[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
** Also affects: libxfce4ui Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
Nuts. xfce4-keyboard-settings isn't registered in launchpad for some reason, so I can't add it as an affected package. I've added libxfce4ui instead, although it needs to have a bug opened for it upstream for anyone to be notified. I couldn't find any relevant existing ones here: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libxfce4ui%20shortcuts Here's a related XFCE forum posting from 2012, with a reply near the end from jeromeg, an XFCE dev: "Keyboard Shortcuts not working" http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7138 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
Martin Spacek if default shortcuts are not working then you are seeing a different bug. Note that the description of how to reproduce the bug is specifically about custom ones. You would be better to post a new bug and revert the description of this one to its previous text. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
Colin, #17 and #22 imply that default shortcuts also did not work, at least at some point. Since no one here seems to know exactly where this bug is occurring, and since it seems to be random (and therefore perhpas a race condition), it's not much of a stretch to assume that the same bug manifests slightly differently for different people. Whether a keybinding is default or customized seems unlikely to me to make much of a difference wherever these system-wide keybindings are implemented in code. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
FYI, suspending and resuming didn't fix the issue for me, but logging out and back in did. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
@mspacek Notice that I reported this bug against Unity/GNOME 3 not against Xfce4. Unless you can prove that the bugs are coming from the same /common/ code (shared by both projects), it would be nicer if you reported a new bug against Xfce4. IIRC, last time a used Trusty/Utopic the original bug wasn't present and I've never had any problem with the default shortcuts (either on Unity or Xfce4). And for that matter, I've never had problems with Xfce4 custom keyboard shortcuts. So please, report a new bug against Xfce4 if it haven't been filed before. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
Martin, the bug as described in the bug description is not random and does not affect default shortcuts. Any other problems should be reported separately, whatever others have commented. Apart from anything else it is always better to report a new bug unless it is absolutely clear that one is seeing identical symptoms to those in the bug description. It is best left to the developers to decide whether a slightly different symptom is actually caused by the same bug. Also unless anyone is still seeing the bug (as described at the top) on 14.04 it should probably be marked as fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
"Notice that I reported this bug against Unity/GNOME 3 not against Xfce4. Unless you can prove that the bugs are coming from the same /common/ code (shared by both projects), it would be nicer if you reported a new bug against Xfce4." @Edwin, yes, I noticed. You filed this bug against gnome-control-center. I might ask the same of you, to prove that these system keybinding issues are indeed due to that package, and not some other, perhaps lower level, package. Given the very similar symptoms we're seeing (or have seen), and given that not a single dev has yet to chime in, which package to file this against is anyone's guess right now. Why not pool our reasonable guesses together in one place, so that the issue gets more attention? "IIRC, last time a used Trusty/Utopic the original bug wasn't present and I've never had any problem with the default shortcuts (either on Unity or Xfce4). And for that matter, I've never had problems with Xfce4 custom keyboard shortcuts. So please, report a new bug against Xfce4 if it haven't been filed before." So because you were the first to report this bug, you own it, and decide what is and isn't relevant, despite (apparently) not being a developer? Race conditions are a vicious sort of randomness. For some people, a race condition bug may never show up. For others, all the time. And for others still, only once in a while, all dependent on how the stars align on your system. You may have been in 2nd group, and then later in the 1st, while I'm in the 3rd, yet we could all easily still be subject to the same bug. You're making hasty conclusions about a complex system that no one here knows enough about. As James Cameron wrote in #28: "I fixed it by delaying the xmodmap by two seconds. I speculate that the X server initialisation of keyboard mapping changed in a way to introduce a race condition, and so setting the keyboard mapping later worked around the race." So, perhaps we should add X to the packages affected. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
"Martin, the bug as described in the bug description is not random and does not affect default shortcuts." Then perhaps the bug description should be ammended, given the slightly wider set of reports here from a variety of people. See my comment above on race conditions. Just because the original description fits you and Edwin best does not mean that it is fully accurate. "Any other problems should be reported separately, whatever others have commented." And who is to define what exactly is a different problem? Where do you draw the line? Did your problem happen at exactly the same time of day as the original in the bug description? Did it happen on exactly the same hardware, with exactly the same configuration? If not, then I suggest you open a separate bug report. The answer is, devs are the only ones capable of deciding which problems are related, and which aren't. "Apart from anything else it is always better to report a new bug unless it is absolutely clear that one is seeing identical symptoms to those in the bug description. It is best left to the developers to decide whether a slightly different symptom is actually caused by the same bug." References please. Who, other than a dev (at best), can be absolutely clear? If a handful of similar yet slightly different bug reports are scattered all over the place, with nothing linking them save perhaps the odd keyword, how is a dev supposed to get a handle on the scope of the problem? The slight differences can be key to solving the problem. You see them only as distraction. What you propose is fragmentation and purity. What I propose is practicality. "Also unless anyone is still seeing the bug (as described at the top) on 14.04 it should probably be marked as fixed." If you'd feel inclined enough to go through some of the reports here, you'd know that the bug is alive and well in 14.04, both Ubuntu and Xubuntu. See #19, #22, #25, #27, #28, #29, plus my own (#34). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
** Also affects: libxkbcommon (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 1224732] Re: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work
@Martin, I am not going to get involved in an argument, I am only trying to help. I suspect the reason this bug is no longer getting attention is that the devs looked at it months ago and since the bug as described (custom shortcuts not working) was no longer showing itself they have lost interest and unsubscribed from the bug. My suggestion to open a new bug describing succinctly the problem you are seeing was not for my benefit it was for yours. A new bug, referencing 14.04 in particular, and if confirmed by others, is more likely to get attention than continuing to flog away at this one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224732 Title: Custom & default keyboard shortcuts don't work To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libxfce4ui/+bug/1224732/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs