[Bug 2028610] [NEW] bring-to-front and send-to-back not working for some apps

2023-07-24 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 23.04, a number of my applications have
stopped accepting bring-to-front (right click on the title bar) and
send-to-back (middle click on the title bar).  On the other hand, other
apps (native Gnome apps seemingly) do still seem to work.  Note I'm
using X11 not Wayland.

A set of apps I know do not work anymore, that used to work with Ubuntu 22.10 
and below:
* xterm
* Emacs
* Chrome
* Slack
* Spotify
* VirtualBox manager

Some apps that do still work:
* Remmina
* File Manager
* gnome-terminal
* Gnome Settings
* Ubuntu Software

There are many more in both categories.

Please fix things so that I can use bring-to-front and send-to-back on
all my apps again.  Thanks!

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 23.04
Package: mutter 44.2-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.14.0-1054.61-oem 5.14.21
Uname: Linux 5.14.0-1054-oem x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.26.1-0ubuntu2
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
Date: Mon Jul 24 23:31:31 2023
DistributionChannelDescriptor:
 # This is the distribution channel descriptor for the OEM CDs
 # For more information see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributionChannelDescriptor
 canonical-oem-somerville-focal-amd64-20200502-85
InstallationDate: Installed on 2022-12-02 (234 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 20.04 "Focal" - Build amd64 LIVE Binary 20200502-05:58
SourcePackage: mutter
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to lunar on 2023-06-04 (50 days ago)

** Affects: mutter (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug lunar

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[Bug 1797734] Re: slow calculator startup

2020-03-16 Thread Paul Smith
Hey, if my assertion incentivizes someone to figure out how to do that,
I'm more than willing to admit I was wrong :).

The thing is, IMO "fast enough" for a desktop calculator is pretty darn
fast.  In my opinion the current integrated DEB version is already slow
enough to be frustrating, so there's plenty of work in this area without
even considering the issue of snaps.  People just don't expect to have
to wait for a calculator on their computer: isn't calculating the thing
that computers were built for and are best at?!

I'm not suggesting we should do something like waste users' memory by
preloading the calculator app just so it can be ready to display a
window quickly, though.  In reality probably not enough people use the
app often enough to justify that.

Cheers!

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[Bug 1797734] Re: slow calculator startup

2020-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
It is not physically possible to ever get a snap to start as fast as a
native application.  The entire purpose of a snap is that it uses its
own set of dependencies, which means that by definition it cannot share
those dependencies with other applications on the system, which means
that they must be loaded separately, which will take longer, use more
system resources, etc.

snaps should be used for applications which (a) are difficult to
package, and/or (b) want to be used across multiple versions where
prerequisites might change, and/or (c) snaps downsides are not as
relevant (for example, they are left running for longer periods of time
and are large enough that they aren't expected to start quickly, to
amortize the increased start time and resource usage).

None of those criteria hold true for a desktop calculator utility.  We
need to get to the point where I can hit the calculator button on the
keyboard and a calculator window appears virtually instantaneously.
gnome-calculator was always too slow to start, but now it's far slower:
it's moving in exactly the wrong direction.  Using it as a way to
experiment with snaps just gives both snaps and gnome-calculator a bad
reputation.

This bug is not trying to say "we must improve snap startup times".

This bug is trying to say "gnome-calculator is not an appropriate
application to be snapped and should be changed back to a native
application".

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[Bug 1797734] Re: slow calculator startup

2020-03-14 Thread Paul Smith
I'm not sure why the "is 2s too slow to start" is the question being
asked.  Who starts and stops their calculator multiple times in a row?
That's not a realistic use-case for the vast majority.

Most people need a calculator once a day or every few days, and a
desktop calculator is not an application people tend to leave running
for long periods like a browser or word processor.  They need to do a
quick bit of computation so they open the app, work in it for a few
minutes, then close it again.  Startup speed is, after correctness,
probably THE most important aspect of a utility like this.

The interesting number for gnome-calculator is the FIRST number: how
long it takes to be able to use the application from a cold start.  15s
is much closer to what I see, EVERY TIME I start gnome-calculator.

That's just... close to unusable.

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[Bug 1729028] Re: gnome-shell crashes when monitor sleeps or is turned off

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Smith
I wasn't having any problems with Ubuntu 18.04 but ever since I upgraded
to Ubuntu 18.10 gnome-shell seems to crash two out of every three times
the screensaver starts.

I used ubuntu-bug on a /var/crash file but I have no idea what happened
to it: it showed me the info in a window and I said go ahead and send
it, then it disappeared and I got no email or anything.

FYI, I have an older system with an old NVidia card, no 4k monitor
although I do use two monitors.  I use Xg not wayland.

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[Bug 1812593] Re: gnome-shell[3159]: JS ERROR: Exception in callback for signal: activate: Error: Error invoking IBus.set_global_engine_async: Expected function for callback argument callback, got und

2019-01-27 Thread Paul Smith
I was seeing this same warning.  The only overlap of extensions with the
list above and my list (I only use 3 extensions) is 'system-
moni...@paradoxxx.zero.gmail.com'.

I realized I had installed that extension from source rather than
through the extensions website since it needed to be built from source
for a while due to prerequisites, and I hadn't updated it.  I
uninstalled and re-installed it from the Extensions web site.  So far I
haven't seen this warning come back.  I'll continue to check if I see it
again.

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  activate: Error: Error invoking IBus.set_global_engine_async: Expected
  function for callback argument callback, got undefined

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[Bug 1730241] Re: Evolution segfaults when NVidia driver is installed but not used

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Smith
Aha, looking at issue #109 then checking journalctl I see:

Oct 09 09:34:34 homebase kernel: NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 
340.107, but
 NVRM: this kernel module has the version 
340.106.  Please
 NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and 
all NVIDIA driver
 NVRM: components have the same version.
Oct 09 09:34:34 homebase kernel: NVRM: nvidia_frontend_ioctl: minor 255, 
module->ioctl failed, error -22

I suspect that maybe an "apt update" ran which installed a new nvidia
driver but I haven't rebooted so the old one is still active?  I'll try
rebooting to see if that helps.

I think it would be very helpful if libcogl could be enhanced to report
some sort of error rather than just dumping core...

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[Bug 1730241] Re: Evolution segfaults when NVidia driver is installed but not used

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Smith
Seems like it might be related to this:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/cogl/issues/1 which similarly was
reported here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-
center/issues/109

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[Bug 1730241] Re: Evolution segfaults when NVidia driver is installed but not used

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Smith
I just restarted Evolution (but did not reboot my system or make any
other changes) and now Evolution is crashing for me in the identical way
described here.  I literally just quit Evolution, it was running fine,
and restarted it and now it just crashes with the same stacktrace shown
above, a null pointer passed to g_ascii_strtoull() (will add it as an
attachment) after this error:

  (evolution:14770): GLib-CRITICAL **: 19:35:04.237: g_strsplit:
assertion 'string != NULL' failed

I'm now a little afraid to restart my system in case more things start
to fail.

FYI, glxinfo shows:

$ glxinfo
name of display: :1
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for 
operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  24 (X_GLXCreateNewContext)
  Value in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  93
  Current serial number in output stream:  94

I think if nothing else, a bug should be filed with libcogl asking them
to be more defensive in their programming here and handle badly
formatted GPU version string.  For example in my backtrace I can clearly
see that the strings being taken from the context are all null, and that
_cogl_gpu_info_parse_version_string() simply passes this to
g_ascii_strtoull() without checking.


I have Ubuntu 18.04.1 with:

ii  evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-common  3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-data-server 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-data-server-common  3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-plugin-bogofilter   3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-plugin-pstimport3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  evolution-plugins 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
ii  libclutter-1.0-0:amd641.26.2+dfsg-4
ii  libclutter-1.0-0-dbgsym:amd64 1.26.2+dfsg-4
ii  libclutter-1.0-common 1.26.2+dfsg-4
ii  libclutter-gst-3.0-0:amd643.0.26-1
ii  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0:amd641.8.4-3
ii  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0-dbgsym:amd64 1.8.4-3
ii  libcogl-common1.22.2-3
ii  libcogl-pango20:amd64 1.22.2-3
ii  libcogl-path20:amd64  1.22.2-3
ii  libcogl20:amd64   1.22.2-3
ii  libcogl20-dbgsym:amd641.22.2-3
ii  libglib2.0-0:amd642.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
ii  libglib2.0-0-dbgsym:amd64 2.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
ii  libglib2.0-bin2.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
ii  libglib2.0-data   2.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
ii  libglib2.0-dev:amd64  2.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
ii  libglib2.0-dev-bin2.56.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2

I'm running with NVidia proprietary drivers with my old crusty NVidia
GeForce 8400 GS with the proprietary driver version 340.107 that I've
been using, and has worked fine, for years.

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[Bug 1730241] Re: Evolution segfaults when NVidia driver is installed but not used

2018-10-09 Thread Paul Smith
** Attachment added: "GDB backtrace for crash in libcogl"
   
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[Bug 1728450] [NEW] Details are not visible by default and hide important configuration

2017-10-29 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

When I open the gnome-control-center, I see the following menu items
down the left side: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Background, Notifications, Search,
Region & Language, Universal Access, Online Accounts, Privacy, Sharing,
Sound, Power, Network, Devices (with a sub-menu).  Screenshot attached.

If I happen to move my mouse into the menu area I _may_ notice a very
thin "scroll area" show up briefly before it disappears again, or I
_may_ notice very subtle dotted lines at the bottom of the menu, and I
_may_ notice that there is actually another menu item at the bottom that
I have to scroll down to see: Details.

And if I happen to find that and click on that sub-menu, I will find
critically important items in there such as Date & Time configuration
(what I was looking for to get an AM/PM clock, and couldn't find at
all), Users configuration (couldn't find that either so had to add users
by hand from the CLI), and Default Applications (also important so I can
change the default mail client etc.)

What does "Details" even mean?  This menu might as well be named
"Miscellaneous".  Really that would be MORE helpful: at least it would
be clear that there's a bunch of random stuff below that menu, which is
the reality.  The only thing in "Details" that feels appropriate to the
name is the "About" menu.

I really like the format change of gnome-control-center from the "rows
of icons" to the left-side menu: it looks nice and avoiding the "go back
and select something else" by just clicking along the left side is a
very pleasant experience.  But the menu organization here is really
confusing and hard to use, and needs serious attention.

There needs to be enough top-level menus to be sure everything fits on
the screen without scrolling.

The About menu item should be on the top-level menu at the bottom of the
list... people think it's not important but it's actually REALLY
important, so inexperienced people can easily obtain critical system
details when asking for help.

And the grouping of these menus needs love: for example, why is "Wi-Fi"
a separate menu item from "Network"?  I would think that Wi-Fi, Network,
Online Accounts and Sharing could all be combined into one sub-menu like
"Internet" or similar.  Actually I don't have a Wi-Fi adapter in my
system so I don't know what shows up there: maybe "Wi-Fi" is more about
the hardware, and belongs under "Devices"?  Either way.

Also I think "Region & Language", "Universal Access", and possibly "Date
& Time" could be grouped together.

And "Background", "Privacy", and "Notifications" could be grouped under
some sort of "desktop" menu.  Or maybe "Region & Language" would stay a
top-level item and "Universal Access" and "Date & Time" would be added
to "Desktop".

Anyway.  I realize there are lots of ways to chop these items up and
people will have disagreements, but the current situation is really very
not good: the control center needs to avoid the need for scrolling to
see all the options and if things are moved into sub-menus the names of
those menus HAVE to be evocative and clear.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
Package: gnome-control-center 1:3.26.1-0ubuntu4
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-16.19-generic 4.13.4
Uname: Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu3.1
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: GNOME
Date: Sun Oct 29 15:18:20 2017
InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-10-21 (8 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018)
SourcePackage: gnome-control-center
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug artful

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[Bug 1726143] [NEW] Automatic installation of samba fails with "could not find package libpam-smbpass"

2017-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

I actually have no idea if this is really a Nautilus issue but didn't
know where else to file it.

I have a fresh install of ubuntu 17.10.  I start nautilus (using File).
I right-click on a folder and select "Local Network Share".  When I
select "Share this folder" it says the sharing service is not installed,
so I select "Install Service" and it offers to install samba for me.

I click "install" and it proceeds, then throws up an error dialog:

Could not find package 'libpam-smbpass'

I can see that Samba packages are already installed at this point.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
Package: nautilus 1:3.26.0-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-16.19-generic 4.13.4
Uname: Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: GNOME
Date: Sun Oct 22 15:43:28 2017
InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-10-21 (1 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018)
SourcePackage: nautilus
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: nautilus (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug artful

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[Bug 1726124] [NEW] DNS domain search paths not updated when VPN started

2017-10-22 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

I connect to work with openvpn through network-manager-openvpn.  I'm
selecting automatic (DHCP) to get an IP address, and "Use this
connection only for resources on its network" to support split
tunneling.

In the last few versions of Ubuntu I used, this all worked fine.  In
Ubuntu 17.10 (fresh install, not upgrade) I can access hosts on both my
VPN network and the internet, BUT I have to use FQDN for my VPN network
hosts: the updates to the DNS search path provided by my VPN DHCP server
are never being applied.

Investigating the system I see that /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to
/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf and that resolv.conf does not have
any of the VPN's search path settings in it:

  # This file is managed by man:systemd-resolved(8). Do not edit.
  #
  # 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.
  # run "systemd-resolve --status" to see details about the actual nameservers.
  nameserver 127.0.0.53

  search home

In previous versions of Ubuntu, where NetworkManager controlled the
resolver not systemd, /etc/resolv.conf pointed to
/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf and there was a local dnsmasq instance
that managed all the complexity.  In Ubuntu 17.10 when I look in
/run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf file, I see that the search paths ARE
properly updated there:

  $ cat /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf 
  # Generated by NetworkManager
  search internal.mycorp.com other.mycorp.com home
  nameserver 127.0.1.1

However this file isn't being used, and also there's no dnsmasq running
on the system so if I switch my /etc/resolv.conf to point to this file
instead, then all lookups fail.

Strangely, if I look at the systemd-resolv status I see that in theory
systemd-resolve does seem to know about the proper search paths:

  $ systemd-resolve --status
 ...
  Link 3 (tun0)
Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6
 LLMNR setting: yes
  MulticastDNS setting: no
DNSSEC setting: no
  DNSSEC supported: no
   DNS Servers: 10.3.0.10
10.8.42.2
DNS Domain: ~internal.mycorp.com
~other.mycorp.com

but for whatever reason the search domains are not getting put into the
resolv.conf file:

  $ host mydesk
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

  $ host mydesk.internal.mycorp.com
  mydesk.internal.mycorp.com has address 10.8.37.74

(BTW, the timeout in the failed attempt above takes 10s: it is SUPER
frustrating when all your host lookups are taking that long just to
fail).

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.10
Package: systemd 234-2ubuntu12
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-16.19-generic 4.13.4
Uname: Linux 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.7-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: GNOME
Date: Sun Oct 22 15:08:57 2017
InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-10-21 (1 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018)
MachineType: System manufacturer System Product Name
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm-256color
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.13.0-16-generic 
root=UUID=4384306c-5fed-4b48-97a6-a6d594c4f72b ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
SourcePackage: systemd
SystemdDelta:
 [EXTENDED]   /lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service → 
/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service.d/debian.conf
 [EXTENDED]   /lib/systemd/system/user@.service → 
/lib/systemd/system/user@.service.d/timeout.conf
 
 2 overridden configuration files found.
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
dmi.bios.date: 12/02/2014
dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
dmi.bios.version: 2101
dmi.board.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
dmi.board.name: M5A78L-M/USB3
dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
dmi.board.version: Rev X.0x
dmi.chassis.asset.tag: Asset-1234567890
dmi.chassis.type: 3
dmi.chassis.vendor: Chassis Manufacture
dmi.chassis.version: Chassis Version
dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr2101:bd12/02/2014:svnSystemmanufacturer:pnSystemProductName:pvrSystemVersion:rvnASUSTeKComputerINC.:rnM5A78L-M/USB3:rvrRevX.0x:cvnChassisManufacture:ct3:cvrChassisVersion:
dmi.product.family: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
dmi.product.name: System Product Name
dmi.product.version: System Version
dmi.sys.vendor: System manufacturer

** Affects: systemd (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug artful

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[Bug 1518988] Re: Switching from "Plain Text" to "HTML" mode in Evolution composer keeps fixed width font

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Smith
I tested evolution 3.16.5-1ubuntu3.1 and the problem has been resolved.
Thanks!

