[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
Cas, any hope to include the patch I sent into deluge git? It would allow to get this fixed at least. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
2013/4/24 Cas 1168...@bugs.launchpad.net: From my position the logic behind the changes just don't make sense and I am thinking of the bigger picture not just Deluge. I can open any file with xdg-open, with the associated application opening focused, file-roller, image viewer, firefox etc... So that begs the question why is Nautilus a special case and we have to jump through hoops to open a Nautilus window focused? I see your point, and I also was thinking the same, but there's some rationale over it and what we eventually want is that if you run a program you should pass some platform-data to it, that in general includes the timestamp of the event that triggered that action in order to define if the newly opened window should or not befocused by WM. In general the WM always focuses new windows, but Nautilus is a particular case because it stays always opened in background (to draw the desktop) and so, when called, in order to be able to focus a new window it needs to say to the WM when this request has been done. This is not only a problem that affects Nautilus, btw. Also Empaty was affected (I proposed a patch for it as well, as for the indicator-messages), Rythmbox and more. See bug lp:627195 FYI, the same behavior is applied by gnome-shell as well (to say that it's not a compiz problem, but a feature). An application developer when using xdg-open should not have to worry about special cases involving Nautilus file manager to have the new window focused like every other application. Well, in general it should not use xdg-open directly I think, but he should use the APIs that the environment is providing to open files and folders. And everybody should start thinking that if an action could leads to opening a new window, then that should be properly formed in order to have the WM to focus it. With 13.04 so close to release all the applications that use the 'open folder' feature will encounter this issue and users (inc devs?) will be irate but you have not addressed this concern? I see the point, and as said, I've put all my efforts to fix this properly, but not WM or Nautilus side, but Application side (that is where it must fixed). Standard has changed since long time, and developers should sync with it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
I was chatting with another dev and the idea of modifying xdg-open came up, could this be a possible solution? --- /usr/bin/xdg-open +++ xdg-open @@ -489,6 +489,7 @@ open_gnome() { +export DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID=i_am_unique_$(date '+%s%N')_TIME$(date '+%s') if gvfs-open --help 2/dev/null 12; then No, because DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID should use the Display Server time (X, for now), not the current time, so this won't work as expected, also there's not a way to pass to it the event time of the event that caused its call. Also gnome-open could, in theory, easily use GAppLaunchContext, but it doesn't it since it's not possible beca - at the current state - to know the event that triggered that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
xdg-open is the tool used in linux to open the default application but how can it be used by user/scripts/applications (without an api) if it doesn't behave as expected with nautilus? Following on from that if you then set the env var (as per my xdg-open change) in scripts then we have gone full circle and those scripts will then steal focus. Why does it matter if gnome-open knows which event as long as a correct timestamp is issued if no timestamp has been set? If it is possible to modify gnome-open to correctly set a timestamp that seems like a good solution and it does mention in the gtk api that the timestamp is only ideally from the event so it's not a requirement. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
This is not a nautilus or unity bug, deluge should launch it properly using g_app_info_launch with proper GAppLaunchContext in order to make it focus (if needed). ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
No. ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New ** Changed in: unity Status: Invalid = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
Please, don't revert this. Nautilus won't be fixed (nor downstream or upstream), since it's already fixed (see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693815 or https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674816 for example). Also compiz is right in not giving the focus to Nautilus if it is opened with an old action timestamp, that's how focus stealing prevention works according to Gtk. So, please, fix deluge. This is what you need to do to have proper startup notification: http://is.gd/gqV7uN ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #693815 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693815 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #674816 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674816 ** Changed in: unity Status: New = Won't Fix ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
This is a regression from 12.04 to 13.04 and you are determined to pin the blame on Deluge despite my example that simply opening Nautilus from the terminal displays this regression and Deluge does nothing more than call xdg-open. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
Opening from terminal is not a valid example, since the terminals we currently have, do not set correctly the environment variable needed to pass to nautilus the startup-notification with the event timestamp that caused nautilus to open. I know this, and as you can see I tried to change this upstream, but it's not the case since this is the wanted policy. An application that launches another one should say when this has happened in order to make the WM to focus it (this is important to avoid that applications that takes much time to load won't steal the focus, while you're currently doing something else). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
How does that work with xdg-open? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
I have just realised how ridiculous this is after testing any application. Basically ANY application that the user wishes to open a folder to view the location of a file will be affected in 13.04. This will annoy the hell out of a large number of users. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
This is absolutely not a Deluge issue and I would like the Unity team to investigate this. ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Won't Fix = Invalid ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
We already investigated it, and nor unity or nautilus will change at this point. What you need on deluge is just properly calling xdg-open with a proper DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID env set. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
So it seems you don't want to fix it... Since this is trivial, here's what deluge needs. Patch attached. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) ** Changed in: deluge (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = In Progress ** Patch added: add_desktop_startup_id.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge/+bug/1168858/+attachment/3651958/+files/add_desktop_startup_id.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
** Patch removed: add_desktop_startup_id.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge/+bug/1168858/+attachment/3651958/+files/add_desktop_startup_id.patch ** Patch added: add_desktop_startup_id.patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge/+bug/1168858/+attachment/3651959/+files/add_desktop_startup_id.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
The attachment add_desktop_startup_id.patch seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the patch flag from the attachment, remove the patch tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-reviewers, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by ~brian-murray, for any issues please contact him.] ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
From my position the logic behind the changes just don't make sense and I am thinking of the bigger picture not just Deluge. I can open any file with xdg-open, with the associated application opening focused, file-roller, image viewer, firefox etc... So that begs the question why is Nautilus a special case and we have to jump through hoops to open a Nautilus window focused? An application developer when using xdg-open should not have to worry about special cases involving Nautilus file manager to have the new window focused like every other application. With 13.04 so close to release all the applications that use the 'open folder' feature will encounter this issue and users (inc devs?) will be irate but you have not addressed this concern? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
I was chatting with another dev and the idea of modifying xdg-open came up, could this be a possible solution? --- /usr/bin/xdg-open +++ xdg-open @@ -489,6 +489,7 @@ open_gnome() { +export DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID=i_am_unique_$(date '+%s%N')_TIME$(date '+%s') if gvfs-open --help 2/dev/null 12; then gvfs-open $1 else -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1168858] Re: Nautilus window opens behind current window
** Tags removed: deluge ** Tags added: raring -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168858 Title: Nautilus window opens behind current window To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge/+bug/1168858/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs