Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 08:51:53AM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi Juan,
> 
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 14:43 +0100, Juan Francisco Fernández wrote:
> > Cata, I also like to working, not speak. But I'm a software developer,
> > not an artist, and here I only can help with suggestions based on my
> > experience. If this is not enough, then I couldn't help in any way to
> > design team.
> 
> Thank you for posting the wallpaper you found as inspiration for us. It
> made me think about a potential treatment for the rocket trails idea
> that I might not have thought of otherwise!

Yes, much appreciated Juan, and thank you for participating.  Getting
more ideas during this stage is helpful.  Soon the team will likely be
concentrating more on rendering them, but as you can see you've
already sparked inspiration for someone, and that's what the idea
gathering stage is partially for.

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Juan,

On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 14:43 +0100, Juan Francisco Fernández wrote:
> Cata, I also like to working, not speak. But I'm a software developer,
> not an artist, and here I only can help with suggestions based on my
> experience. If this is not enough, then I couldn't help in any way to
> design team.

Thank you for posting the wallpaper you found as inspiration for us. It
made me think about a potential treatment for the rocket trails idea
that I might not have thought of otherwise!

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Juan Francisco Fernández
Cata, I also like to working, not speak. But I'm a software developer, not
an artist, and here I only can help with suggestions based on my experience.
If this is not enough, then I couldn't help in any way to design team.

I don't want to disturb this post, so please, forget my participation in it
and keep your talking as before.


2010/1/20 Cata 

> No Juan .
> Sorry , I don't want to be rude .
> I like to working  :) not speak.
> This is a ideea .
>
>
> 2010/1/20 María Leandro :
> > Hello Juan.
> > Is a concept, but what the art team wants to say is that, even is a good
> > base, we are trying to make simple become gorgeous. And I think that see
> > another distro wallpaper might only be a reference of "what we shouldn't
> do,
> > because we don't want to be similar to others". The concept is clean and
> I'm
> > sure the team will take the suggestions :)
> > 
> > Hola Juan.
> > Es un concepto, pero lo que el equipo de arte quiere decir es que, aunque
> es
> > una buena base, estamos tratando de hacer que lo simple se convierta en
> algo
> > hermoso. Creo que ver los wallpapers de otras distros solo debe ser una
> > referencia de "lo que no debemos hacer, porque no queremos ser similares
> a
> > otros". El concepto es limpio y estoy segura de que el equipo de arte lo
> > tomará en consideración como una sugerencia :)
> >
> >
> > El 20 de enero de 2010 07:51, Juan Francisco Fernández  >
> > escribió:
> >>
> >> Is there any problem with posting my suggestions to design team in this
> >> list? I'm sorry in that case.
> >> Bye.
> >>
> >> 2010/1/20 Cata 
> >>>
> >>> Joke for you :
> >>>
> >>> Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
> >>> Because it has special design team .
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Juan Francisco Fernández
Hello María,

I put Debian wallpaper only to illustrate my idea of abstract concept
applied to Máirín Duffy rocket simple sketch. I never have posted to the
list, but I read it sometimes to follow the work of the art (well, design
;)) team, and I have read mentions on others Fedora wallpapers (as the great
Infinity), so I didn't think that uses another distro wallpaper would be a
problem.

I don't want to use a copied wallpaper from Debian, but I like abstract
wallpapers and don't know how to explain my idea better than with an
example.

Thanks!

PS: Thanks, sometimes is not easy to understand and get understood in
english!

PD: Muchas gracias por la explicación, a veces no es fácil entender y ser
entendido con el inglés!



El 20 de enero de 2010 13:41, María Leandro escribió:

> Hello Juan.
>
> Is a concept, but what the art team wants to say is that, even is a good
> base, we are trying to make simple become gorgeous. And I think that see
> another distro wallpaper might only be a reference of "what we shouldn't do,
> because we don't want to be similar to others". The concept is clean and I'm
> sure the team will take the suggestions :)
>
> 
>
> Hola Juan.
>
> Es un concepto, pero lo que el equipo de arte quiere decir es que, aunque
> es una buena base, estamos tratando de hacer que lo simple se convierta en
> algo hermoso. Creo que ver los wallpapers de otras distros solo debe ser una
> referencia de "lo que no debemos hacer, porque no queremos ser similares a
> otros". El concepto es limpio y estoy segura de que el equipo de arte lo
> tomará en consideración como una sugerencia :)
>
>
>
> El 20 de enero de 2010 07:51, Juan Francisco Fernández 
> escribió:
>
> Is there any problem with posting my suggestions to design team in this
>> list? I'm sorry in that case.
>>
>> Bye.
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/20 Cata 
>>
>> Joke for you :
>>>
>>> Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
>>> Because it has special design team .
>>>
>>> > English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.
>>>
>>> So, what is "don't chattering" ?
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Cata
No Juan .
Sorry , I don't want to be rude .
I like to working  :) not speak.
This is a ideea .