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[Bug 1518988] [NEW] Switching from "Plain Text" to "HTML" mode in Evolution composer keeps fixed width font

2015-11-23 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

I'm using Evolution 3.16.5-1ubuntu3 in Ubuntu GNOME 15.10, latest
packages.

My email starts by default in Plain Text mode.  However sometimes I want
to switch to "HTML" mode.  When I do this, I get HTML-formatted email
HOWEVER no matter what I do my font is still always fixed-width and
never proportional.  I can change the size, the slant, etc. but it's
always fixed-width.

After discussing this on the Evolution mailing lists
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-
list/2015-November/msg00112.html it appears this is a bug that was fixed
in 3.18.  However, the fix looks simple to backport: please consider
pulling this into Ubuntu 15.10 version of Evolution to fix this
extremely annoying problem:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753702

Fixed with this commit:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=8aa930e0634b22afa38753816be824d7b1622140

** Affects: evolution
 Importance: Unknown
 Status: Unknown

** Affects: evolution (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753702

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   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=753702
   Importance: Unknown
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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Smith
Thank you Iain!  Is there any possibility this can get backported to
14.04?  As an LTS release, it would be REALLY nice to have this fix
there too... I think this patch applies cleanly to 3.11 as well as 3.12.

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-03-01 Thread Paul Smith
If you know of another way, than filing a bug like this one, I urge you
to pursue it...

** Tags added: patch

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-03-01 Thread Paul Smith
Well, first it has to get fixed in Ubuntu, in any version: currently
there's no fix even in the upcoming 15.04.

Once that happens we can talk about whether it's possible to backport
it.

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-03-01 Thread Paul Smith
Just for completeness I'm adding the patch used to fix this issue
upstream.

** Patch added: Patch for Gnome bug 1247366
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366/+attachment/4331521/+files/bug-1247366.patch

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-02-06 Thread Paul Smith
Milan Crha has posted a fix for the next release of Evolution, which may
or may not be straightforward to cherry-pick back to the current
release.

See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743109

and: https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=0b91d60

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-01-18 Thread Paul Smith
Hm.  It seems that newer versions of Evolution have completely removed
support for runtime detection of the underlying spam filtering facility
in the plugin, so my simple patch in comment #18 is not sufficient and
more work is needed.

See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743109 for more
information.

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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2015-01-14 Thread Paul Smith
I believe this can be fixed with a simple patch to the rules file in the
Evolution Ubuntu package: if we set the BOGOFILTER environment variable
before we run configure then whatever value it has will be used during
the build without checking, and at runtime if the program exists the
plugin will be enabled (and if not it won't be).

** Patch added: Enable bogofilter plugin for Evolution
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366/+attachment/4298600/+files/evo-bogofilter.patch

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Smith
For more info from the Evo developer: https://mail.gnome.org/archives
/evolution-list/2014-May/msg00010.html

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[Bug 1247366] Re: Evolution is missing bogofilter integration

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Smith
Please add this support!  I see no point in omitting it; it's just a
configure flag (and having bogofilter installed at build time).
Bogofilter is much nicer than SA IMO.

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[Bug 1062693] Re: GDM Simple Greeter No Longer Responds to Gconf-editor or Gconftool-2

2012-10-07 Thread Paul Smith
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

** Converted to question:
   https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/210608

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[Bug 1062693] [NEW] GDM Simple Greeter No Longer Responds to Gconf-editor or Gconftool-2

2012-10-06 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

Using 12.04.1 I can no longer display a login warning banner or disable
the user list in simple-greeter either by using gconf-editor or
gconftool-2.  Works in 10.04.4.

Steps to Replicate:
1)  Install GDM:  sudo apt-get install gdm
2)  Use the following script:

--
#!/bin/bash
sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_enable true
sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type string 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_text 
W A R N I N G
*
THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
This computer system is provided only for authorized use. Uses of this system, 
authorized or unauthorized, constitutes consent to monitoring.  This system may 
be monitored for all lawful purposes, including to ensure it's use is 
authorized, for management of the system, to facilitate protection against 
unauthorized access, and to verify security procedures, survivability and 
operational security.  Monitoring includes active attacks by authorized 
personnel and their entities to test or verify the security of the system. 
During monitoring, information may be examined,recorded, copied and used for 
authorized purposes. All information including personal information, placed on 
or sent over this system may be monitored.  Unauthorized use may subject you to 
criminal prosecution. Evidence of any such unauthorized use collected during 
monitoring may be used for administrative, criminal or other adverse action.
sudo gconftool-2 --set --type string 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_text_nochooser 
W A R N I N G
*
THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
This computer system is provided only for authorized use. Uses of this system, 
authorized or unauthorized, constitutes consent to monitoring.  This system may 
be monitored for all lawful purposes, including to ensure it's use is 
authorized, for management of the system, to facilitate protection against 
unauthorized access, and to verify security procedures, survivability and 
operational security.  Monitoring includes active attacks by authorized 
personnel and their entities to test or verify the security of the system. 
During monitoring, information may be examined,recorded, copied and used for 
authorized purposes. All information including personal information, placed on 
or sent over this system may be monitored.  Unauthorized use may subject you to 
criminal prosecution. Evidence of any such unauthorized use collected during 
monitoring may be used for administrative, criminal or other adverse action.
--

Other Package Versions:

gconf2:
  Installed: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
  Candidate: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
  Version table:
 *** 3.2.5-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: gdm 3.0.4-0ubuntu15
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-31.50-generic-pae 3.2.28
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae i686
ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu13
Architecture: i386
Date: Sat Oct  6 01:26:56 2012
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Release i386 
(20120423.2)
ProcEnviron:
 LANGUAGE=en_US:en
 TERM=xterm
 PATH=(custom, no user)
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: gdm
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: gdm (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-bug i386 precise running-unity

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[Bug 1062693] Re: GDM Simple Greeter No Longer Responds to Gconf-editor or Gconftool-2

2012-10-06 Thread Paul Smith
** Description changed:

  Using 12.04.1 I can no longer display a login warning banner or disable
  the user list in simple-greeter either by using gconf-editor or
  gconftool-2.  Works in 10.04.4.
  
  Steps to Replicate:
  1)  Install GDM:  sudo apt-get install gdm
  2)  Use the following script:
  
  --
  #!/bin/bash
  sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
  sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_enable true
  sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --set --type string 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_text 
  W A R N I N G
  *
  THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
  This computer system is provided only for authorized use. Uses of this 
system, authorized or unauthorized, constitutes consent to monitoring.  This 
system may be monitored for all lawful purposes, including to ensure it's use 
is authorized, for management of the system, to facilitate protection against 
unauthorized access, and to verify security procedures, survivability and 
operational security.  Monitoring includes active attacks by authorized 
personnel and their entities to test or verify the security of the system. 
During monitoring, information may be examined,recorded, copied and used for 
authorized purposes. All information including personal information, placed on 
or sent over this system may be monitored.  Unauthorized use may subject you to 
criminal prosecution. Evidence of any such unauthorized use collected during 
monitoring may be used for administrative, criminal or other adverse action.
  sudo gconftool-2 --set --type string 
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/banner_message_text_nochooser 
  W A R N I N G
  *
  THIS IS A PRIVATE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
  This computer system is provided only for authorized use. Uses of this 
system, authorized or unauthorized, constitutes consent to monitoring.  This 
system may be monitored for all lawful purposes, including to ensure it's use 
is authorized, for management of the system, to facilitate protection against 
unauthorized access, and to verify security procedures, survivability and 
operational security.  Monitoring includes active attacks by authorized 
personnel and their entities to test or verify the security of the system. 
During monitoring, information may be examined,recorded, copied and used for 
authorized purposes. All information including personal information, placed on 
or sent over this system may be monitored.  Unauthorized use may subject you to 
criminal prosecution. Evidence of any such unauthorized use collected during 
monitoring may be used for administrative, criminal or other adverse action.
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- Package Versions:
- 
- gdm:
-   Installed: 3.0.4-0ubuntu15
-   Candidate: 3.0.4-0ubuntu15
-   Version table:
-  *** 3.0.4-0ubuntu15 0
- 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 
Packages
- 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
+ Other Package Versions:
  
  gconf2:
-   Installed: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
-   Candidate: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
-   Version table:
-  *** 3.2.5-0ubuntu2 0
- 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
- 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
+   Installed: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
+   Candidate: 3.2.5-0ubuntu2
+   Version table:
+  *** 3.2.5-0ubuntu2 0
+ 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
+ 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: gdm 3.0.4-0ubuntu15
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-31.50-generic-pae 3.2.28
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu13
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sat Oct  6 01:26:56 2012
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Release i386 
(20120423.2)
  ProcEnviron:
-  LANGUAGE=en_US:en
-  TERM=xterm
-  PATH=(custom, no user)
-  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
-  SHELL=/bin/bash
+  LANGUAGE=en_US:en
+  TERM=xterm
+  PATH=(custom, no user)
+  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
+  SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: gdm
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 999691] [NEW] Tab to cancel selects OK instead

2012-05-15 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

If I start a zenity window with a text box:

zenity --entry --text=add text

then I press TAB one time to highlight the Cancel box and press ENTER to
select Cancel, it instead selects OK.  In fact no matter what element is
selected in the zenity window, when I press ENTER it selects OK.

Only by physically clicking on the Cancel box can I cancel.

This misbehavior is potentially (depending on what question was being
asked and what the action to be taken is) extremely dangerous.


$ uname -rm
3.2.0-24-generic x86_64

$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Release:12.04

$ apt-cache policy zenity
zenity:
  Installed: 3.4.0-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 3.4.0-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 3.4.0-0ubuntu4 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages

** Affects: zenity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 990594] [NEW] No way to exit part mode in Rhythmbox

2012-04-28 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

I was messing around with Rhythmbox in Ubuntu 12.04 trying to get a
display I liked.  I saw Party Mode under the View menu and selected it
to see what it was.  I got a full-screen instance of Rhythmbox with NO
WAY TO EXIT!  No menus were available, no keys like ESC etc. worked to
revert to regular mode.  I could bring up the dash with the hotkey
(Super) or use alt-tab etc. to ask to switch windows but none of that
changed the display: Rhythmbox still took up the entire screen.

I could find no way to get rid of it except resorting to CTRL-ALT-F1,
logging on the console, using ps to find the PID and kill it.  If I
wasn't knowledgeable enough to do that, I guess my only option would be
to use the power button on my system!!

That can't be right.

If Rhythmbox is going to be the official music player in Ubuntu someone
needs to do some work to get it to integrate better into Unity.  At the
very least you should remove this menu item until such time as it can be
made to work properly.


~$ apt-cache policy rhythmbox
rhythmbox:
  Installed: 2.96-0ubuntu4
  Candidate: 2.96-0ubuntu4
  Version table:
 *** 2.96-0ubuntu4 0
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
~$ lsb_release -rd
Description:Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
Release:12.04

** Affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.

2010-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
It would be good if people could be explicit about what version of
Evolution they're using AND (more importantly) what type of email server
they're connecting to.  Evolution has to interact with them differently
(because the services have different capabilities).  Are you using
locally-delivered email to a local mailbox, as Knut seems to be?  Are
you connecting to an ISP mail provider using POP?  Using IMAP?  Are you
connecting to Google mail?  Are you connecting to an Exchange server?
Something else?  In short, please go to your email account
(Edit-Preferences-Mail Accounts) and click the Recieving Mail tab and
tell use what the Server Type setting is.

I'm only speaking about connecting to IMAP servers here; I'm also
familiar with Evolution connecting to Exchange servers but that works
very differently.  I've not used local mail delivery or POP (which work
similarly to each other) in many years.

In IMAP, there is no way that the current behavior of Evolution will
lose mail in the way Knut suggests.  A move operation is implemented
as a copy and after the copy succeeds, the original is marked as deleted
by setting a flag.  No mail is actually removed from any folder during
this operation and so no mail can be lost.  In fact that is what
typically generates complaints: that your trash folder has EXTRA mail in
it that you didn't expect.  Sometime later you will initiate an Expunge
operation and that will go through your folders and remove emails that
are marked as deleted.  This operation is performed by the IMAP server,
not Evolution (all Evolution does is send a single expunge command) in
an atomic way so that it does not cause any mail loss (unless there's a
bug in the IMAP server but there's nothing Evolution can do about that,
and switching to a different mail client will not help).  During
Expunge, if you have an email that is marked deleted that you didn't
actually want to be deleted then yes, it will be lost.  But only mail
marked deleted is gone: if you'd copied it to another folder and that
copy is not marked for deletion, then the copy is still present.

One way people using IMAP with Evolution can get frustrated is if they
tend to store things in their Trash folder; they want to use Trash as a
kind of longer-term storage folder.  You definitely cannot do that with
Evolution; you need to choose a different folder and put things you want
to save there.

FYI, Thunderbird connecting to an IMAP server has the same issues that
Evolution does: they have to because an IMAP server only publishes a
certain interface and all clients have to use the same interface.  What
Thunderbird does differently is it runs the Expunge operation for you
all the time in the background.  So, when you move mail in Thunderbird
it does the same copy and mark as deleted operation that Evolution does,
but then it also automatically runs Expunge so that the extra deleted
copy is gone.  When you delete mail in Thunderbird it actually moves
(copy, mark as deleted, expunge) the email to a real folder (sometimes
named Trash).  Thus expunging doesn't cause that mail to go away, you
have to delete it specifically from the Trash folder.

Trevor: I'm sorry that you lost an important mail.  It would be helpful
if you could describe in detail the steps which caused the mail to be
lost.  There's nothing unsafe about the algorithm Evolution uses to move
or delete mail--that is, there is no race condition, etc. in the design
that could cause mail to be lost.  However, all software has bugs and
Evolution is no exception.  It's possible that you've run across a bug
and if so I'm sure the Evolution developers would like to fix it.  In
order to fix it they need more specific information on what happened.

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[Bug 356702] Re: Tooltips stick when switching desktops (Compiz)

2010-09-28 Thread Paul Smith
Re: Sam Spilsbury:

This absolutely is a bug.  Regardless of whether tooltips are marked
sticky or not, they are obviously supposed to be transient.  This bug
says that in some fairly common circumstances, the tooltip shows up for
the workspace switcher and then it NEVER GOES AWAY (unless you switch to
another workspace again).

I've never seen a tooltip that didn't go away after a short time, and
any such tooltip is obviously buggy.

I don't know where the problem lies exactly: maybe an event is missed,
maybe something else, but this is unquestionably a bug.

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[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.

2010-09-19 Thread Paul Smith
Knut: your comments reveal a relatively shallow understanding of the
email environment.  And they show you haven't understood the real
situation with Evolution.  As for discussions of how IMAP servers ought
to work, you should be filing those bugs with the teams that create the
IMAP servers; I'm sure they'll welcome your input.

