[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
Time will tell. I feel quite good about the contribution I'm making, but
you're entitled to disagree. I'm sure you have a complete perspective on
the many things that I do, and therefor are in a good position to make
that judgment.

Mark

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Sarcasm isn't going to help your issue here. There are a lot of very excellent
points and perspectives all up and down this thread, against putting the 
buttons on the left. 
If you value Canonical's credibility at all, then your line about "We're 
interested in data which 
could influence the ultimate decision." won't be just transparent placating. 
Hopefully, for your sake
and the community's sake, you'll follow through on this.

It's saddening that you apparently do not have any problem whatsoever using an 
LTS release for UI/UX experimentation.
Why not have a testing branch like Debian does? But of course, you're too busy 
trying to beat companies
on who's radars Canonical doesn't even appear. It's quite bizarre.

It baffles me to no end, that you would get so pouty about the community's 
reactions to
such a monumental change in UI/UX. We're not all fanboys and praise singers, 
you know? Deal with it.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
@Pablo Quiros, I wish YOU were the Community Manager. Excellent post.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
The fact that requests for valid reasons for this drastic change is
perpetually met with such childish defensiveness, just goes to show that
there wasn't any "design team" who came up with this. Order from above.
In true dictator fashion.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
I believe everyone has the right to comment on the issues at hand but if you 
cant think up a reason against it other than
A. "Im not used to it"
B. "Its not like how windows does it"
C. Misquoting fitts law
then you shouldnt comment at all. Trolling and repeating the same reasons isnt 
at all helpful.

A. where in this thread did I say that?
B. where in this thread did I say that?
C. where in this thread did I do that?

Let me tell you something, my friend. If lies and backtracking are the only way 
for you to defend this fiasco,
then probably it is you who is the troll.

You ask for reasons against moving the window buttons? How about reasons
FOR it? other than Shuttleworth's vague hand-waving at experiments for
10.10?

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
"I have the feeling that 99.9% of users dont feel strongly about this
issue either way."

"Oh and just a note, quoting polls is completely useless because unless
its taken from a controlled group the results are always biased."

Are the poll results as biased as your "feelings", man? Comic stuff,
that there. At least the community ran a poll. How about canonical?

Tell you what's going to happen over the next month or two. You'll have
a huge portion, people like fewt and I, who will no longer be using
Ubuntu, and will no longer endorse or recommend it. You'll have a huge
portion of people who'll simply fork ubuntu and bring that thing back to
the community, because they take the "humanity to others" thing quite
seriously, and are not just in it for the buck, like Shuttleworth, who
basically bastardized the true Ubuntu spirit for corporate gain
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29).

And then you'll be left with a dwindling group of less and less
convinced fanboys. It's happened to other projects, and Canonical's put
Ubuntu in a cloudified sports car in the fast lane to that very same
destination.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-18 Thread dayo
Maybe Shuttleworth should let his Communitizer handle this, if he can't
keep his cool among the very community he claims this purple OS is
about? Very unbecoming to lose your temper like that. Even for a
dictator.

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