2010/1/20 María Leandro :
> Hello Juan.
> Is a concept, but what the art team wants to say is that, even is a good
> base, we are trying to make simple become gorgeous. And I think that see
> another distro wallpaper might only be a reference of "what we shouldn't do,
> because we don't want to be similar to others". The concept is clean and I'm
> sure the team will take the suggestions :)
> 
> Hola Juan.
> Es un concepto, pero lo que el equipo de arte quiere decir es que, aunque es
> una buena base, estamos tratando de hacer que lo simple se convierta en algo
> hermoso. Creo que ver los wallpapers de otras distros solo debe ser una
> referencia de "lo que no debemos hacer, porque no queremos ser similares a
> otros". El concepto es limpio y estoy segura de que el equipo de arte lo
> tomará en consideración como una sugerencia :)
>
>
> El 20 de enero de 2010 07:51, Juan Francisco Fernández 
> escribió:
>>
>> Is there any problem with posting my suggestions to design team in this
>> list? I'm sorry in that case.
>> Bye.
>>
>> 2010/1/20 Cata 
>>>
>>> Joke for you :
>>>
>>> Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
>>> Because it has special design team .
>>>
>>> > English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.
>>>
>>> So, what is "don't chattering" ?
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread María Leandro
Hello Juan.

Is a concept, but what the art team wants to say is that, even is a good
base, we are trying to make simple become gorgeous. And I think that see
another distro wallpaper might only be a reference of "what we shouldn't do,
because we don't want to be similar to others". The concept is clean and I'm
sure the team will take the suggestions :)



Hola Juan.

Es un concepto, pero lo que el equipo de arte quiere decir es que, aunque es
una buena base, estamos tratando de hacer que lo simple se convierta en algo
hermoso. Creo que ver los wallpapers de otras distros solo debe ser una
referencia de "lo que no debemos hacer, porque no queremos ser similares a
otros". El concepto es limpio y estoy segura de que el equipo de arte lo
tomará en consideración como una sugerencia :)



El 20 de enero de 2010 07:51, Juan Francisco Fernández
escribió:

> Is there any problem with posting my suggestions to design team in this
> list? I'm sorry in that case.
>
> Bye.
>
>
> 2010/1/20 Cata 
>
> Joke for you :
>>
>> Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
>> Because it has special design team .
>>
>> > English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.
>>
>> So, what is "don't chattering" ?
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Juan Francisco Fernández
Is there any problem with posting my suggestions to design team in this
list? I'm sorry in that case.

Bye.


2010/1/20 Cata 

> Joke for you :
>
> Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
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> > English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.
>
> So, what is "don't chattering" ?
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Cata
Joke for you :

Why fedora has a design so simple compared to other distributions?
Because it has special design team .

> English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.

So, what is "don't chattering" ?
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Juan Francisco Fernández
I think I was not clear in my previous message, I don't have the skills to
do it, I was only giving some hints to desing team.

English is not my native language, as you can see hehehe.

2010/1/20 Nicu Buculei 

> On 01/20/2010 11:49 AM, Juan Francisco Fernández wrote:
> > I like this idea. I would try something abstract, as the Debian 5.0
> > default wallpaper
> > (
> http://www.debianart.org/cchost/people/si0ux/si0ux_-_MoreBlue_Orbit_5.png
> ),
>
> That is nice, clean and simple.
>
> > with ascending white trails as the horizontal white lines in Debian
> > wallpaper, and some sort of rockets made as a prolongation of these
> > lines (as the white spirals on Debian one), not real rockets.
>
> Fine, but please do not include any logo in the image, we keep the logo
> away for reusability, branding and trademark reasons.
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-20 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 01/20/2010 11:49 AM, Juan Francisco Fernández wrote:
> I like this idea. I would try something abstract, as the Debian 5.0
> default wallpaper
> (http://www.debianart.org/cchost/people/si0ux/si0ux_-_MoreBlue_Orbit_5.png),

That is nice, clean and simple.

