > > but i can still give my opinion about it ;-). I have been in some naming > processes before and I think this does not meet the requirements for a good > name. should we invest time in names that should never make the final > selection. The amount of time required here is very low, so I would say it's well spent. :-) Remember that we're just discussing themeability, not actually asking people to design things yet. Once the community decides on a name, we'll be able to proceed with the step that actually takes considerable time. ;-) As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >> As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" >> fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first >> encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool >> then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.) > > I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about > how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag > in HTML5). Fun stuff... > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ Or even a phonetic representation in text :) Quet·zal·co·a·tl (kĕt-säl'kō-ät'l) Cheers, Clint ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" > fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first > encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool > then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.) I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag in HTML5). Fun stuff... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:29:22AM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > Quetzalcoatl > > > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. > > But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will > hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. > I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may > give an opportunity for some cool graphics. > > true, > > but i can still give my opinion about it ;-). I have been in some naming > processes before and I think this does not meet the requirements for a good > name. should we invest time in names that should never make the final > selection. The amount of time required here is very low, so I would say it's well spent. :-) Remember that we're just discussing themeability, not actually asking people to design things yet. Once the community decides on a name, we'll be able to proceed with the step that actually takes considerable time. ;-) As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On 06/03/2009 11:43 AM, Cata wrote: > What do you think about "TERRA" ? The time to suggest new names passed, we are beyond this step in the process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_12 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
What do you think about "TERRA" ? 2009/6/3 jere samuli perttula > Hi all and greetings from Finland, > here's my take on the list: > > Quetzalcoatl > +1 I really love the old latam culture and I think that a > hard-to-pronounce name could be a fun thing... But it would be great if we > could make it into late 2012 release (which would be F16 if I counted right) > And then the theme could be something about the end of the world and the > beginning of a new era. > http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/apocalypse-watch-q-dog-raking-dividends/ > > Constantine > +1 Ancient Rome. This also brings to my mind the movie with Keanu... > which isn't a bad thing ;) > > Hubble > +1 Space is a good place to make themes from. > > Rugosa > +1 frogs, underwater worlds and flowers are all fun to make themes from. > and the girls overpowering geeks could also be hilarious > > Orville > +1 as Gireesh Sreekantan said: > >Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly > empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher! > although we did this already with Moonshine (F7)... I still like the idea > > Chilon > -1 quite close to Leonidas > > Wallace > +1 Sin City and its darkness with cartoon like effects > > And as Joost just said: > >>Cimrman>-1: too obscure! > >>Alexander > >+1: a lot of options we can exploit > >>Stradivari > > +1: music association to perfection and high quality. > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 22:35, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: >> > Heisenberg >> > >> > -1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg >> >> In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this >> name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug >> that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-) >> >> -- >> Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ >> gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >> http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >> irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug >> ___ >> design-team mailing list >> design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team >> > > > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org | http://tv.free-tutorials.org | http://python-catalin.blogspot.com | http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com | ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
Alexander , good choice :) 2009/6/3 Nicolas Mailhot > > > Le Mar 2 juin 2009 16:59, brian hurren a écrit : > > We could do a lighthouse. > > Lightouse is nice but would wait for F13 if F12 is named Alexander. > > Alexander is a famous name associated to Alexandria > Pharos is a famous name associated to Alexandria > > (or something like this) > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > -- My sites: http://free-tutorials.org | http://tv.free-tutorials.org | http://python-catalin.blogspot.com | http://pygame-catalin.blogspot.com | ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
Le Mar 2 juin 2009 16:59, brian hurren a écrit : > We could do a lighthouse. Lightouse is nice but would wait for F13 if F12 is named Alexander. Alexander is a famous name associated to Alexandria Pharos is a famous name associated to Alexandria (or something like this) -- Nicolas Mailhot ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > Quetzalcoatl > > > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. > > But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will > hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. > I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may > give an opportunity for some cool graphics. true, but i can still give my opinion about it ;-). I have been in some naming processes before and I think this does not meet the requirements for a good name. should we invest time in names that should never make the final selection. ~joost > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > Quetzalcoatl > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may give an opportunity for some cool graphics. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
Hi all and greetings from Finland, here's my take on the list: Quetzalcoatl +1 I really love the old latam culture and I think that a hard-to-pronounce name could be a fun thing... But it would be great if we could make it into late 2012 release (which would be F16 if I counted right) And then the theme could be something about the end of the world and the beginning of a new era. http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/apocalypse-watch-q-dog-raking-dividends/ Constantine +1 Ancient Rome. This also brings to my mind the movie with Keanu... which isn't a bad thing ;) Hubble +1 Space is a good place to make themes from. Rugosa +1 frogs, underwater worlds and flowers are all fun to make themes from. and the girls overpowering geeks could also be hilarious Orville +1 as Gireesh Sreekantan said: >Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher! although we did this already with Moonshine (F7)... I still like the idea Chilon -1 quite close to Leonidas Wallace +1 Sin City and its darkness with cartoon like effects And as Joost just said: >>Cimrman>-1: too obscure! >>Alexander >+1: a lot of options we can exploit >>Stradivari > +1: music association to perfection and high quality. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 22:35, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: > > Heisenberg > > > > -1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg > > In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this > name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug > that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-) > > -- > Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote: > Heisenberg > > -1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi Design Team. > > As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming > process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming > the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the > wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that > passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to > Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the > whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's > list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list > the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the > idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at > least 8 back that pass legal review. > > I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and > simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of > a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring > certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those > events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or > other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building > structure from small things. > > Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to > look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability. > > I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating > in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be > themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there > are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider > leaving those off the list for final review by Legal. > > Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- > before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has > asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your > input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community > voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I > can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours! > > The list: > > Quetzalcoatl -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. > > Constantine +1: good for combining worlds and bridging the gaps > > Hubble +1: could be an interesting concept but what association do we have with Fedora? > > Hippokoon -1: to much the same as Leonidas but still a weaker representation of the same thing. Chilon has the same problem > > Heisenberg -1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg > > Goliath -1: not a winning character. David would be more appropriate and more of a theme like Leonidas! > > Adamastor +1: has good association but a bit obscure... > > Wallace +1: wallace has the same theme as leonidas, fighting against a bigger enemy by combining a scattered group. the basic idea of open source... > > Elvis -1 music names could be good but the king is dead and not in a good way. we could get wrong association. > > Cimrman -1: too obscure! > > Alexander +1: a lot of options we can exploit > > Stradivari +1: music association to perfection and high quality. > > > > -- > Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
> Hubble +1 for me is powerfull, gives an idea of the future, discovery, future > Constantine +1 > Alexander +1 > Stradivari > > Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of > theming? > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org www.twitter.com/jaymeayres http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
2009/6/2 Paul W. Frields > I've received some informative counsel from Legal that we also need to > remove "Elvis" from the running. The revised list, removing > problematic Greek kings and Star Wars heroes, and Goliath which has > too many negative connotations: > > Quetzalcoatl > Constantine > Hubble > Umbria > Heisenberg > Rugosa > Orville > Chilon > Wallace > Cimrman > Alexander > Stradivari > > Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of > theming? > Personally I agree. IMHO all the names in the new list are themeable. > > -- > Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > ___ > design-team mailing list > design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
I've received some informative counsel from Legal that we also need to remove "Elvis" from the running. The revised list, removing problematic Greek kings and Star Wars heroes, and Goliath which has too many negative connotations: Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Umbria Heisenberg Rugosa Orville Chilon Wallace Cimrman Alexander Stradivari Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of theming? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:50:02AM +1930, María Leandro wrote: > I'm not so sure of Elvis (and the other persons named), would be right > to be associated with someone? why won't we try to make us the point > of association for other things? I think it's OK for the name to inspire certain references and themes. We definitely don't want to build the theme around any specific person or depiction of a character. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am biased so I am commenting only on the ones that I liked or disliked ;-) > Heisenberg - -1 : First thing that comes to mind is "Uncertainity". FUD is not good for a name :( > Adamastor - -1 : Greek > Orville Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher! > Chilon Greece again > Wallace I love sin city styles.. > Elvis Fedora wallpaper extras has a good acoustic guitar. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Wallpaper-gothick-acoustic-guitar.jpg > Stradivari same as above - -- Gireesh Sreekantan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkolQ60ACgkQji0bnveIaEYg5gCfZ4e+EqLGBte5gNpsP3RifAwM cssAn393JWwiq3xzevhXcp9rEpOYo/Pn =qVaH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:11:17PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >> Skywalker >>> This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, >>> sorry for the confusion. >>> >> I find your lack of faith disturbing. >> > > Too much time on your hands have you. > > I've got a bad feeling about this. ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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On 06/02/2009 04:58 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 08:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> Constantine > unsure. I can imagine connection to Constantinople but I don't have in > mind any concrete idea that would work good as default wallpaper Architecture -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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I'm not so sure of Elvis (and the other persons named), would be right to be associated with someone? why won't we try to make us the point of association for other things? -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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Stradivari. Sounds like a violin, could do a musical theme, violins, an orchestra, stylized notes ect. in.sour...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability To: "Fedora Design Team" Received: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 1:58 AM On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 08:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi Design Team. > > As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming > process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming > the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the > wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that > passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to > Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the > whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's > list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list > the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the > idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at > least 8 back that pass legal review. > > I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and > simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of > a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring > certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those > events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or > other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building > structure from small things. > > Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to > look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability. > > I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating > in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be > themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there > are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider > leaving those off the list for final review by Legal. > > Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- > before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has > asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your > input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community > voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I > can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours! > > The list: > > Quetzalcoatl +1 should be probably possible to do some simplified or abstract-ized version of this deity. > Constantine unsure. I can imagine connection to Constantinople but I don't have in mind any concrete idea that would work good as default wallpaper > Hubble +1 either stylised satellites or deep-space like view should be plausible > Umbria not sure what this is, wikipedia says it's in Italy, so we could maybe go with some landscape images, but seeing how we failed with that for F11... > Hippokoon unsure. > Heisenberg +1 > Goliath > Rugosa > Adamastor > Orville > Chilon > Wallace > Elvis > Cimrman > Alexander > Stradivari > These are all names of (imaginary) people, it seems... For Cimrman you can go with probably anything (since he invented everything...) also it appeals to me because I am Czech... Stradivari would be probably nice for taking some parts of violins and building the themes around it, similar for Elvis (though with guitar or just music in general). Not sure about the rest... Maybe others would have some ideas on these. Martin -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
>>Hubble +1 A theme with space object, in particular human-made, like satellites. >>Heisenberg +1 Paul's idea is very good for me (particles and atoms..) >>Elvis +1 Music-based theme, wide choose of concepts. >>Stradivari +1 This is my favourite name, with it IMHO we can produce a really fine theme. Look at this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gi/326853730/ It seems to be an "f"...like fedora ;-) -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2009 08:28 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: Goliath >>> > > >>> > > Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? >>> > > Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. >> > >> > +1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme >> > the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the >> > David... > > Oh, that's a very intersting take on this -- like each release slaying > the former one? F12 > F11, and so on. > IMHO, it is very much possible to be misinterpreted as Fedora slaying M$ proprietary or some other open source distro :-( - -- Gireesh Sreekantan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkolQAkACgkQji0bnveIaEbxngCeMTObaMKyA7/h87ncHr6wl7iL o/EAoICYWQo3Rjb9zC7zVgOUvmF5NWDV =bRQF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:22:04AM +1930, María Leandro wrote: > >> > >> > Quetzalcoatl > >> > > +1 , latam culture has a really interesting shapes that we can use: > > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2214700802_f5d1b787d9_o.jpg <== > can we do something like this??? Fedora followers? Hey, that's from the movie "Apocalypto" I'm pretty sure. I'm not so sure about the followers idea, simply because it seems more about a single powerful leader (dictator?) and less about community. But I *LOVE* the ziggurats! > >> > Rugosa > > > +1 > > Maybe we could make a "under sea" theme, using images of ancient and > future species of animals and the fedora bubble as the sun, or use the > bubble and logo like ancient sculptures: > > http://blog.makezine.com/MAKE_689.jpg > http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/uwpicture-12.jpg Oh my gosh, those are awesome! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:53:39AM -0700, brian hurren wrote: > Umbria. Could be shadows? speaking of which I am going to see a solar > eclipse in july...anyone else going to see it? Isn't that "umbra"? Regardless, I love this photo. It makes me wish I could go off and live in a villa and make wine, like Russell Crowe in Ridley Scott's "A Good Year": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UmbriaPanorama.jpg -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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Hi Nicu! On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:57:35PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 06/02/2009 03:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas: Thank you for brainstorming these -- that makes me feel better that there are fewer names where the Design Team would later worry, "This name's awful, we can't theme this!" I can't wait to see what other Designers are thinking too. > > Goliath > > Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? > Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. I think this is a poor name myself, but it met the other criteria; I may have to exert some executive power and pull it from the list before sending to Legal. One could argue I should have done that before. I did a lot of name vetting, and asked for the Board members' assistance, but we still ended up with 82 names under consideration by the Board. Obviously we already missed "Skywalker," and arguably missed one or two others that should have been dropped. Mea culpa! > > Rugosa > > I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and > stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora. Blue roses would be beautiful. http://images.google.com/images?q=blue+roses (warning: may not be CC licensed) > > Adamastor > > I have the same concern as for Hippokoon Yes, the Hippokoon and Adamastor names seem to be difficult to link out as well. > > Orville > > It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout > "Fedora 12 rocks!" Blue guitars would be beautiful. http://images.google.com/images?q=blue+guitar (warning: may not be CC licensed) > > Elvis > > To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is > not dead!" Wait, young sexy Elvis, or old fat Elvis? :-D > > Cimrman > > The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international > audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing. I really liked this name... And I'm sure if this ends up on the list we'll have many votes coming in from the Red Hat offices in Brno, where there are many Fedora contributors! I found the history of the Cimrman character fascinating, and it plays into the way that FLOSS is somewhat subversive, yet entertaining and plays a big part in emergent culture. > > Alexander > > I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for > secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... > something else to try than the same old Greek theme. Someone brought up the helmet as an interesting design element for Leonidas -- maybe that's worth investigating further. I'm not sure how much I dig this name; I think it's not "unique" enough to capture many votes, but the community will decide. > > Stradivari > > Music, classic, fine art. I like this music motif... :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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We could do a lighthouse. symbolizes resolute strength. A guiding beacon. ie fedora is a tower of strength and a guiding light among Linux distros. --- On Wed, 3/6/09, María Leandro wrote: From: María Leandro Subject: Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability To: "Fedora Design Team" Received: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 6:52 PM >> >> > Quetzalcoatl >> +1 , latam culture has a really interesting shapes that we can use: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2214700802_f5d1b787d9_o.jpg <== can we do something like this??? Fedora followers? >> > Rugosa > +1 Maybe we could make a "under sea" theme, using images of ancient and future species of animals and the fedora bubble as the sun, or use the bubble and logo like ancient sculptures: http://blog.makezine.com/MAKE_689.jpg http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/uwpicture-12.jpg >> > Wallace >> >> We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references. +1 I love dark things :D I think I can help here -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:35:45AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > From: Nicu Buculei > > > Goliath > > > > Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? > > Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. > > +1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme > the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the > David... Oh, that's a very intersting take on this -- like each release slaying the former one? F12 > F11, and so on. > > > Rugosa > > +1 I LOVE this one. There are so many beautiful natural patterns we > could use - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haeckel_Tetracoralla.jpg Whoa, that's really cool! > > > Adamastor > > > > I have the same concern as for Hippokoon > > -1 me too, please let's move on from Spartans! I'm detecting an undercurrent of dissatisfaction with the Greek king names. ;-) I think we can settle on removing these from the list we send to Legal. > > > Orville > > > > It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout > > "Fedora 12 rocks!" > > +1 > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Guitar%20Pick/fedoraguitarpicks.png > :) Fedora is where the real rock stars live, IMHO. :-) > > > Alexander > > > > I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for > > secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... > > something else to try than the same old Greek theme. > > +1 I think there's a lot of possibilities here tho. Alexander Graham > Bell, Alexander Method, or maybe the movie Moondance Alexander which > is about ponies which leads to a OMG! ponie...@!#!@$...@$ theme! Lulz. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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Umbria. Could be shadows? speaking of which I am going to see a solar eclipse in july...anyone else going to see it? --- On Wed, 3/6/09, Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Máirín Duffy Subject: Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability To: "Fedora Design Team" Received: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 2:35 AM - Original Message > From: Nicu Buculei > After a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as > "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO. Yes that one was a real stinker... HAWHAWHAW :) > I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas: > > > Quetzalcoatl > > It may be inspired by an asteroid, but I would be tempted to challenge > the cultural taboos and use some pre-Columbian imagery (dragon serpents, > pyramids) +1 I think the pre-Columbian imagery is a great idea. > > > Constantine > > Byzantine... 