The comments around moving files into/out of Trash shows you haven't
read the various discussions of the problem (even to bugs marked as
duplicates in Gnome Bugzilla).  There is no real Trash folder in
Evolution, so there is no move or copy of email from any other folder
into Trash.  Trash is a virtual folder: it doesn't exist physically, but
instead is constructed as a user-interface artifact, containing all the
messages that are marked as deleted.  Thus, to delete a message (have it
appear in Trash) all that has to be done is mark that message as
deleted.  To undelete a message, you just remove the deleted attribute
and it reappears exactly where it was before... because it was never
moved anywhere else.  There is no copy involved with delete, no extra
space consumed, etc.  And similarly, there is no copy involved with
undelete either.

This is why messages appear in Trash when you move them to another
folder: as I've described there is no MOVE operation in IMAP, so a MOVE
must be implemented as a COPY followed by a delete.  When you mark a
message deleted that message appears in the Trash folder.

I do understand Mathias's frustration, but unfortunately it's not so
simple.  Mathias you suggest it's just a matter of Evolution hiding
these details, but that cannot be done reliably.  There is only one
delete flag in IMAP, so there is no way to make a distinction on the
server between messages that are deleted by hand, and those that are
deleted as a side-effect of a desired move operation.  They are
identical as far as any IMAP client is concerned.

Yes, of course, Evolution could maintain its own local list of messages
that should be hidden rather than displayed in Trash because they are a
side-effect of a copy/delete.  However this list would be present only
in that instance of Evolution.  If you ever attached to your IMAP server
using a different Evolution (say on a laptop or work system), or you
used a webmail client or another IMAP client (maybe on your smart phone,
etc.), all those extra deleted messages WOULD appear there, and you'd
have even more confusion and bugs reported.

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[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.

2010-09-16 Thread Paul Smith
Ayeyiyi.  Knut, please stop trying to impress everyone with your
credentials and consider that you might actually not know everything
about everything quite yet, regardless of how much you know about
databases.  I've been programming on UNIX since before POSIX even
existed and I certainly understand the concepts quite well.  I'll post
one last message in the hopes that others reading this will understand
what's going on, at least.

Since you've done a lot of DB work apparently, consider Evolution as if
it were a generic open source SQL client program that can connect to
lots of different types of SQL servers: Oracle, Postgres, MySQL, etc.
The data is left on the server (for at least some of the protocols) and
the client only provides access to the data.  The client can only
perform the operations that the server makes available: you can't
perform Oracle-specific SQL commands on a Postgres server, etc.  Suppose
this client could also access databases that are local and don't have a
server (sqlite databases maybe).  That's a good analogy for what
Evolution is.  You didn't tell us what kind of server you're trying to
talk to but people are assuming IMAP so I will too.  If you're using
something different let us know: that would be very helpful information.

First, SMTP is a mail *transfer* protocol.  It defines the network
protocol for two mail *servers* (e.g., sendmail etc.) to talk to each
other to exchange mail.  In SMTP parlance these are known as MTAs, or
Mail Transfer Agents.  Evolution is NOT an MTA.  Evolution is a Mail
User Agent (MUA).  The SMTP standard has virtually nothing to say about
the protocol that MUA's use to talk to MTA's.  In short, Evolution has
virtually nothing to do with with SMTP at all (Evolution has the ability
to connect directly to MTA's to _send_ mail, but it cannot, and neither
does any other client, use SMTP at all when _reading_ mail, as we are
discussing in this bug).

Second, Evolution as an email client actually can use lots of different
methods to retrieve email.  It can get mail from a POP server, from an
IMAP server, from a Microsoft Exchange server, or from a Novell
Groupwise server.  It can even read from USENET.  And, of course, it can
read from local mail spool files of various types.  One of these types
is the traditional UNIX mail spool that sendmail uses, and others are
spool files left by other types of local software.  Each of these uses a
different protocol for getting mail.

Third, Evolution does not implement the server software, at all.  If you
connect to a POP server then someone else wrote that POP server.  It may
not even be free software at all; your ISP (that you download your email
from) decides all that.  Ditto for all the other ways Evolution gets
email.  Even the local spool files are created by other software such as
sendmail, etc., that Evolution has no control over.

Fourth, for a number of those server types, including IMAP, Exchange,
Groupwise, etc., Evolution does not manage your email locally.  The
email is left on the server and Evolution sends commands to the server
to ask it to manipulate your email.  This is what I mean when I say that
the IMAP protocol doesn't support MOVE: you don't have a local copy of
the email so only the server can manipulate it, and you can only ask the
server to perform the commands that it supports.

With other types of mailbox, such as local mail spools and POP servers,
Evolution downloads your mail to your local system and manipulates it
there.  Obviously in these environments Evolution has a lot more
flexibility in the operations it can perform.

Finally, WRT searching, searching is very safe, at least in IMAP.  Every
addition to an email folder only ever adds to the end of the folder,
never inserts in the middle, and every new message number is higher than
any other message number (for that folder) that has been used before so
there's never duplication.  Every change to the folder is atomic (you
don't get half a message added, or half an expunge performed).  Every
search starts at the beginning of the folder and goes to the end by
first finding the current maximum message ID, then going through the
folder message by message (ignoring missing messages) until that maximum
is reached.  If new items have been added since the search started they
will have larger message IDs and are not seen for that search.
Alternatively sometimes the client asks the server for a complete list
of message IDs, then goes through that list.  In any event, it's never a
problem to have new messages added during searches.

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[Bug 365270] Re: Move is Copy + Thrash, should be Move that removes all traces of the first.

2010-09-15 Thread Paul Smith
I'm loathe to get involved here since Knut seems intent on flaming and
not so interested in understanding, but reading the comments here I've
been struck by a great attention to irrelevant details and not much
clear description of the real issue.

Knut continually makes reference to a MOVE operation, as if such a
thing existed.  But it doesn't.  If it did, you can be sure that
Evolution would use it.

Why can't Evolution create that operation?  Because Evolution is a mail
CLIENT.  It talks to mail SERVERS.  Evolution does not implement and
cannot influence the servers.  The only operations that the client can
perform are those that the server supports.  The servers implement the
IMAP standard, and the IMAP standard does not define a MOVE operation.
So, no IMAP server supports a MOVE operation, and so no IMAP client can
use a MOVE operation.

So good, there's no MOVE operation.  The only way an IMAP client can
effect a move from one folder to another is by first doing a COPY, then
marking the original message as deleted, and this is what Evolution and
ALL OTHER IMAP CLIENTS (yes, including Thunderbird) do.  That by itself
is enough to blunt some of Knut's criticisms, since no client will ever
be able to avoid the creation of a new message via the COPY command.

Similarly, the IMAP standard does not provide any way to delete a single
message.  The ONLY way to actually cause messages to disappear out of an
IMAP folder is by an EXPUNGE, which takes all the messages that have
been marked as deleted and removes them (not just one, but ALL of them).
This is a very expensive operation, typically, for your server (as
opposed to marking a message as deleted which is typically very fast).
After the expunge is done, then often the client has to re-read and re-
index the messages, because its local cache of which messages are marked
deleted and which aren't might be wrong.  The whole thing is very labor
intensive on both the client and server, as well as the network.

Evolution works the way that the IMAP standard writers intended clients
to work: it hides deleted messages and leaves the decision about when to
expunge them up to the user.

The problem is that many other clients don't work like this.  They don't
hide the deleted messages, which leads to lots of confusion about
duplicated messages, and they also expunge messages for you.  For
example other IMAP clients implement the semantics of MOVE by doing a
COPY, marking the original as deleted, then running EXPUNGE.  For every
single email you delete.  This is a big load on both clients and
servers, AND it means that your email that you might have deleted but
not wanted expunged yet, is deleted for you.

This is a shame because if all clients worked the way the standard
expected them to then they'd work together well.  However, just like
Evolution cannot change the way servers work, so it cannot change the
way other clients work.  So, or course Evolution should have an option
to behave the way other clients do and have a physical trash folder and
implement the COPY/delete/EXPUNGE semantics that other clients favor.
You won't need this if you only ever use Evolution as a client but if
you switch between different clients you may need it, and Evolution
should provide that support.  I believe they intend to but obviously
this is a low priority, based on how long these bugs have been open.
That's definitely a shame.


