[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2010-05-25 Thread srgb
The most complicated part of the issue described here is following:

Only application knows how to handle its buffer properly, hence when
it's closed - nobody can paste it.

The example can be quite simple: you enter formatted text, pictures and tables 
in OOo' Writer and then select-all and paste it to:
* notepad app (like gedit/kate/gvim/...) - only text is pasted
* bitmap editor (like gpaint/kpaint/...) - the whole buffer is represented as 
picture and pasted on the canvas
* another OOo' Writer window - the original formatting is kept (tables are 
tables, text is text, pictures are pictures...)

Everything is handled by OOo' itself. No clipboard manager will ever be able to 
the same work after OOo is closed.
... And it's not needed! Why reinvent the wheel?!

This is my idea on how to implement it properly:

Take the code that handles the buffer off the application (like OOo and 
others), and place it into the X-server. As a plugin.
When OOo is closed, it's plugin is still present and works with X-server to 
process 'paste'-requests.

PS. OOo is just an example, take any other complex app, like
dia/gimp/firefox/... instead if you wish.

pros/cons:
+ such a plugin is developed by developers of the original app and not by 
bystanders: less time to deliver the working plugin than adding support of 
strange source-buffer-type to clipboard manager
+ the plugin is no more than just a replacement of paste-handler from within 
the app to the X-server
+ no need to maintain clipboard managers for each DE
+ it's not a band-aid solution: it works on all permutations of 
source/target type pairs
+ some plugins may support more than one source applications (no need to 
write different plugins for simple notepad-applications, the same - for all 
simple raster graphic editors)
- need to create a clear spec and ask developers to follow it

Isn't it a good idea? :)

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[Bug 392043] Re: Drop a selection on a hidden window (Nautilus, gedit, Firefox, Thunderbird, anything) is not possible

2010-02-19 Thread srgb
Sorry, I've been away for a while from Linux systems.
Seems that we've misunderstood each other about the patch.
I only proposed the way to solve the problem, with out doing actual patch - I 
simply don't know how to do the one :)

If you point me on the doc page describing the process of doing the
patch, patching, and testing the patched system, I'd be glad to try to
follow it.

Thanks!

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[Bug 106644] Re: Clipboard contents are lost when window is closed

2009-11-20 Thread srgb
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 11334 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334

Everybody dies @ 2012, so why bother fixing this.
Let only geeks use Linux.

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Re: [Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2009-11-20 Thread srgb
Olaf wrote 2 hours ago:
It's not of the highest priority because there really are much higher
priorities.

That's the point of discussion.
You think some new weird feature is a high prio.
I think (as most of distributors do) usability is the highest prio ever.

2009/11/20, FMaz fmaz...@gmail.com:
 Olaf  wrote 2 hours ago:
 It's not of the highest priority because there really are much higher
 priorities.


 This problem have been reported more than 5 years ago. I think that this
 improvement should have been priorised over many other new features that are
 less important.

 Yes it's not a major security problem, but it's so old that it start to
 cause frustration.


 Endolith  wrote 2 hours ago:
 Is there some good reason why Parcellite (or some other tool) isn't just
 included by default to work around this?

 It has been asked in the previous --and old-- comments. It seem to be
 cause that there software are not as versatile ( can't copy/paste some
 type of content )

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[Bug 61237] Re: Drag 'n Drop in list view doesn't work

2009-07-19 Thread srgb
I confirm that too - it always annoys me.
Waiting obsessively for a fix!

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[Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2009-07-19 Thread srgb
Remember The clipboard contains a huge object, do you want to leave it? 
message box when MS Office is closed?
Why not to do the same?!
If clipping text is not that big, then copy to system buffer w/o 
confirmation. If it's quite big (10/100/1000 Mb) - then ask.

The other workaround is to insert a special program (glipper or anything
else) into a basic distribution.

This issue really affects me too, and I bump in it not only when source
window is closed, but also when it's suspended (by kill -SIGSTOP or
Ctrl-Z)

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