'nuff said :D > > Hubble > > Stars, galaxies, we can just stole the wallpaper from the Astronomy spin +1 > > Umbria > > I am pretty sure our Italian friends can come with a lot of ideas about > this (I don't think we will feature Star Trek ships). +1 > > > Hippokoon > > I am no big fan of this, going with (less known[1]) Spartan kings will > be pretty much repeating some motifs tried for F11, but is doable. > > [1] even all wikipedia has to say about it is a stub: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocoon -1 I would definitely like to move on from the Spartan idea... > > > Heisenberg > > Paul gave already an idea here +1 > > > Goliath > > Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? > Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. +1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the David... > > > Rugosa +1 I LOVE this one. There are so many beautiful natural patterns we could use - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haeckel_Tetracoralla.jpg > > I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and > stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora. > > > Adamastor > > I have the same concern as for Hippokoon -1 me too, please let's move on from Spartans! > > > Orville > > It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout > "Fedora 12 rocks!" +1 http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Guitar%20Pick/fedoraguitarpicks.png :) > > > Chilon > > Good thing we can shift from Ancient Greek heroes to Swiss castles, I > would try touse this in a theme. +1 > > > Wallace > > We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references. +1 > > Elvis > > To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is > not dead!" +1 We could do something spooky maybe, Elvis' ghost... > > > Cimrman > > The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international > audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing. +1 > > Alexander > > I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for > secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... > something else to try than the same old Greek theme. +1 I think there's a lot of possibilities here tho. Alexander Graham Bell, Alexander Method, or maybe the movie Moondance Alexander which is about ponies which leads to a OMG! ponie...@!#!@$...@$ theme! > > > Stradivari > > Music, classic, fine art. +1 > > Those are some ideas I got "on the spot", with some thinking I am sure > we can find some more, so any choice is doable (but I would not be happy > with repeating an "Ancient Greece" theme). Same here, no repeats! ~m ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
>> >> > Quetzalcoatl >> +1 , latam culture has a really interesting shapes that we can use: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2214700802_f5d1b787d9_o.jpg <== can we do something like this??? Fedora followers? >> > Rugosa > +1 Maybe we could make a "under sea" theme, using images of ancient and future species of animals and the fedora bubble as the sun, or use the bubble and logo like ancient sculptures: http://blog.makezine.com/MAKE_689.jpg http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/uwpicture-12.jpg >> > Wallace >> >> We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references. +1 I love dark things :D I think I can help here -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
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On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:11:17PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > >> Skywalker > > > > This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, > > sorry for the confusion. > > I find your lack of faith disturbing. Too much time on your hands have you. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
- Original Message > From: Nicu Buculei > After a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as > "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO. Yes that one was a real stinker... HAWHAWHAW :) > I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas: > > > Quetzalcoatl > > It may be inspired by an asteroid, but I would be tempted to challenge > the cultural taboos and use some pre-Columbian imagery (dragon serpents, > pyramids) +1 I think the pre-Columbian imagery is a great idea. > > > Constantine > > Byzantine... 'nuff said :D > > Hubble > > Stars, galaxies, we can just stole the wallpaper from the Astronomy spin +1 > > Umbria > > I am pretty sure our Italian friends can come with a lot of ideas about > this (I don't think we will feature Star Trek ships). +1 > > > Hippokoon > > I am no big fan of this, going with (less known[1]) Spartan kings will > be pretty much repeating some motifs tried for F11, but is doable. > > [1] even all wikipedia has to say about it is a stub: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocoon -1 I would definitely like to move on from the Spartan idea... > > > Heisenberg > > Paul gave already an idea here +1 > > > Goliath > > Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? > Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. +1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the David... > > > Rugosa +1 I LOVE this one. There are so many beautiful natural patterns we could use - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haeckel_Tetracoralla.jpg > > I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and > stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora. > > > Adamastor > > I have the same concern as for Hippokoon -1 me too, please let's move on from Spartans! > > > Orville > > It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout > "Fedora 12 rocks!" +1 http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Guitar%20Pick/fedoraguitarpicks.png :) > > > Chilon > > Good thing we can shift from Ancient Greek heroes to Swiss castles, I > would try touse this in a theme. +1 > > > Wallace > > We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references. +1 > > Elvis > > To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is > not dead!" +1 We could do something spooky maybe, Elvis' ghost... > > > Cimrman > > The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international > audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing. +1 > > Alexander > > I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for > secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... > something else to try than the same old Greek theme. +1 I think there's a lot of possibilities here tho. Alexander Graham Bell, Alexander Method, or maybe the movie Moondance Alexander which is about ponies which leads to a OMG! ponie...