[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Avetik Topchyan wrote: >IMHO, that has to be configured through GUI, like other settings, and not a >through a terminal command. Why make life harder >than it should be?.. "Ubuntu Tweak" can be found, quickly, in the Software-Center. Life can be so easy ... ;-) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
In Germany the feedback about the new LTS is very very positve. Most of the users, not Alpha- Beta-testers are surrprised about the fast, very fast booting and exited about the new and modern Design. Only a low percent in the forums etc. (~ 2-5%) is worry about the new Design or about the position of the buttons. Lamentations about Bugs and the most Hardware don't work "out the box" is very low and not the same drama like in Karmic it was. Lucid is well received here. This is my observation. I remember that in the past it was quite horrible to read always, after every new Ubuntu-Release, that the colors (old Brand) is terrible and it's looking old (bad). Now I read sometimes, somewhere that some peoples liked more the old Human-Theme, but it's only a big minority. The mayority is glad about the new look and feel. Thumbs down for the design-team, what I read some posts before, is really not fair. If you look exactly, you will see the sensibility and good ideas they but in "it". It's normal that peoples haves different tastes: so some peoples like it flat, glossy, outlined, bright, dark, round, modern, comicstyle ... It's impossible to make them all happy. But in my opinion the design-team did something beautiful and modern. It's the first lap of more and more improvements. I give here a clear thumbs up for the design-team and a big "Thank you"! A big "Thanks" to M. Shuttleworth and the whole team. They made all in all a great work. About the buttons: No sinking Titanic here. It isn't a bug, only a decision. At last, but not least: Ubuntu is M.Shuttleworh's Baby. ... thank you for reading. Now I am going to play with my new, fresh installed Lucid Lynx. See you in a new case or new life. :-) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
I did updates since Beta1 and I don't have this feature what is shown in the attached screenshot. But now I see that it exists and probably I have to do a fresh install with the final release for get it working finally. But seeing that, everything should be fine now, for everybody!? ** Attachment added: "Appearance_Pref.jpg" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45330207/Appearance_Pref.jpg -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
I say "yes"... and I see that always more and more peoples are agreed with left. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ bt90: No I think it isn't a good idea. At moment it would be cool, but if the new feature (10.10) will be included we have a problem... you can't reach the new feature-stuff. ,) A button or a ratio-button for change the side is easier to realize and would be a solution for everybody. For me it's perfect how it is now, but I can't think only what I like... -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Paul Sladen: Thank you for your professional correction. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
sudo gedit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/index.theme sudo gedit /usr/share/themes/Radiance/index.theme 1. ButtonLayout=close,minimize,maximize: (default) 2. ButtonLayout=close,minimize,maximize:menu(my setting) 3. ButtonLayout=:maximize,minimize,close (I want it on right - finish! >) 4. ButtonLayout=menu:maximize,minimize,close (1. - 4. are your possibilities) "save" --- This is a work for 5 minutes and than it's fix. You can change to different themes and if you come back to Ambiance/Radiance you get always your favorite appearance ... In gconf your change get lost; with this it's fix... till the next light-themes-upgrade, of course! But after the Final (29.April) I don't think there will come so much light- themes-updates. Hope it is a help for peoples they really want have them on the right side. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
In a LTS for custom peoples to use them left - show them that Ubuntu have a new Brand with a new design (CHANGE). Top-Arguments for left are: - Gnome 3 (Commando-Bar and Activity are on the left) - new feature arrives in the perfect 10 (10.10) - shorter mouseways after a short training - it looks better Top-Arguments for right are: - consistence with the close-buttons on tabs etc. - it's like Windows - peoples comes normally from Windows or use it in their Job. But really! If you want change the buttons to the right, you don't need a terminal or have to play with the gconf-editor! You can do the this change quickly with the theme-appearance-editor. Only choose for example "Clearlooks" - click on the button "Adjust.." - choose as theme Ambiance/Radiance - go to the Window-Tab and choose Ambiance/Radiance -- leave/finish. I never understand why it's so a polemic thematic!? Honestly, I am happy that Mark took that decision and go straightly and seriously with the new slogan "Change". -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
I still not sure about the order. The big points of the initial-order was: 1. unique - own face 2. consistence with the close-buttons in the tabs for example (right side) 3. you have to look a second for it (search for it a little bit) before closing ... time for thinking: "you want close really!" Move them to the left was a good decision: I. It looks awesome II. less pushing the mouse to one and other side of the screen III. It doesn't looks Windows-like IV. free place for put a new feature The new order isn't bad at all, but I feel a little bit better with reverse them to the initial-order. Even Mark said he liked the old order much ... maybe we have a change for a new change. :-D -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