As for Knut's other comments, he implies above that he read and understood the 
RFC Marc mentioned but that is clearly not the case. There's no such thing as 
cardinality of indexes in email, and there's no chance that searches will 
skip anything.  When you do the COPY the message number on the copy is the next 
number in a monotonically increasing index, it is NOT inserted into the 
middle.  When you EXPUNGE all deleted messages disappear and their numbers are 
gone, and NEVER re-used.  There is no chance for confusion of duplicate message 
numbers, etc. during sorting or searching.

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[Bug 497578] [NEW] Workspace switcher shows tooltips constantly that won't disappear

2009-12-16 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-panel

Since I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10, I've noticed that the tooltips in
the workspace switcher that show the name of the selected window (Click
to start dragging ...) will sometimes not go away.  It seems to happen
most if I use the mouse to click on a different screen in the switcher,
then move my mouse right away (but not RIGHT away--just about the time
it normally takes me to move my mouse away, apparently) out of the
switcher into the normal desktop.

In that case the tooltip that the switcher pops up does not go away
again: it's like some event was missed or something.  The tooltip will
stay there forever until I (a) switch to another desktop with CTRL-
ALT-arrow or similar, or (b) move my mouse over either the upper or
lower panel (any part of it).  Just selecting a different window on the
same screen doesn't cause the tooltip to go away.

It's very frustrating because it happens probably 80% of the time that I
use my mouse to choose a different screen, and I have my screens
organized by work activity and I'm often switching back and forth.

It sounds minor but it's extremely annoying to have these yellow
tooltips showing up and not going away unless I go do something.

If anyone has any suggestions about ways I could narrow down the
problem, etc. I'm intereested!!

I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 64bit, with Workspace Switcher 2.28.0.

** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 13983] Re: Evolution virtual trash / real trash on IMAP server

2009-11-24 Thread Paul Smith
Sebastien is correct that Carl's message is missing information.  Evo
most definitely DOES mark messages as deleted and does NOT expunge them
(unless you use the Expunge action of course; the keybinding for this is
CTRL-E so it's possible Carl hit it by accident).  The entire concept of
storing your email in your main INBOX, marked as deleted, but wanting to
keep it around, is fraught with danger--it takes only a slip of a finger
to delete all those messages.  Hopefully Carl will choose a more
reliable and less dangerous method of storing wanted email in the
future, such as moving it to a folder: that's why people use IMAP after
all, for the folder support.

I don't know about the search feature issue; if it's a feature of only
newer IMAP servers it's possible Evo doesn't support it.

However, I don't think Sebastien's characterization of the bug is
correct either.  People don't want delete to erase emails.  What this
bug is asking for is that delete should actually move the emails to
another physical folder on the IMAP server, rather than what it does
now, which is mark the email as deleted on the server (and make it
visible in the virtual folder Trash).

Just to be clear, the way Evo works is the way the IMAP standard intends
IMAP to be used.  There is absolutely no question about that.  I don't
understand Busby's comment: I think he's just raising a straw man.  The
way the IMAP standard intended email moves to be done is exactly how Evo
does it: you copy the message to the target folder, then mark the
original for deletion.

IMAP is a very problematic protocol, because it lets the underlying
implementation, which is often counter-intuitive to people, show through
into the standard.  This not only means that the behavior of the server
(what things are easy and what things are hard) is visible through the
protocol, but it also biases the implementation in various ways.  For
example, IMAP assumes that it's very difficult to delete messages from a
folder: this is because many implementations of mail servers keep all
mail in a given folder in one long file: deleting a message out of the
file involves rewriting the whole file... and even for medium-sized
folders that's expensive.  Even if your IMAP server implementation used
something more intelligent such as one file per email with directories
for folders, or if it used a database backend, or whatever, so that
deletes are cheap, the IMAP standard carries with it the baggage of the
early implementations.

This also proscribes the way IMAP is intended to be used.  The model
IMAP intends is that you save up your deletions for a while, then do
them all in bulk.  Thus, the standard creates a /deleted flag (flags
are typically kept in a metadata file or even a database on the server,
that is much cheaper to manipulate than the very large raw email file).
The idea is you delete messages, and copy-then-delete messages, etc. and
at the end of these operations you run the expunge command and all
those deletes finally take effect.  The model is that you run expunge
regularly (maybe every time you exit your mail client, or maybe after
every session of using email), but NOT after every single delete or
copy operation (TB by default does it this way).  The way Evo works is
perfectly in line with the standard.

The standard assumes that the client has some intelligence behind the
way it handles messages marked with the /Deleted flag.  Evo uses a
virtual folder for this (I understand and agree with the issues of the
virtual folder hiding real folders with the same name: that's truly a
bug).  I've used lots of IMAP clients and I've never seen one that
didn't offer some kind of Hide deleted messages by default option.
Maybe there are such out there, and if so that definitely sucks for
people forced to use them.  Also apparently there are servers that
overload the /Deleted flag for other purposes that are not compliant
with the standard, such as spam, which also sucks (of course it really
sucks that IMAP was developed without, and has not been enhanced to
provide, any support for managing spam directly).

If people want to use Evo, regardless of whether you use it by itself or
with other email clients, you have to get into the habit of expunging
regularly (not after every delete, mind you, but _regularly_).  If you
do that, then switching to a different client will be no problem.  I do
it all the time with various different webmail and other IMAP clients,
including Evo, and I never have any issues.  If you don't expunge
regularly, then nothing works well.  You can say it's Evo's fault, but
it's not really: that's the way IMAP was designed to be used and that's
the best way to use it.

All that being said, I'm definitely a fan of choice and I'd dearly love
for someone to implement a solution that lets the other side, who
can't or won't use IMAP as designed for whatever reason, have what they
want (if nothing else so we don't have to have this conversation every
few frakking 

[Bug 173350] Re: Caps lock LED changes state even when caps lock is mapped to ctrl

2008-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
All my Hardy systems still have this problem.  My one Intrepid system
doesn't.  Please be clear what release you're using when reporting
issues.

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[Bug 236871] Re: seahorse-agent won't accept ssh passphrase if stdin is /dev/null

2008-09-07 Thread Paul Smith
This is working for me in Hardy now.  Some weeks after I reported this,
it started working. Some package I updated (not sure which one) caused
it to work again.

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-07-11 Thread Paul Smith
I can also verify that this fixes the problem of extra Trash messages.

I also have to say that I haven't seen the hang issue since I applied my
changes, either.  Don't know if it's a coincidence, but I'm happy!

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-07-11 Thread Paul Smith
If the messages have stopped appearing in your logs, then the problem
you're having is clearly not related to this bug, since this bug is
about autofs .Trash requests.  Bug comments are not really the best way
to ask for help, unless it's about the bug in question.  You should
either file a bug against the package which appears to be at fault here,
which would be either Nautilus or autofs (do you get the same behavior
when you try to access the automount from the command line?  That should
tell you which package is likely at fault), or else maybe ask on the
Ubuntu user forums.

When you do find the right place to ask, be sure to give more
information about exactly which versions you're using, how your
automount maps are distributed, what they contain (for example the map
that contains the directory you're trying to access via Nautilus),
whether it happens every single time or only when the filesystem is not
mounted already (or only if you try to re-access the filesystem after
automount has unmounted it), etc.

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[Bug 212098] Re: easy file sharing not notifying about logout/login

2008-07-02 Thread Paul Smith
I understand that modifying groups requires a logout (although I've been
hacking UNIX for 20+ years and I still don't really understand why
that's true).  But it's monumentally sucky to have to log out, even if
there's some dialog that tells you you need to do it.

I don't see why nautilus-share cannot be included as part of the base
distribution so that this is not necessary.  But, if it indeed cannot
be, then maybe we should change the base package to add the sambashare
group, even though it's not used by any packages until nautilus-share is
installed.  User accounts can be added to that group as they would be
other groups, when the user account is created.  This would fix the need
to log out/in due to group updates.

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-07-01 Thread Paul Smith
Hi Sebastien; not sure what this means, to be uploaded as a hardy update
candidate... I haven't seen anything come through in my -proposed
repository.  Or is this a prelude to that?  I guess someone will update
the bug if/when the fix migrates into the repositories?

Thanks.

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-06-23 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks Etienne.  Someday I'm going to learn how to use Launchpad PPA!

As for the fix, I'll say this: first, the concept behind the patch is
unquestionably 100% correct.  As you point out, it's fundamentally wrong
to look for .Trash directories in automount points, because they aren't
real directories.  It's like trying to look for /proc/.Trash or
/sys/.Trash or something... except worse because this lookup actually
does more than just fail with ENOENT.

Second, I'm 99% sure that the patch does do what I expected it to do,
and that it works properly.  I'm definitely no expert in glib but this
change seems very straightforward.

Third, as I mentioned above I'm confident that this is not the most
elegant way to solve the problem.  However, it may be worthwhile to keep
this as an Ubuntu patch, even if upstream Gnome folks don't want to
apply it there, until they work out and implement the more elegant
solution.

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Smith
Here is a bog-simple patch I created for gvfs-0.2.4 that skips any root
directory with a filesystem type of autofs.

To my mind this is just a workaround: the real answer is that the list
of filesystem types to skip should be configurable, I presume via an
entry in gconf.  However, that involves a LOT more work in code I'm not
familiar with and this fix is easy.  This has been working for me for
the day so far: no messages in the log file.

I really wanted to do this because I've been seeing a problem where,
every few days, my system gets sluggish, NFS mounts hang, FireFox
downloads hang, etc.  I don't know what's going on (nothing much in the
logs) but the one thing all these situations have in common is when I do
ps I see 25-30 instances of gvfsd-trash running instead of one.  The
only thing concerning in the logs are these .Trash references.  I have
no other proof that these things are related but I figured I'd fix this
one and we'll see if it helps.

** Attachment added: Simple change to ignore autofs filesystem types
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[Bug 160264] Re: [nvidia] compiz displays white screen when locked

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Smith
I can confirm that when I use fast user switch with the new drivers in
hardy-proposed I don't get the white screen where I can't see the login
window.  I get a black screen with a login window visible, as expected.

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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Smith
I'm seeing this too, and something about it is causing my system to
hang.  Basically, when I come in the morning I can't do hardly anything,
including reboot.  Investigation has shown that it's because any attempt
to read the /proc/mounts file causes a permanent hang on the process
(can't even kill -9 etc.).  Lots and lots of programs, even ones like
ls, try to read this file.  I have to power-cycle the system to
recover.  My system load is above 7, even though my CPU usage is
negligible (a sure sign that processes are hung in the kernel).

Last night I started a script that ran date, then cat /proc/mounts, then
sleep 15 and left it running all night.  I got the hang at 22:51 and
looking through my logs, sure enough right at that exact time I saw a
slew of these .Trash access errors show up in my /var/log/syslog file.
I'm going to continue to test this theory to see if it was just
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[Bug 210468] Re: try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Smith
Just a comment on point (c) above: I don't think this is quite as
innocuous as you suppose.  While looking at the root of a normal
automount point for a non-existent directory (or two, in this case)
isn't so bad (except for the annoying log spam), there are various types
of maps which take any random set of characters and try to do something
with them.

For example, if you try to access /net/.Trash then (on systems where
it's enabled) a script /etc/auto.net is invoked with an argument of
.Trash as the putative hostname.  This leads to attempts to do DNS
lookups, run showmount, and other dodgy operations which, on a well-
behaved system, should still not be a major concern but are
significantly more costly than a simple directory lookup failure.

Also, some maps, commonly /home maps, avoid very long lists in their
maps by using map key substitution; so there's one entry containing a
 and whatever text is used for that, a mount request is made for that
(for example in /home/psmith  would be psmith and the mount request
would be made with that--if you try /home/.Trash then  is .Trash and
a mount request is made for that).  This can also cause problems, most
especially for the server which is constantly rejecting all these
invalid mount requests from all the hosts on the network.  It can also
cause delays if the server or network is busy.

I do agree this should be fixed: I can't think of any situation where it
would be legitimate and reasonable to have a .Trash directory in an
automount map mount point (mount point of type autofs).  Everything in
an autofs mount point is, by definition, a partition mount itself which
means that any .Trash entry would have to be a seperately mounted
partition... which means that the real trash would be in
.../.Trash/.Trash --- right?

It seems reasonable to me to actually make the fs types that gvfsd-trash
looks in be configurable, in some way.  This is a larger change of
course, but it's the common way to avoid hardcoding this stuff (for
things like slocate etc.)

If someone has a patch they would like me to test, I can do that.

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[Bug 236871] [NEW] seahorse-agent won't accept ssh passphrase if stdin is /dev/null

2008-06-02 Thread Paul Smith
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Binary package hint: seahorse

I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 with the latest proposed packages as of today:

ii  seahorse2.22.2-0ubuntu1

I have a script that uses SSH port forwarding to create a VPN tunnel
between two machines.  Since it is only for port forwarding, it doesn't
need any stdin/stdout/stderr, and I redirect all these to/from /dev/null
and put the ssh into the background.

With Gutsy and ssh-agent this works just fine.

But, in Hardy with seahorse-agent, if I have never entered my passphrase
before (which is common since the first thing I usually want to do upon
logging in is invoke the script to set up the tunnel) and seahorse-agent
asks me for my passphrase as a result of starting ssh, then when I type
it I see the dots being put into the text box, etc. and all seems
fine.  However, when I press return the passphrase is never accepted and
I just get another chance to enter my passphrase.  It will never be
accepted and I eventually have to press the Deny button to quit.  I have
typed it into a terminal as cleartext and cut and pasted it so I know I
have typed it correctly.

After some experimentation, it turns out that a /dev/null stdin is
causing this problem.  This fails to register my passphrase:

ssh -X remotehost xterm /dev/null

but this works fine:

ssh -X remotehost xterm /dev/null 21

** Affects: seahorse (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 160264] Re: [nvidia] compiz displays white screen when locked

2008-05-30 Thread Paul Smith
Chris: Yep, I know.  I was responding to dashua's post saying it was
fixed, by pointing out that it may now work properly for some situations
but that doesn't mean it's fixed.  Cheers!

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[Bug 160264] Re: [nvidia] compiz displays white screen when locked

2008-05-29 Thread Paul Smith
See comment #57 for a way to reproduce this which doesn't use the
screensaver; I believe that method still shows the bug.

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[Bug 160264] Re: [nvidia] compiz displays white screen when locked

2008-05-28 Thread Paul Smith
Since this bug is marked fixed released, is there another bug tracking
the remaining problems with nvidia drivers?  I know we can't solve them
but it seems like we should have an open bug about this until nvidia
releases fixed drivers (as Chris points out, that could be a long ways
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[Bug 231898] Re: evolution-exchange-storage SIGABRT

2008-05-22 Thread Paul Smith
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 215904 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/215904

This is really a bug in openldap which is causing lots of ldap-based
apps to fail.  There is more info in ubuntu bug #215904

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 215904
   (ITS#5518) Assertion error in io.c:234: ber_flush2

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[Bug 135471] Re: Addressbook crash when searching contacts by any field contains

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Smith
I've built the latest Evo from SVN and I have no problems with this
search, in both my personal address book and the Exchange Contacts
address book.  I've tried it with searches that match only a few of my
entries, and also with searches that match none of my entries, and no
crash.  So, it's been fixed in SVN at any rate.

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[Bug 135471] Re: Addressbook crash when searching contacts by any field contains

2007-10-29 Thread Paul Smith
This bug has been fixed in the upstream trunk last week:

http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/evolution-data-
server?view=revisionrevision=8157

FYI.  Maybe this fix can be backported to the current Gutsy version of
evolution-data-server.

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[Bug 147506] Re: Gutsy: Autocomplete fails for multiple addressees

2007-10-18 Thread Paul Smith
I personally think the importance of this bug should be greater than
low.  This is (IMO) an extremely serious regression/loss of
functionality and deserves to be fixed via a patch in Gutsy.  The fix
has been released in Evo 2.12.1.  I don't know if there are any plans to
upgrade to a completely new version like this (traditionally Ubuntu
hasn't done that although exceptions have been made IIRC), but at the
very least this fix should be backported.

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[Bug 120248] Need update to Gnome 2.18.2

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

On 20 May 2007 the Gnome desktop update 2.18.2 was released.  However,
there has been no corresponding update to the Gnome packages in Ubuntu
7.04.  I've noticed that past releases (with the exception of the 6.06
LTS release) seem to not package Gnome updates.

There are some important bugfixes to applications I rely on every day
(such as Evolution) in the update; does the Ubuntu team intend to
provide packages for the Gnome update releases?  Is there some kind of
policy on this documented somewhere?

** Affects: gnome-desktop (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 120248] Re: Need update to Gnome 2.18.2

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Smith
I'm sure Gutsy will ship with Gnome 2.20.  As I understood it that was
one of the reasons Ubuntu releases when it does; they try to release as
soon as feasible after a new Gnome release.

On the one hand I can certainly understand the position of not wanting
to destabilize the existing release.  On the other hand, the Gnome .x
updates often fix bugs that are quite annoying, if not critical, and
they're especially important for applications which have not yet
stabilized completely (such as, as mentioned, the Evolution Exchange
plugin).  I guess I was assuming/hoping that the Gnome updates would be
fairly simple bug fixes and would NOT contain major functionality
improvements, incompatible changes, etc. (and associated potential
breakage), and so they would be reasonable to add as an update.
However, I guess you guys have had problems with this in the past?

I guess this is the downside of releasing right after the Gnome release:
it gets the NEW release of Gnome into users' hands quickly, but if
Ubuntu doesn't follow up with the update releases you're leaving
somewhat buggy software on everyone's desktop... and if this happens for
every release then we never get a stable desktop with the most serious
bugs resolved; we just jump to the next .0 or .1 release, with another,
different batch of serious bugs.


I wonder if this is anything to be discussed with the Gnome folks.  I think 
Ubuntu, with its release cycle, is one of the premier movers behind Gnome these 
days and it seems like there should be able to be some sort of consensus on the 
purpose and expected quality of the point updates.

I did check out the backports page but they seemed pretty firm that they
were only backporting individual packages and NOT entire systems (like
Gnome).

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[Bug 91637] Re: Evolution displays wrong time after new dst

2007-03-12 Thread Paul Smith
It's hard for me to believe that after all the hype this has been given,
there are still no updates to solve these problems for either Edgy or
(as far as I can tell) even for Dapper.

I realize it's the worst sort of drain bamage that Evo implements its
own timezone management instead of just using the system defaults, but
that's what we have and Ubuntu needs to work with it.

What's the holdup here folks?

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[Bug 58368] Re: Alert notification not shown in window list for apps in other desktops

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Smith
I still see this in both my Dapper and my Edgy systems, just as
reported.

If SJ is extracting on the current workspace, but is not selected, when
the extract ends SJ will send an alert and the window list icon on the
panel with throb.

However, when SJ is on a different workspace no indication at all is
given that the extract has ended; no throbbing etc.  I can look very
carefully at the workspace switcher and see the outline of the tiny
little dialog window that SJ pops up when it's done, but nothing else
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[Bug 58368] Alert notification not shown in window list for apps in other desktops

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-panel

I'm using Ubuntu 6.06.1, with window list applet 2.14.3.  I _believe_
this is a bug in the window list applet but it could be somewhere
else...

I prefer to see all my windows for all desktops in my window list, so I
use the window list Preferences to enable Show windows from all
workspaces.

Now, when I get an alert from a window which is on my current workspace
the window representation in the window list throbs light and dark--
cool!

However, when I get an alert from a window which is on some other
workspace, I don't get any alert--not cool :-(.

Currently I'm seeing this in Sound Juicer: when I use Extract to rip
one of my CDs, SJ will publish an alert when it's done so if I'm in the
same workspace but without SJ selected I see the alert... but I'm always
always off working in another workspace and so I don't get the alert.

If someone has changed their preference for window list to Show windows
from all workspaces, they should get alerts for all windows in all
workspaces as well.

** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 57941] Re: [edgy] sound-juicer parses musicbrainz data like freedb data

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
This also happens for soundtracks, etc.  I've added another comment to
the upstream bug.

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[Bug 23828] Re: GDM init script has weird line (breaks it for me)

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Smith
I can reproduce this, but ONLY during installation from the LiveCD.
Also, my testing was with Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS ISO image.

What happened: I write the above ISO to CD and tried to boot with it.
The detected video driver (ati) does not work on my system for
whatever reason, so X failed to start and I eventually got a console
prompt.  I used ps and determined that GDM was still running.  I ran
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then used ps again and determined GDM was
STILL running.  No matter how many times I ran it, GDM was never
stopped.  If I used kill on it, it stopped immediately.

I ran sudo /bin/sh -x /etc/init.d/gdm stop and discovered that start-
stop-daemon was being invoked with the --exec flag (that is, SSD_ARG was
set to --exec /usr/sbin/gdm).  This did not seem to work.  If I ran
start-stop-daemon by hand, using the same command line but leaving out
the --exec, it worked fine and GDM was stopped.

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[Bug 57347] Option to save session settings is missing at logout

2006-08-22 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:

I believe the log out button and the dialog it creates is managed by
gnome-panel, right?  If not please let me know where to file this.

I'm using Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (standard install).

In past Gnome releases the logout panel has had a checkbox that allows
you to save your session at logout time.  That checkbox is missing in
this release, and it never asks with a separate dialog, so there's no
easy way to save your session!

If I open System - Preferences - Sessions I see that Ask on logout
_is_ checked (but yet there is no query on logout).

The only way I can see to save a session is to check the Automatically
save session box, then log out, then log back in and go back to the
Sessions dialog and uncheck it again.

** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Untriaged
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-17 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug report changed:
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Comment:
Yes, I've used the method described in the ubuntuforums to build a
patched version with  dpkg-rebuild and it does work: alarms show up
properly.

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
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Comment:
Check this thread from the Ubuntu forums:

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-93128.html

Refers to this patch, posted to the evolution-patches mailing list:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-
patches/2005-November/msg00010.html

This was apparently committed as a fix to Gnome bug # 316710

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
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Bug watches changed:
+ Bug 316710 [GNOME Bug Tracker]

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
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- Changed attachments:
Added: patch to fix evolution alarms
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/1735677/evolution-alarm.patch

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Smith
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Comment:
I'd dearly love to have this fixed in Breezy: to me it's a very critical
bug in Evolution functionality if alarms don't work!  I've read 2-3
people saying the patch fixed their problems right up and no one has
complained about it... it seems solid.

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-14 Thread Paul Smith
Public bug reported:
https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/34966

Affects: evolution (Ubuntu)
   Severity: Normal
   Priority: (none set)
 Status: Unconfirmed

Description:
No matter where I create my alarms (either in my Personal calendar or in
my Exchange calendar) I don't get any notification.  In previous
versions of Evolution, this worked great and I would get a dialog pop up
at a preset time before the appointment (I set this to 5 minutes).
Without this feature I might as well use the Open Web Access feature of
Exchange; Evolution is not giving me anything extra (and it's pretty
buggy in general).

I definitely do have the box asking for an alarm to be checked, both in
the general preferences AND in the specific appointment.  I also have my
system on all the time, and running Evolution all the time, so it's not
anything to do with not generating alarms that went by while the system
was off.  I can create an appointment to happen in a few minutes, in any
of my calendars, and never get the alarm.

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-14 Thread Paul Smith
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Comment:
This is evolution-2.4.1-0ubuntu7 in breezy, BTW.  All Breezy versions of
Evo I've used have the same behavior.

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[Bug 34966] Alarms do not work in Evolution

2006-03-14 Thread Paul Smith
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Comment:
Also, using ps I can see that /usr/lib/evolution/2.4/evolution-alarm-
notify is running.  It just never seems to do anything.

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