[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-14 Thread Sebastien Bacher
no, it can update bug watchs when the upstream change and that's about
it. When a bug is opening upstream somebody needs to be responsive to
questions asked there

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-14 Thread John Nilsson
Hmm I was under the impression that launchpad could forward bugs
upstream. It would improve bug reporting workflow if the bug could
simply be forwarded.

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-14 Thread Sebastien Bacher
This sort of choices should be made upstream, closing the distribution
bug, could you use bugzilla.gnome.org? That's not likely to change
though, the interface is coherent with what is done on other menu items
already

** Changed in: epiphany-browser (Ubuntu)
   Status: Needs Info => Rejected

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread John Nilsson
I'm not saying the it's a bad thing to communicate the fact that the
operation won't have any noticeable effect. I AM saying that I don't
like the interface remove options just because. So some other way of
communicating the same information would be good.

I can understand that the "forward" command is disabled if there is no
forward page. But in this case it is impossible to perform the command.
But the "reset zoom level to normal" is always possible to perform, even
if it's already at "normal".

A carpenter doesn't know that the nail is all the way down by the hammer
going away, he can still hit the nail, it just won't do any good..

I as a user want the comfort of knowing that the commands I use is
available to me, even if others think of me as stupid for using them.

It's the same thing with the "save" command in some programs. I want to
be able to tell the program "I don't care that I haven't changed
anything since last save, just do whatever you do with whats there now
and write it to disk."

It's somewhat similar to the thing MS does where they collapse menus so
only used commands is shown. I read some paper where they found that
most user had a bad experience from that. It's all about the comfort of
a stable interface.

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread Dean Sas
Seb, he merely means menu items that can't currently be used are
disabled. (I head to read the first paragraph twice)

So while you're already on "normal zoom", the normal zoom entry is
disabled ("greyed out"), see attached screenshot

If the menu items are left enabled when they can't do anything then
users will press it and wonder why nothing is happening

** Attachment added: "screenshot showing disabled "view" item"
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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread John Nilsson
I was just trying to provide some background to help track down the
underlying problem.

In any case, it doesn't seem possible to take a screenshot while having
a menu shown. But just hit the "View"-menu and you should see what I'm
talking about. There are two disabled entries: "Normal Size" and "Stop".

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Your comment about what GNOME is doing is not useful on the bug, looks
like a troll. Could you attach a screenshot showing the menu you are
item you try to use?

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread John Nilsson
I report a usability bug and get called a troll? Nice.

Hmm, reading the section of disabling operation I guess you could have
misunderstood me. I wasn't referring to the common complaint about
removing functionality or what ever. I meant that buttons and menu
entries are "greyed out".

Yes the zoom level.

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug. The bug tracker is there to work on bugs, could
you troll about what GNOME does or not somewhere else? What "Normal
Size" option do you speak about? Is that the zoom level?

** Changed in: epiphany-browser (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
   Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info

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[Bug 103184] Re: "Normal Size" command unavailable when font is normal size

2007-04-04 Thread John Nilsson

** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/7153362/Dependencies.txt

** Attachment added: "ProcMaps.txt"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/7153363/ProcMaps.txt

** Attachment added: "ProcStatus.txt"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/7153364/ProcStatus.txt

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