mouth (sorry) @Bob Yes with Windows... My first Computer was an Amiga and it was different. It was bad? Nop! You will wonder the quick you can change customs. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
"(in case anyone asks: Why am I still posting here if I've moved to Debian? Well, I'm in the lifeboat just watching the Titanic sink is all.)" distrowatch.com It's rising ... after publishing Lucid, it still will growing. No Titanic here! Why? Because Ubuntu is cleaning up the ***old*** dust and is the only one with a shiny, modern look. This is what peoples are ***looking for***, apart stability, good selection of applications, nice features like the new indicators etc. Debian and Fedora are nice, but it doesn't look attractive enough for the new generation folk outside. Ubuntu finally did a radical and very important change... the ***eyes*** eats together with the mound. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Jeff: (Data and Gnome3) See my data if you got accustomed to work with the buttons on left #489. I let the mouse, if I am working in the center and left. You will notice shorter mouseways simply, because all important actions happens on the left-side. About Gnome3: All is important is on the left-side, too. We have to learn only to let/rest the mouse on left and you will notice that you're working faster. But already I am saying that Ambiance and Radiance will have a quick option for change the position. The rest of the themes is right as usual. I thing you are only worried and see ghost where no are ... -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Jeff: "A "minor" change that hardly affected me at all, it's had a 100% negative (sometimes violent) reaction from 20 users I've polled." I don't understand!? You updated to Lucid "Beta1" in your company? It's still not for productive work. In the final you will have the option for putting them to the right quickly [Ambiance and Radiance]. I think peoples still lost energy and anger for nothing. Here is a plan for this action ... and if you open your mind and you would listen what was said all you will see the "light". -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Slowly, slowly. I am not a IT-Specialist, but even me I know that every new Version has to been 'patched' before it's going out. It's always a lot of work and always the same thing. Before it goes out it have to be tested (... but in Alpha and Beta I'm not always sure they do :). And now I come to the point! We know that Gnome 2.30 was always planed for Lucid. Since two days it's freshly out. Surely they are 'patching' now. All features will be included there: the patches we have right now and the "+"-patches. It don't makes sense to insert more energy in 2.29, right? It's logical. I wouldn't shout loud now; better wait and see ... patience. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
# 588 ... and it's not Piko, but Pako -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ pYramid: I didn't win, so my argument about unique has gone. I liked the initial 'order' more, because IT was so unique and you had to think a little bit before you want close the windows really! ... meanwhile you looked for the red point. Your last comment was "sweet". "Dude, what is written on my back?", "Sweet". :-D @ Mark: Thank you for ALL. The opposite will always exist... but don't look back, always forward, don't rest. This button-issue will clam with time and this thematic will go to the forgotten. Bye -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Pyramid: :-D Radical decisions from a heart-broken man. I look forward... send me a postcard if I was right. Cheers PD: Don't forget "sudo"; better is the partition-manager from the new Live-CD. ;) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
not a own face finally, but surely a good marketing-gag :) The light-theme fits to the modern Icons very well and the hardest bugs has gone... now it's only fine-tuning. The new Indicators on Panel and only the better Software-Center makes Ubuntu to the best choose for the next generation-folks. For me it's a big step forward... gratulation. But like always... time will tell... @Pyramid: I am sure you will come back. Trust me.. all indicates for it. ;) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Piramid :) I will link out here. I don't wont have here a only 3-man-threat. We have a completely different way to see the stuff. I respect it, but it's not mine. bye -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Webster: " + - X " ... " ^ v X " ... " [ ] _ X " is obviously the same and the most used symbols I saw over the last years in Windows-decorations in gnome-look.org for example. "^" means simply: up - bigger - grow "v" means oviously: down - small - minimize The next is the design-issue... put "v" and "^" together and you will get a "X". It contains more consistency than " + - X " ... " [ ] _ X " if we look critical over it. Last but not least ... Imagine that " [ ] _ X " in a round button. You think it will looks fine? But it's true. " ^ v X " is the first time I see in a default theme. Peoples who aren't familiar in changing the default-look will have to accustom to this new kind of symbols (for them), too. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Wrong Pyramid. Microsoft will include a new feature, because it's really better and if they are unsure the will insert a option for redo this change to old habits. The same happens here. We have a change, but you are always free to redo it if you wish it. The mistakes of Microsoft are that they made very complex changes ... this isn't the case here. In Germany we say: "don't convert a mosquito to a elephant!" ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Work with Windows @ work and work with Ubuntu @ home it's not stringent necessary to put them on the right. I have to respect that it's confusing for some peoples, mostly for elder persons, okay. At other side there are many peoples in the world who can handle it easily. They say maybe, like me: "hey Windows is this kind, Ubuntu is that kind - Finish." The most important reason is that Ubuntu get something different and gains a new own identity at the first sight. The next, I am curios, is what the new feature will be in 10.10. For this it's necessary to put them left as default and let peoples change it easily to right if they prefer that more. First step for accustom ... Right as default in Lucid, what you prefer, isn't a enough clear message for the folk outside. And we have to begin with the training now ... ,) @ Mike: No frustrating... said this from James, it will come. Wait... I am updating right now. Maybe it's inside?! -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ last inscribers: right click on screen - click on "change appearance and background" - choose the theme-tab - choose a theme like "Dust" ... have fun with right. Ambiance and Radiance have a unique good look with left. I am associating Ubuntu with left - max,min,close now. Would be sad to lose this WIN ... Make perhaps a right-buttons version of the light-themes (no default) and everybody will be happy. Peoples can accustom for 10.10, 11.04, ... ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Steve it's a nice work you did. But is IOGraphica do the same with the heats, is more exactly (continuous and not every 5 seconds) and show the ways you did with the mouse. But in the end it's maybe a good script for a long time data collect. So I think it's great, too. Thanks. Maybe a notice with the attached picture like: "buttons left, heats 5 hours, left since 1 week." would be nice for a complete data-collecting. More details ... more datas you win from it. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
After Mark S. clear statement we got here only comments of peoples they can't stop crying. It's so, because they know that Mark S. is here and is reading the comments. I hope that this exploitation will stop now and we will get here ***only*** clear datas from the key-peoples. Thanks. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
I have the good impression that Lucid will be a big success. It's the beautifulest and full with great features (Ubuntu's Indicator-Applets, Music-Store, Software-Center, ...) Distro far and wide in the Linux- World. Since Karmic I love the good progress Ubuntu is going. Even Windows 7 looks now worst than the new Lucid which will come out soon. I saw the good critics in the press and everybody is excited. Other good effect is that a part of the horrible conservative part of the community will leave us, because they can't accept changes and progress. A part will go... many new users will come. Now it's time for changes and improving the situation from the Bug #1. Happy. from "Pyramid Technologies": "I just downloaded and tried the latest Lucid" Wow. I point it out.. simply. ;-) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
28 minutes of shorter mouseways with the control-buttons left. I do my usual work with the new adopt habits.?field.comment=28 minutes of shorter mouseways with the control-buttons left. I do my usual work with the new adopt habits. ** Attachment added: "IOGraphica (Scholli) - 28 minutes (from 19-25 to 19-53).png" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42193876/IOGraphica%20%28Scholli%29%20-%2028%20minutes%20%28from%2019-25%20to%2019-53%29.png -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
No Pietro. The custom-themes haves now the possibility to do their themes with the control-buttons on the left or the right (look down). The rest of the themes have it on the right, because they was made for it and they looks better this way. --- index.theme [Desktop Entry] Type=X-GNOME-Metatheme Name=Ambiance Comment=Ubuntu Ambiance theme Encoding=UTF-8 [X-GNOME-Metatheme] GtkTheme=Ambiance MetacityTheme=Ambiance IconTheme=ubuntu-mono-dark CursorTheme=DMZ-White ButtonLayout=maximize,minimize,close: < !!! -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Scaine What you think it's spam from me are only my intents for opening the mind, see the stuff from another angle (point) and show that most of the arguments don't haves the gravity they looks like at first moment. This threat is a meeting form "I am against it"-folk and I am in mission to give it a little bit paroli (to give sb. as good as one gets). I think it's a good marketing-gag, it contains usability-improvements and gives Ubuntu simply a new identity. I know I don't get many friends here in this threat, but I am talking for the peoples who like it so and even wish it very much the change stay. They don't know about this threat, because they don't have the need to search for it... and they don't know it's all in danger. ;) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Bernhard: Wow, true. This was a really good idea what they did with the Metacity- update. If Grandma likes it on the right, so she can switching in a simple the theme... "Dust" for example. ;) I thing it's a good compromise - like it. This could calm the most of the present inscribers here in this list, no? Maybe a Ambiance-left (default) and a Ambiance- right is a idea from me. What about that? -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Besides... I saw in the Ubuntu-Forum in Germany that the Threat about the new button-placing is poor in visits and comments. The Offtopic- Lucid-Threat are many voices that peoples loves the new look and way. I don't thing that the whole world is against that. And who's against, can change the opinion ... I wouldn't care much about it. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