> with ascending white trails as the horizontal white lines in Debian
> wallpaper, and some sort of rockets made as a prolongation of these
> lines (as the white spirals on Debian one), not real rockets.

Fine, but please do not include any logo in the image, we keep the logo 
away for reusability, branding and trademark reasons.

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-15 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 01/15/2010 04:27 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 09:32 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>>
>> To be honest, it made me think more at anime I saw recently where they
>> had such colored trails drawn by some ships (or they were mechas? I
>> guess so) preparing for some intergalactic fight (that being the link
>> with space :D )
>
> Hehe, you don't happen to remember the name of the anime do you?

It seems my memory was a bit wrong, I think what I was remembering was 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voices_of_a_Distant_Star where the trails 
are the same color, never the less the images are beautiful looking, 
here are a few screencaps: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/voads/

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-15 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 09:32 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 01/14/2010 06:37 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
> >>>
> >>> I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
> >>> organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
> >
> > I saw this and immediately thought "whoa, rising rockets with trails
> > would make an awesome graphical boot."
> 
> It made me think about an airshow, when you see airplanes flying with 
> trails of various colors, drawing stuff on the sky, you know, thing like 
> this:
> 
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yeovilton_Air_Day_airshow.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Sunderland_Airshow_2009_%281%29.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Pass_By,_Radom_Airshow_2005.jpg

Oh exactly I think there's a lot of possibility for some cool
visual treatments using the trails like that :)
> 
> To be honest, it made me think more at anime I saw recently where they 
> had such colored trails drawn by some ships (or they were mechas? I 
> guess so) preparing for some intergalactic fight (that being the link 
> with space :D )

Hehe, you don't happen to remember the name of the anime do you?

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-15 Thread Kris Thomsen
Nicu, I love that air show pictures! Could be a great idea for wallpaper :)

// Kris

2010/1/15 Nicu Buculei :
> On 01/14/2010 06:37 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png

 I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
 organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
>>
>> I saw this and immediately thought "whoa, rising rockets with trails
>> would make an awesome graphical boot."
>
> It made me think about an airshow, when you see airplanes flying with
> trails of various colors, drawing stuff on the sky, you know, thing like
> this:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yeovilton_Air_Day_airshow.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Sunderland_Airshow_2009_%281%29.jpg
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Pass_By,_Radom_Airshow_2005.jpg
>
> To be honest, it made me think more at anime I saw recently where they
> had such colored trails drawn by some ships (or they were mechas? I
> guess so) preparing for some intergalactic fight (that being the link
> with space :D )
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 01/14/2010 06:37 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
>>>
>>> I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
>>> organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
>
> I saw this and immediately thought "whoa, rising rockets with trails
> would make an awesome graphical boot."

It made me think about an airshow, when you see airplanes flying with 
trails of various colors, drawing stuff on the sky, you know, thing like 
this:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yeovilton_Air_Day_airshow.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Sunderland_Airshow_2009_%281%29.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Red_Arrows_Pass_By,_Radom_Airshow_2005.jpg

To be honest, it made me think more at anime I saw recently where they 
had such colored trails drawn by some ships (or they were mechas? I 
guess so) preparing for some intergalactic fight (that being the link 
with space :D )

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 01/15/2010 12:09 AM, Camilo Mesias wrote:
> Are there any notes on how to hack Plymouth animations, it would be
> interesting to try to put something together.

Charlie, our expert in the field, wrote some articles about this: 
http://brej.org/blog/?cat=16

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Camilo Mesias
Are there any notes on how to hack Plymouth animations, it would be
interesting to try to put something together.

Ideally I suppose there could be a common bit of software that could
be part of a screensaver or part of a boot animation / animated login
splash screen.

For rocket imagery I really like some of the shots from Gattaca, where
the rocket flight was an image associated with the aspirations of the
protagonist. The rockets were computer generated and usually appeared
behind some stark geometric architecture or simple coloured
backgrounds.