@!#!@$...@$ theme! > > > Stradivari > > Music, classic, fine art. +1 > > Those are some ideas I got "on the spot", with some thinking I am sure > we can find some more, so any choice is doable (but I would not be happy > with repeating an "Ancient Greece" theme). Same here, no repeats! ~m ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 08:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi Design Team. > > As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming > process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming > the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the > wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that > passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to > Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the > whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's > list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list > the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the > idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at > least 8 back that pass legal review. > > I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and > simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of > a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring > certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those > events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or > other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building > structure from small things. > > Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to > look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability. > > I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating > in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be > themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there > are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider > leaving those off the list for final review by Legal. > > Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- > before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has > asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your > input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community > voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I > can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours! > > The list: > > Quetzalcoatl +1 should be probably possible to do some simplified or abstract-ized version of this deity. > Constantine unsure. I can imagine connection to Constantinople but I don't have in mind any concrete idea that would work good as default wallpaper > Hubble +1 either stylised satellites or deep-space like view should be plausible > Umbria not sure what this is, wikipedia says it's in Italy, so we could maybe go with some landscape images, but seeing how we failed with that for F11... > Hippokoon unsure. > Heisenberg +1 > Goliath > Rugosa > Adamastor > Orville > Chilon > Wallace > Elvis > Cimrman > Alexander > Stradivari > These are all names of (imaginary) people, it seems... For Cimrman you can go with probably anything (since he invented everything...) also it appeals to me because I am Czech... Stradivari would be probably nice for taking some parts of violins and building the themes around it, similar for Elvis (though with guitar or just music in general). Not sure about the rest... Maybe others would have some ideas on these. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> Skywalker > > This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, > sorry for the confusion. I find your lack of faith disturbing. ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On 06/02/2009 03:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi Design Team. Hi, mighty leader! > Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to > look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability. After a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO. > I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating > in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be > themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there > are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider > leaving those off the list for final review by Legal. I don't this is the case > Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- > before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has > asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your > input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community > voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I > can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours! > > The list: I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas: > Quetzalcoatl It may be inspired by an asteroid, but I would be tempted to challenge the cultural taboos and use some pre-Columbian imagery (dragon serpents, pyramids) > Constantine Byzantine... 'nuff said :D > Hubble Stars, galaxies, we can just stole the wallpaper from the Astronomy spin > Umbria I am pretty sure our Italian friends can come with a lot of ideas about this (I don't think we will feature Star Trek ships). > Hippokoon I am no big fan of this, going with (less known[1]) Spartan kings will be pretty much repeating some motifs tried for F11, but is doable. [1] even all wikipedia has to say about it is a stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocoon > Heisenberg Paul gave already an idea here > Goliath Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David. > Rugosa I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora. > Adamastor I have the same concern as for Hippokoon > Orville It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout "Fedora 12 rocks!" > Chilon Good thing we can shift from Ancient Greek heroes to Swiss castles, I would try touse this in a theme. > Wallace We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references. > Elvis To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is not dead!" > Cimrman The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing. > Alexander I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... something else to try than the same old Greek theme. > Stradivari Music, classic, fine art. Those are some ideas I got "on the spot", with some thinking I am sure we can find some more, so any choice is doable (but I would not be happy with repeating an "Ancient Greece" theme). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F12 names and themeability
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:24:22AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: [...snip...] > The list: > [...snip...] > Skywalker This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, sorry for the confusion. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