"Don't change things for the sake of change, or to differentiate. Make changes because they make improvements. (as I said before, no one would just changes the order of throttle and brake in a car, without a very good reason)" I think differentiate is important. Every OS should have his own identity and not be a habits-clone of Windows. This change is a improvement or you didn't noticed that? You don't miss brakes in functionality and you have to move the mouse less. About your car-example: Better cars (Sprot-Cars, expensive Cars) moved the gearshifts to the steering wheel. ;-) More arguments for left: Gnome 3 is a radical change, the buttons not a bit. Grandma will return to windows or she have to learn a little bit. Changes is usual stuff in life! Gnome 3 have all "important" stuffs on the left side! touch. Apple slogan is: "Think different ..." and obviously it means "be unique!" Hey and they have real success with it. It's the simple truth that we have here a very conservative part of a community who is boycott and brake every change and avoid simple the progress. But okay put the buttons on the right and we are moving senseless to left-right-left-right... and Ubuntu follows the Winodws-Way without own identity. Poor stuff, I know... -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Pyramid Technologies What a nonsense. In what relations you can put together the Vista-fail with the buttons? 1. you are sure the majority want it? You want it. Peoples who didn't tried it for a long period will say firstly "no". But this statement is generally not fair. 2. this is a fair point. 3. :O Joke? Why you did this provocations? Why did you say this rubbish? For throw nonsense-wood in the fire? You think this will resolve your wish and the fear about that nonsense you said will put the buttons to the right place immediately? Be fair and mature, please. The statement form Mark S. was clearly. He is looking for value datas. finsih. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Data form User Scholli: (male, 35 years, right-hand) 1. Mouse-position: Before the change I had the buttons always on the right. The mouse was generally on the right side. But actions like save, open etc. let me moving the mouse from right to left and back again - automaticly. Now after ~ 2 weeks work with the buttons on left: With time I get changed my habits (beginning the second or third day). I leave the mouse after scrolling with the scrollbar on the right half of the screen. If I am using tabs, actions on the toolbar or using the menu, control-buttons I let the mouse in the left part; almost near the last action. If I have to change something like tabs or save quickly.. even close the window, the mouse is near and I have to move only slightly. If I am working with Karmic on my Netbook (sorry, no Remix) and I feel stupid now about the long ways I have to do with the Touch-pad from right to left and back. I noticed that left makes my life faster and easier. For that I am a big Fan of this change. 2. Accidentally clicks: It's a short history. No. Okay the menu don't have a hover when the mouse is over them. But the toolbar-icons have and the control-buttons will have. The last update from the light-themes made Max and Min hover well. Close can be improved more for getting a better visual signal. This signals are avoiding clicks on the wrong button and it's a visual quick mark of that what you want click. It happens quickly and without thinking. All as usual. Opinion: It's a little stuff, but it improved, for me, a lot of the usability. I never knew about it. In the first days I was against and asked me what is the sense of this? But I changed my opinion about it quickly. Apart of that I noticed that Ubuntu get a own face. Okay it's left like Appels MacOS X haves, but it's different. I am agree with the idea to start with it now (LTS) and I give this change a +1 (Pro). PD: My dates are honest and true. I hope the rest will do the same. I hope too that I can leave this threat from now for ever, finally ... :-) I was participating here a lot of, because Ubuntu imports me much. Cheers -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Clicking on the menu?! (I saw it in the linked forum). But what bad precision, really. wow. The distance is far enough. If the control- buttons haves finally hover- and pushing-functionality you see clear! you are over the buttons and not over the menu. Have it all near together (menu, toolbar-buttons, tabs, important bookmarks.. ) [all in the same range] is not bad. It's a feature ... it's shorter mouseway. If the decision will be left, so we have to understand that the free space on right will be reserved for a new feature which will come in 10.10. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
In my opinion the most are more nightmares than value arguments. I am tester and since Alpha 3 I am using Lucid with all default from home. Than the new Brand come and I had the buttons left. I was surprised, but I gave it a change. Till today I haven't noticed any contra- productivity, inconsistence or other problems. It's simply on the left. It's all. I like the idea of looking different than Mac, Windows or even other Distros. In this form I never saw the buttons. The next positive surprise was that I am moving less the mouse. But everybody haves different opinions of that. Nobody knows really how much peoples are pro and how much are in contra. The easiest would be to put it to the right and forget all about. This would be a great pity, because we lose directly the change of give Ubuntu a new face and identity in this little detail. (KDE/Gnome works different than Windows - why the buttons must be same like in Windows). So my hopes are that Canonical is doing a scientific test separately and get the award they need for the final decision. This threat owns more opinions than value datas. That's fact. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