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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
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On 14/01/10 07:06 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I had this idea in my head all week; I did a very simple sketch and
> posted it to the f13 artwork wiki:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
>
> It's a really rough sketch. The concept is really along the lines of
> what all of our sketches have, I think. But the visual style I'd want to
> go for is like this Modest Mouse album:
>
> http://www.kolnstyle.com/lbmcvrz/Modest%20Mouse-GNFPQLBN.jpg
>
Speaking about Mouses, that reminds a old Dreamcast videogame I own
called Chu Chu Rocket.
http://xboxmodz.com/DC/A_D/images/19f.jpg

Current stage is all about gather concept and ideas.

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
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On 14/01/10 10:31 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:26:54AM -0500, Patrick Connelly wrote:
>> 2010/1/14 Máirín Duffy :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I had this idea in my head all week; I did a very simple sketch and
>>> posted it to the f13 artwork wiki:
>>>
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
>>>
>>> It's a really rough sketch. The concept is really along the lines of
>>> what all of our sketches have, I think. But the visual style I'd want to
>>> go for is like this Modest Mouse album:
>>>
>>> http://www.kolnstyle.com/lbmcvrz/Modest%20Mouse-GNFPQLBN.jpg
>>>
>>> I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
>>> organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
>>>
>>> Maybe a kooky idea, just something that's been in my head this week.
>>>
>> I love where that idea is going.  I think you could make the rocket
>> trails do something like a DNA strand or something like that would be
>> cool.  I also like the kind of one sidedness of the background.
>
> As do I.  The desktop background works best which does not demand a
> lot of attention.  I'd much rather see something on the Fedora desktop
> *inspired* by the release name than being a direct, verbal
> interpretation.  That inspiration aspect can keep the background more
> figurative, subtle, and less likely to clash with graphical objects
> like icons and windows.
>
That is what concepts are for. We put all ideas we have then we will
work on their best aspects.
So far, common elements on most concepts are rockets, space and light
traills.

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:26:54AM -0500, Patrick Connelly wrote:
> 2010/1/14 Máirín Duffy :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had this idea in my head all week; I did a very simple sketch and
> > posted it to the f13 artwork wiki:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
> >
> > It's a really rough sketch. The concept is really along the lines of
> > what all of our sketches have, I think. But the visual style I'd want to
> > go for is like this Modest Mouse album:
> >
> > http://www.kolnstyle.com/lbmcvrz/Modest%20Mouse-GNFPQLBN.jpg
> >
> > I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
> > organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
> >
> > Maybe a kooky idea, just something that's been in my head this week.
> >
> I love where that idea is going.  I think you could make the rocket
> trails do something like a DNA strand or something like that would be
> cool.  I also like the kind of one sidedness of the background.

As do I.  The desktop background works best which does not demand a
lot of attention.  I'd much rather see something on the Fedora desktop
*inspired* by the release name than being a direct, verbal
interpretation.  That inspiration aspect can keep the background more
figurative, subtle, and less likely to clash with graphical objects
like icons and windows.

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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Mel Chua
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
>>
>> It's a really rough sketch. The concept is really along the lines of
>> what all of our sketches have, I think. But the visual style I'd want to
>> go for is like this Modest Mouse album:
>>
>> http://www.kolnstyle.com/lbmcvrz/Modest%20Mouse-GNFPQLBN.jpg
>>
>> I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
>> organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.

I saw this and immediately thought "whoa, rising rockets with trails 
would make an awesome graphical boot."

I don't know how http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBheUFaRnr8 (the F10 
boot animation, "solar") was done or what it would take to get that 
animated (and whether it'd be worth it) but it would be pretty sweet.

--Mel
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Re: [Design-team] f13 rockets simple sketch

2010-01-14 Thread Patrick Connelly
I love where that idea is going.  I think you could make the rocket
trails do something like a DNA strand or something like that would be
cool.  I also like the kind of one sidedness of the background.

--pcon

2010/1/14 Máirín Duffy :
> Hi,
>
> I had this idea in my head all week; I did a very simple sketch and
> posted it to the f13 artwork wiki:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F13-concept-rocketlines.png
>
> It's a really rough sketch. The concept is really along the lines of
> what all of our sketches have, I think. But the visual style I'd want to
> go for is like this Modest Mouse album:
>
> http://www.kolnstyle.com/lbmcvrz/Modest%20Mouse-GNFPQLBN.jpg
>
> I think it would be cool for the trails of the rockets to have an
> organic shape to them like they're flower stems or something.
>
> Maybe a kooky idea, just something that's been in my head this week.
>
> ~m
>
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