[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
** Changed in: gnome-panel Importance: Unknown = High -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I have opened a new Bug, #128735 as requested. Having this problem on both our dual-screen machines here. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
No idea on the bug, I don't have a multiscreen setup to work on it -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
This bug is about the notification area only and has been closed upstream, doing the same with the distribution task. Feel free open a new bug if you still have it on Ubuntu 7.04 ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 09:28 -, Sebastien Bacher wrote: This bug is about the notification area only and has been closed upstream, doing the same with the distribution task. Feel free open a new bug if you still have it on Ubuntu 7.04 ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:29:10 -, Alex F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, forgot some details: Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, fresh download and install this week. It makes me sad that this bug report is so old and yet persists. Yes, it is still an issue with Feisty Fawn; there are even additional comments on the upstream bug about that. It seems that this is going to be one of those stubborn issues... perhaps a bug asking that GTK+ be fixed would be better? Do you have any insight on that, Sebastien? — Mike -- Michael B. Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (404) 592-5746 Jabber IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Demand Freedom! Use open and free protocols, standards, and software! Support free speech---it is the most valuable freedom we have! -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
PeopleWithThisProblem++; I just finally got dual monitors working on my dualhead nVidia card. I am not using TwinView or Xinerama, because I want to be able to run games fullscreen on the primary display without it affecting the secondary display at all. (Aside: I don't need to be able to drag windows between screens, but it would be nice to right-click a window title bar and 'send-to' the other screen; still haven't figured that one out) If I launch a program on the primary display, it binds to the primary display's notification area properly. If I launch on the secondary display, the secondary display's notification area remains empty. Ideally, I would like the option for the two displays to share the same notification area (so anything that binds to it from either display shows up on both), with maybe the extra candy that clicking a notification icon will bring the associated window to the display where it was clicked, no matter which display it was launched from. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 18:28 +, Alex F wrote: Ideally, I would like the option for the two displays to share the same notification area (so anything that binds to it from either display shows up on both), with maybe the extra candy that clicking a notification icon will bring the associated window to the display where it was clicked, no matter which display it was launched from. Ahh, that would be nice. Unfortunately, I don't know that it would be possible given the way that X11 works. Each screen connected and active (using standard multiple display support) is a different $DISPLAY all of its own. This means that it should be autonomous, for example with the tray notification areas in each window. Some programs (such as Metacity) can share information between both displays because it is specifically written to be aware of how to handle them. If you open a terminal on each screen, you'll notice that the $DISPLAY on the first one is :0.0 and on the second one is :0.1---which means that you can do something like: $ DISPLAY=:0.1 firefox ... in a terminal on your primary display, and it will bring Firefox up on the second display (that is, assuming that you do not have an already running Firefox on the first display; there is a bug somewhere in Launchpad for that issue, too). In thinking about it, it seems that the multiple-display issues should be abstracted at a lower-level, perhaps such as GTK+, so that all GTK+ applications are automatically aware of multiple X11 screens and able to take advantage of them in a consistent manner. Right now, as I understand it, each application that wants to be aware of multiple X11 screens has to be taught to be aware of them independently. --- Mike -- Michael B. Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (404) 592-5746 Jabber IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Demand Freedom! Use open and free protocols, standards, and software! Support free speech---it is the most valuable freedom we have! -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
Sorry, forgot some details: Ubuntu Feisty 7.04, fresh download and install this week. It makes me sad that this bug report is so old and yet persists. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
Still, it seems to me that even with the current architecture, the application itself does not need to be aware of multiple screens: X11 of course is, therefore the window manager can be, therefore the window manager ought to be able to handle the gymnastics of keeping track of application/notification/displayscreen linkages without troubling the application at all, and (it seems to me) without even bothering the GTK+ rendering system with it. GTK+ just has to render GUI elements at whatever coordinates of whatever device the window manager dictates. A window titlebar already has send-to-workspace functions that (I assume) are handled by the window manager, and notification icons must already have some linkage to the application process which controls the window associated with the icon. Therefore, the window manager ought to be able to display the same notification-icon-list on each display, and when one is clicked, ought to be able to figure out which display the associated window is already on and move it to the display where the click happened, if necessary. Granted, I don't really know much about the guts of this system, so maybe there's some big architectural obstacle I'm not accounting for, but what I'm describing seems totally doable given what I understand to be the GUI hierarchy. Maybe the problem is that separate X11 display-screens (:0.0 vs :0.1 as you mentioned) have thus far been designed to be TOO autonomous? I can see situations where it would make sense to make them separate (you could have a different user logged in to each, in a different room even, without them interfering with eachother, etc). But clearly there is also a need for slightly less independent alternate displays; maybe a new abstraction level needs to be established that allows for only one user session among several displays (the standard desktop dual-monitor setup), but in return allows for more interaction between the two (like shared notification, etc)? -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 20:58 +, Alex F wrote: Still, it seems to me that even with the current architecture, the application itself does not need to be aware of multiple screens: X11 of course is, therefore the window manager can be, therefore the window manager ought to be able to handle the gymnastics of keeping track of application/notification/displayscreen linkages without troubling the application at all, and (it seems to me) without even bothering the GTK+ rendering