I am out of here, too. I see the bug is in progress now - so the developers has collected enough datas. Let's see how the final decision will be. :-) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Weare: But the close-button on the Firefox-tabs and Google-Chrome (Chromium) -tabs are on the right. Like the close-button in the control-buttons-bar on the Metacity; it's on the right, too. Where is the inconsistency, please? It's on the left, but it isn't a Mac-Clone, because the order is different. The close-button is in the end (right) and is nearly impossible to click on it accidentally - the signal-color is red and even for color-blind peoples see the different [contrast] between Max, MIn and Close. I say nearly impossible, because users with touchpads, old mouses and elder peoples without gesture precision can click bad accidentally. But this can happen to you maybe if you have them on the right side, too. Important "datas" you want lost in any case, because the applications will pop-up a security-ask-window before leaving it totally. Unfortunately this are only points I am thinking. Would be nice to hear something from the chefs. :) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Peoples are thinking what that new feature can be in 10.10!? And I found this idea in a forum (mock-up made by tawk): http://media.ubuntuusers.de/forum/attachments/2410878/hybrid-leiste.png So the motto is "Change" we have to tolerate new stuffs and the decisions behind that (if you can't accept) ... We should be glad that new ideas and stuffs are coming and not crying like little girls, because things and habits are changing. Ubuntu is already Mark S. Baby and the design-team is surely very specialized for that job. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
"Well... never user a touchpad? Or a >5 years old mouse? Ask your elderly about their gesture precision too... Gesture precision has nothing to do with the left or right side But it does! Cann't you see that?" I have to admit that this is probably a negative point from this change. The rest of the contra-arguments don't have really sense... But in other hand there are good points of this change. Mostly shorter mouseways, all near in one range and a own face, for example. Yann I am always honest with what I say. I always say what I feel and see. Here I see a good change and it feels good. ,) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Inconsistence: I don't think here is a inconsistence, because the close- button is still on the right. Customs: If somebody works with a Mac and use at home Ubuntu or via Dualboot... I never heard complaints about it. I think it's better to have a own face than have the same face like the majority of the Operating Systems. Many peoples don't like change customs, but it's life and that isn't really grave. Buy a new car and you have to learn again.. never mind. Accidentally clicking: The close-button is glowing red! and totally outstanding. Please don't invents nightmare-histories. Chantage: It's rude and nobody get afraid of it. Newcomers: The don't know how easy is the change from left to right with gconf-editor, even they don't know that this exist. It's true. So they will work with the default-setting and the will custom on it. Hope that a setting in the preferences or a ratio-button will included somewhere. etc. etc. I am totally agree with the post #321. The functionally don't suffer any misery. It's only a habit-point that peoples don't want. But how to get a new face if you can't change it without forcing learn new habits. At first nearly everybody shout loud, but with time the noise disappear and they accept the new face of Ubuntu. Maybe they see and recognize that left have positive points, too. For my part I am moving less the mouse and I like it. Hope that the design-team don't get afraid to do what they think to do and give Ubuntu a new, nice and recognize face. respectfully Scholli -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
@ Aigars "Moving such dangerous button as 'Close' into the mix increases it even more as you will want to be REALLY careful not to close your window by accident." This should be the reason why the ’Close’-button is in the third place... for ’no’ clicking by accident. "... there are many elements in one area" That is the great stuff. It's a good usability-point... I don't see it negative - the opposite happens. ;-) > While you might the merfect mouse sharpshooter, keeping in mind the needs of people with less precise mouse movements is also important - the precision needed to hit these buttons on the left among all the other control elements there is much higher than before - people with special needs and movement problems will have a much harder time navigating this environment. Maybe. But even this I don't think it's so grave. The applications with important datas who's get a change will ask you before closing always if you're sure that you want close without ’save’ it. The second is, that the ’Close’-button is in a place there this kind of accidents are nearly impossible. "This is why I would recommend the layout of 'minimize,maximize, title ,close'." Safer, but more ugly. (my point of view) -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment
Aigars that is the wonderful thing that all is left. The start-menu on the panel. The windows with their control-buttons, the menu, the toolbar-icons, most important bookmarks, tabs, ... Wow, it's really faster work with it. I never clicked bad, because I look quickly and target well... like always. The scrollbar is on the right - it's a one- moment action to come to the point in a long list I wont to be. From there I use the wheel of the mouse for slight moves on the page. If I have open windows (inactive and above) they are situated generally on the right side of the screen. So I can click on them to activate without running in danger to click some of the control-buttons. Maybe the close- button on outside side would improve the stuff a little bit more, but I can work with the current positions well, too. I noticed, too that many peoples at first was shouting against, but than they gave a try and they changed their opinion... like me. I know Ubuntu since the beginning as something different, better and this is why I like Ubuntu so much against the rest. -- [Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
