[Bug 393158] Re: There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename
I filed the bug in bugzilla.gnome.org: it's here https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593410 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #593410 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593410 -- There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename
@Pedro Villavicencio: I was about to enter the bug in bugzilla, but I was puzzled by the choice of the piece of software under which the bug has to be filed, that seems to be mandatory. May you tell me where should I put it?? Thank you! :-) -- There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename
@Sebastien Bacher: As Mac_v already said, the problem is that not everybody knows that / marks a subdirectory. Actually, an average user isn't even supposed to know that he is allowed to type the entire filepath in a box called "Name" . I myself wasn't aware of it for a long time, so I think that an informative warning about what you can and what you cannot put in there would be precious. -- There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename
** Description changed: - When the user tries to save a file from the "Save" option , and Inputs labels containing "/" he is warned with the following error message: - "The folder contents could not be displayed" - "Error stating file '/xx/a': No such file or directory" + When the user tries to save a file from the "Save" option and Inputs + labels containing "/" nothing happens, the "Save" dialog remains opened + and he is not warned with an error message. - An average user cannot understand this, Since the user is not informed + An average user cannot understand this, since the user is not informed of what mistake he has done! Papercut solution: - A much more appropriate dialogue is needed: + An appropriate dialogue is needed: "File names cannot contain "/" " "If you intend to save the file in a folder "xx", First Create folder "xx" in the location" - [Old description] - When the user types a filename, if he puts a forbidden symbol (like "/" for example) in the name, when clicking on the "Save" button there's a really obscure message coming out: instead of saying "one or more character you have typed are not admitted" , or "the symbol "/" is not admitted in a file name", it says (approximately, I'm translating from the italian version) "THE FOLDER'S CONTENT CANNOT BE VISUALIZED: error in executing stat of file /home/john/Desktop/xx : no file or directory". -- I tried with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp, and they all have the same behaviour. The only one to give the correct response has been Nautilus which told me that "/" is - not allowed. I made the tests on two PCs running Jaunty and on a virtual - machine running Karmic. + not allowed. I made the tests on a virtual machine running Karmic Alpha + 2 updated to 07/05/09. - - However, my opinion is that the message that shows when the typed path is incorrect is not useful for those who don't already know the mechanism: that would consequently compromise usability. - I think it would be useful to replace the present message with something like "The path you have typed is not correct: please check the directory tree" , or "The "/" symbol can be only used to head to a subdirectory, not in a filename: if you wanted to set a subdirectory for your file, please check the directory tree". - - - I think this is very confusing for the newcomer: if it's easily fixable, it should be fixed in Karmic. + I think this is very confusing for the newcomer: if it's easily fixable, + it should be fixed in Karmic. -- There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename
** Summary changed: - Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename + There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename -- There is no warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol (/) in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
@Mac_v: things are getting more confusing somehow... I reinstalled Karmic (Alpha 2) and I updated it just today, and now it behaves like you said in your fist post. I get *no feedback at all*. I'm updating the description. -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
@Mac_v: sure I don't mind, it is better explained now! And, the message in the screenshot is the same I got on my PC; and I was running Karmic Alpha2 so maybe that was the point. As soon as I'll have the system running I'm going to test the difference between "Save" and "Save as". -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
@mac_v: I repeated the tests on Karmic and the feedback it gave is the same it was on Jaunty. I'm trying to figure out why you didn't have any warning message but my karmic installation broke, so I can't do anything until I have some time to fix it... more feedback to come, bye :-) -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
** Description changed: When the user types a filename, if he puts a forbidden symbol (like "/" for example) in the name, when clicking on the "Save" button there's a really obscure message coming out: instead of saying "one or more character you have typed are not admitted" , or "the symbol "/" is not admitted in a file name", it says (approximately, I'm translating from the italian version) "THE FOLDER'S CONTENT CANNOT BE VISUALIZED: error in executing stat of file /home/john/Desktop/xx : no file or directory". - I tried with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp, and they all have the same behaviour. The only one to give the correct response has been Nautilus which told me that "/" is not allowed. I made the tests on two PCs, both running Jaunty. + I tried with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp, and they all have the same behaviour. The only one to give the correct response has been Nautilus which told me that "/" is not allowed. I made the tests on two PCs running Jaunty and on a virtual machine running Karmic. However, my opinion is that the message that shows when the typed path is incorrect is not useful for those who don't already know the mechanism: that would consequently compromise usability. I think it would be useful to replace the present message with something like "The path you have typed is not correct: please check the directory tree" , or "The "/" symbol can be only used to head to a subdirectory, not in a filename: if you wanted to set a subdirectory for your file, please check the directory tree". I think this is very confusing for the newcomer: if it's easily fixable, it should be fixed in Karmic. -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
@mac_v: I know that this really a *minor* bug; anyway, it is quite easy to encounter and even easier to "fix", I suppose. That's why I posted it here: I apologise for the wrong approach, I'm downloading Karmic now to repeat the test. -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
** Description changed: When the user types a filename, if he puts a forbidden symbol (like "/" for example) in the name, when clicking on the "Save" button there's a really obscure message coming out: instead of saying "one or more character you have typed are not admitted" , or "the symbol "/" is not admitted in a file name", it says (approximately, I'm translating from the italian version) "THE FOLDER'S CONTENT CANNOT BE VISUALIZED: error in executing stat of file /home/john/Desktop/xx : no file or directory". - I tried with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp, and they all have the same behaviour. The only one to give the correct response has been Nautilus which told me that "/" is not allowed. + I tried with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp, and they all have the same behaviour. The only one to give the correct response has been Nautilus which told me that "/" is not allowed. I made the tests on two PCs, both running Jaunty. However, my opinion is that the message that shows when the typed path is incorrect is not useful for those who don't already know the mechanism: that would consequently compromise usability. I think it would be useful to replace the present message with something like "The path you have typed is not correct: please check the directory tree" , or "The "/" symbol can be only used to head to a subdirectory, not in a filename: if you wanted to set a subdirectory for your file, please check the directory tree". I think this is very confusing for the newcomer: if it's easily fixable, it should be fixed in Karmic. -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
@ Sebastien Bacher: it is very easily reproducible (it's rather a usability imperfection than a software bug). You just need to create a new file (as I said above, I've tried this with Openoffice.org, Gedit, Archive manager, Brasero, Sound recorder and Gimp and they all had the same behaviour) and then give it a name containing a (/). It will appear a dialog saying THE FOLDER CONTENTS COULD NOT BE DISPLAYED: Error stating file 'home/ale/x' : no such file or directory I think that such a message is misleading, as I said above (I have to admit that I myself didn't understand is meaning until Ilya B came). It should be easy to find a more user-friendly sentence! Thank you for your great job with Ubuntu -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 393158] Re: Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename
Yes, I'm actually talking about that dialog; your explanation is correct, and I'm aware that the behaviour I describe has a reason to be. However, my opinion is that the message that shows when the typed path is incorrect is not useful for those who don't already know the mechanism: that would consequently compromise usability. I think it would be useful to replace the present message with something like "The path you have typed is not correct: please check the directory tree" , or "The "/" symbol can be only used to head to a subdirectory, not in a filename: if you wanted to set a subdirectory for your file, please check the directory tree". What do you think?? -- Incoherent warning message when inserting a forbidden symbol in filename https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/393158 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