system with it. GTK+ just has to render GUI elements at whatever coordinates of whatever device the window manager dictates. A window titlebar already has send-to-workspace functions that (I assume) are handled by the window manager, and notification icons must already have some linkage to the application process which controls the window associated with the icon. Therefore, the window manager ought to be able to display the same notification-icon-list on each display, and when one is clicked, ought to be able to figure out which display the associated window is already on and move it to the display where the click happened, if necessary. Workspaces are a Window Manager concept, not so much an X11 concept. It depends on what level the thing takes place at... applications connect to a $DISPLAY, and the window manager running on $DISPLAY then decorates the window for the application, at its most basic. You can even have different WMs on :0.0 and :0.1 if you want—it gives people room to really customize things, which is why I like the layout. Even so, there are some issues; like this bug, like the fact that Epiphany and Firefox cannot be run on both displays at the same time, and so forth. (Then again, for at least Firefox, anyway, the same applies to different X11 sessions entirely; if you have :0.0 and :1.0 running for the same user, at least FF will error telling you that an instance is already running somewhere else.) Granted, I don't really know much about the guts of this system, so maybe there's some big architectural obstacle I'm not accounting for, but what I'm describing seems totally doable given what I understand to be the GUI hierarchy. Maybe the problem is that separate X11 display-screens (:0.0 vs :0.1 as you mentioned) have thus far been designed to be TOO autonomous? I can see situations where it would make sense to make them separate (you could have a different user logged in to each, in a different room even, without them interfering with eachother, etc). This autonomousity lends itself to being quite flexible. Of course, the flexibility comes at the cost of the application-layer logic having to do slightly more to deal with it. I think that the way it works currently (at least in this respect) is a good thing, and besides, one distribution of the GNU/Linux system wouldn't dare change that—it would break compatibility with everything else, and take away some of the wonderful features of X11, like the ability to remote it without using something like VNC. But clearly there is also a need for slightly less independent alternate displays; maybe a new abstraction level needs to be established that allows for only one user session among several displays (the standard desktop dual-monitor setup), but in return allows for more interaction between the two (like shared notification, etc)? That's why I think it should probably be done in the GTK+ layer. The more I think about it, the more that I think that a different bug should be opened with the goal of doing this. Then again, IANAD, at least not for this project, and so my opinion matters quite little. :-) -- Michael B. Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (404) 592-5746 Jabber IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Demand Freedom! Use open and free protocols, standards, and software! Support free speech---it is the most valuable freedom we have! -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I cannot see which further information could be needed, neither it seems to be difficult to reproduce - confirmed. ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I also confirm the bug. I am using latest Feisty and Gnome. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I can confirm too: latest Feisty, running Gnome. I'm not too familiar with the gnome bug tracker, but in the link posted above the bug is marked as resolved, and it most certainly isn't! I've tried both GAIM and Banshee and they both don't appear in my :0.1 notification area. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I have got the same Problem : Application I launch in second screen do not register in notification area(nto the first screen one or the second screen one). If I launch the apps in the First screen it register to the 1st screen notification area. Ubuntu 7.04 beta Feisty Fawn DUAL DESKTOP mode Linuk Kernel : 2.6.20-14-generic 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Video Card : Ati X700 Gnome version 2.18.0 -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12696 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
This problem is still a problem as of today with Feisty Fawn. Is there any progress on this bug? It is beginning to become a problem—I have two notification areas on each of my workspaces (:0.0 and :0.1, same configuration as above with no Xinerama, see attached X.org configuration), but the applications that are started on the secondary screen (display 0, screen 1, :0.1) do not register with either the notification area on the main display (:0.0) or the secondary display (:0.1), going away into the ether it would appear. In this way, I have to resort to the command line to kill applicaitons (such as the OpenOffice.org quickstarter) which should be able to attach to the Notification Area, but don't on a dual-head setup on the secondary monitor. ** Attachment added: My X.org configuration http://librarian.launchpad.net/6852153/xorg.conf -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
Re-opening per request to re-open if still an issue. Being closed isn't going to help anyone. :-) ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Rejected = Unconfirmed -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I'm running a clean install of Edgy and am experiencing this problem exactly as described. ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Rejected -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
** Changed in: gnome-panel (upstream) Status: Needs Info = Fix Released -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
No complaints, closing the bug - please reopen if it still happens. ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Needs Info = Fix Released -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
Could anybody try on edgy if that's still an issue? ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Needs Info -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
** Changed in: gnome-panel (upstream) Status: Confirmed = Needs Info -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
might be fixed upstream, to try with 2.15.92 ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
I have a very similar problem in 6.06. I'm using the TV-out on my 7800 to use my TV as a second monitor (for MythTV). The icons that would normally be in the notification area show up in their own small window on the first monitor. It doesn't always do this, but i haven't figured out what causes it yet. -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
** Changed in: gnome-panel (upstream) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
Does this problem persist in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS? -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 12696] Re: Notification area does not work with dual head
confirmed upstream ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Notification area does not work with dual head https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/12696 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