# 281: Really the minority? I had understand in a post before that 99.9% are happy with it and 0.1% unhappy... they come here in search of shout loud somewhere! and let a comment. :-) ... Well, maybe I am only saturated a little bit with the 280 comments: yes, not, anger, off-topic, chantage, ideas, datas, ... Seriously. If there a good idea for 10.10 out and the buttons have to be on the left for that reason, why don't let them do! I was skeptic at first, too, but I noticed, with time, that it isn't so bad everybody is shouting out. Surely it will exist something for change the side quickly for everybody who want have it really on the right side or because the third-game-theme looks better with the buttons on the right side Maybe a ratio-button in the preferences or a simple and little Metacity- Tool!? I think we should be curios and begin to thing different and not be a old, conservative and all new hating person. I saw that someones aren't really against this, but the reason that this is a LTS, they are in panic. But if 10.04 have it finally on the right and 10.10, 11.4, ... on the left; for the mentioned new feature, the LTS will be 2 years long a strange creature! But this had said Mr. Shuttleworth yet. Good night. :-) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
I hear alway touchscreens as argument. But it's a funny argument in my eyes. The pick-up'ed Icons on the panel, switch off - button on the panel, control-buttons (right or left), hide windows-applet, ... all is too small for that feature. Honestly it needs a different Desktop- Interface like the Ubuntu-Remix for Netbooks is, but THAT as an argument is ridiculous. # 253: I think it's a bad idea separate the control-buttons. Firstly it's looks hideous and second ... mhh I don't know. Don't like it. Before that, better put it all together to the right side. The best is left. Menu, toolbar-buttons etc. all in a ratio near together. I am faster now and have shorter mouseways since the new change. ,) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
@ Atel Apsfej: Wow. I am baffled about your ability to write and think. Here are writing many genius, but not all here have your ability to say it clear, with good arguments (points) and the cruel reality without being offensive, arrogant or simply unrespectful. I saw you are member here since February here and I don't know how much time you're familiar with Ubuntu and how much is your knowledge about Canonical's politic. I am with you with the most things you said, but nevertheless we are talking only about some simple control-buttons moved from the right to the left. I am really shocked about, how polemic that gewgaw is handled by the community. To be honest, and now I come to that what you wrote, is your wish about the transparency between Canonical and the community: I think there are some important cases where a work-together and transparency would be really nice. But do you really think that this - buttons - are a essential and important element which has to be supervised by the community? We have to spend all our spare time and energy for this thematic? This peanut can be managed easily by the design team. We should give really only "datas", no emotions and without creating a religion from it. The desing team collects "datas" meanwhile we spend our energy in truth important stuffs. For that I am agree with #234 (Bruno) Point 2. -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
@ Atel Apsfej: +1 But publish ideas and inventions soon in form of mock-up's can be copied by the concurrence and the "Joker"-Card is played before it could dig hurtful. Better believe to Shuttleworth and let him play the poker-game without rush him show his cards. I believe in his abilities, you not? -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
Off-Topic... who cares now! @ Mark: Lucid Lynx is frightening good and nice-looking. Microsoft will spend you another travel to the space for free; better said to the moon, because they wish you out of the planet earth after the release surely! Hold the course ... Bug [1]. :D -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
This thread would be shorter, better and more serious for the design team if we 'switch of' "emotions" finally. # 194 is a back to topic and has interesting points. The design team needs good points and facts for take good decisions. Stay by topic is the most helpful thing that we can do. One solution is maybe a left(default)/right-switcher somewhere in the preferences. ,) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
@fewt you're doing really play the surprised? McDonalds... you can let suggestions, feedbacks, reclamations. You go there to enjoy your hamburger, but you can't enter in the kitchen and fry your own hamburgers. You are not a kitchen-employee of that company. The same Canonical's product Ubuntu. The Ubuntu-community do a lot off stuff around that product... normally for the community than for Canonical. ,) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
# 158: I thought only loud; but my opinion is without analytic base and yes, for many peoples it's relevant, probably, and I have to respect it. Sorry for speaking loud my emotions and thinkings at that moment. -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
What really sad is, is the fact that peoples won't changes. For example in my country (Germany) there are many peoples they don't like changes in customs... they don't like new versions of programs or new versions of an OS. For that reason still are many peoples who still uses Windows XP and Internet Explorer 6. But think about that it's a absolutely nonsense. If the buttons are on the right or on the left, the most persons still stay with XP or old versions of Ubuntu etc. Newcomers don't watch there the buttons are, they look more if their hardware runs out the box or they can be satisfied with offered applications ... all escorted with a good stability. ... we put so much importance in something what is quite irrelevant in the end. # 155: I am running Alpha 3 and it's very good for be an Alpha. I really don't know what that "going down" means? It's the best Ubuntu I have seen right now. ;) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
#150: Ubuntu is Ubuntu. It isn't a Mac-OS and it isn't a Windows-OS. It hasn't to be similiar with any Operating Systems like Android, Win, Mac, BeOs, ... The most Peoples comes from Windows and if it isn't the same they will return to Windows is a bad and old argument. If I install another OS I know that have to be different... if I start my Computer and it's only Ubuntu installed or I choose it with Grub, so I know that I am starting a own-kind-working Operating System. We talk only about the buttons, but Gnome is different in behavior, like Mac, Windows, KDE etc. haves different functionalities in their usabilities-mechanisms. The arguments against that try to be reasonable, but in the end they aren't. Nobody says that Gimp has to work similar as PhotoShop, because in his work he is working with it. Linux (Gnome) is different to the rest and Ubuntu a little more... but that is not a bug, it's a pretty nice feature! ,) -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"
I am agree with that decision what Canonical took. I noticed I am faster with the left-option (mouseway) and it's really nice looking. Why I didn't noticed it before? But true, it's really better. Now we know too that it was made for a special reason... so I am ignoring all words against and hope the first plan can continuing straight. justmy2cents -- [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize,maximize,close" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/532633 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 441905] Re: strange behaivor by clicking buttons
Thanks for everybody. This was solved fast and the usability is muc better now. Thanks -- strange behaivor by clicking buttons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/441905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 328575] Re: Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error
Can put somebody this bug as medium-importance? It's a very nerving bug! Thx -- Cannot start gnome-terminal bcause of gconf error https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328575 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123237] Re: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()
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[Bug 123237] evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: evolution Every time when I try to start evolution, it crashes. Output from the shell: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ evolution CalDAV Eplugin starting up ... Loading Spamassasin as the default junk plugin ** (evolution:6157): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s ** (evolution:6157): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution (evolution:6157): evolution-mail-CRITICAL **: mail_tool_uri_to_folder: assertion `uri != NULL' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 CrashCounter: 1 Date: Sat Jun 30 15:33:56 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/evolution NonfreeKernelModules: cdrom Package: evolution 2.11.4-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: evolution --component=mail ProcCwd: /home/scholli ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 11 SourcePackage: evolution StacktraceTop: strchr () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 camel_url_new_with_base () from /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.10 camel_url_new () from /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.10 ?? () ?? () Title: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr() Uname: Linux scholli-laptop 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash need-i386-retrace -- evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123237 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123231] Re: evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267801/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267802/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267803/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267804/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267805/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267806/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "Stacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267807/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267808/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123231 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution-data-server in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123231] evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: evolution-data-server Probably the same problem as #120705, etc. ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 CrashCounter: 1 Date: Sat Jun 30 15:15:44 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-1.12 NonfreeKernelModules: cdrom Package: evolution-data-server 1.11.4-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-1.12 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_CalFactory:1.2 --oaf-ior-fd=26 ProcCwd: / ProcEnviron: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 5 SourcePackage: evolution-data-server StacktraceTop: g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 ?? () Title: evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() Uname: Linux scholli-laptop 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash -- evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123231 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution-data-server in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123232] Re: evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 123231 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123231 ** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267819/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267820/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267821/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267822/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267823/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267824/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "Stacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267825/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267826/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123232 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution-data-server in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123232] evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 123231 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123231 Public bug reported: Binary package hint: evolution-data-server Probably the same problem as #120705, etc. ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 CrashCounter: 1 Date: Sat Jun 30 15:15:44 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-1.12 NonfreeKernelModules: cdrom Package: evolution-data-server 1.11.4-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-1.12 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_DataServer_CalFactory:1.2 --oaf-ior-fd=26 ProcCwd: / ProcEnviron: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 5 SourcePackage: evolution-data-server StacktraceTop: g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 ?? () Title: evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() Uname: Linux scholli-laptop 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: evolution-data-server (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash -- evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123232 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution-data-server in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123233] Re: evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267828/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267829/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267830/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267831/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267832/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267833/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8267834/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123233 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123233] evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: evolution Probably the same problem as #122488, etc. ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 CrashCounter: 1 Date: Sat Jun 30 15:15:51 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/evolution/2.12/evolution-alarm-notify NonfreeKernelModules: cdrom Package: evolution 2.11.4-0ubuntu1 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: /usr/lib/evolution/2.12/evolution-alarm-notify ProcCwd: /home/scholli ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 5 SourcePackage: evolution Stacktrace: #0 0xb6e79cab in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0xb6e79f29 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #2 0x0805dfa0 in main () StacktraceTop: g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 main () Title: evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() Uname: Linux scholli-laptop 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash -- evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5 in g_logv() https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123233 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for evolution in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123133] mixer_applet2 crashed on logon
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 122594 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/122594 Public bug reported: Binary package hint: gnome-applets Probably the same bug as described in #122353, #122361, #122594, #122627, etc. ProblemType: Crash Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Jun 29 19:16:24 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.10 ExecutablePath: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 NonfreeKernelModules: cdrom Package: gnome-applets 2.18.0-3ubuntu5 PackageArchitecture: i386 ProcCmdline: /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=41 ProcCwd: / ProcEnviron: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games SHELL=/bin/bash Signal: 11 SourcePackage: gnome-applets StacktraceTop: gtk_widget_get_toplevel () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 ?? () ?? () ?? () Title: mixer_applet2 crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel() Uname: Linux scholli-laptop 2.6.22-7-generic #1 SMP Mon Jun 25 17:33:14 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev powerdev scanner video ** Affects: gnome-applets (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-crash -- mixer_applet2 crashed on logon https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123133 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for gnome-applets in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 123133] Re: mixer_applet2 crashed on logon
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 122594 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/122594 ** Attachment added: "CoreDump.gz" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262090/CoreDump.gz ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262091/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Disassembly.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262092/Disassembly.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262093/ProcMaps.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262094/ProcStatus.txt ** Attachment added: "Registers.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262095/Registers.txt ** Attachment added: "Stacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262096/Stacktrace.txt ** Attachment added: "ThreadStacktrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8262097/ThreadStacktrace.txt -- mixer_applet2 crashed on logon https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123133 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for gnome-applets in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
