[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-04-28 Thread BloodyIron
Can we PLEASE get this fixed already? I have to deal with this problem
EVERY DAY, and it's now over 5 years old!

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HAVE TO BEG FOR THIS 30 MINUTE FIX TO BE
IMPLEMENTED

It is CLEAR that restarting the service provides a work-around, and a
VERY RUDIMENTARY CODE CHANGE COULD AT LEAST IMPLEMENT A MOSTLY
ACCEPTABLE DAY TO DAY WORK-AROUND.

WHY DO I HAVE TO BEG FOR THIS TO GET
IMPLEMENTED//////////////////////////v

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-04-01 Thread Антон
five years to fix an smb login error. And here I thought my company dev cycle 
is slow.
I am also affected by this bug on Linux Mint 20 with Thunar as file manager. 
Just came here to get a bit shocked and to let people know the bug is still out 
there.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
If anyone understand the probably and could write a patch and submit it
upstream for review that would be great. I can handle getting the fix in
Ubuntu once available.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-22 Thread BloodyIron
WS Discovery is irrelevant for storage systems that don't even have WS
capabilities at all. Please take note that the relevant component gvfsd-
smb-browse already clearly has the capability to work here but
_requires_ a kill/restart of the component after a fresh reboot to fix.
This could easily be solved with adjusting the internal code to instead
of fail as it does, just re-init itself in similar logical vein (but
better than killing it).

So yet again to say explicitly WS DISCOVERY AND RELATED WS ASPECTS ARE
NOT THE SOLUTION HERE. How many times do I need to say that here and
elsewhere before it gets noticed and read?

I am glad that you chimed in Sebastien Bacher, as this is now
approaching 5 years outstanding as an issue, despite there being a
clearly simple solution (within the code). And I do hear you on the
always limited resources. But I genuinely believe someone could bang out
a solution to this (as I describe-ish) very quickly.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Sorry for the lack of activity there, we are just short on resources and
have other priorities, we will try to get to check the status of things
again here and fix what we can.

Note that upstream also working on a new WS discovery backend which should help 
resolving some of those cases
https://ondrej.holych.net/discovering-smb-shares-in-gnome/

We will not likely have it by default for the incoming release but we
aim at making it available and then enable it by default in a following
update

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-18 Thread smiki
I can confirm that on latest LTS (22.04.4) this is still present. 
This is a major usability issue. I remember having this problem for many year 
now. 

Workaround is clear(killing gvfsd-smb-browse). Even a patch is released
that although not solving the root cause shows that the problem is gvfs
left in a bad state -- see post #45 (William Maddox (wmaddox3rd))

this issue us haunting me almost daily for 5years now. And is a core
userexperience functionality of any user to be able to see shares on a
local network.

Even though its a gvfs issue, ubuntu-desktop shold prioritize fixing
this since it affects such a core UX function.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-14 Thread BloodyIron
I am still having this issue every time I reboot, on Ubuntu Desktop
v23.10.

The "gvfs" package installed is version "1.52.0-1".

This issue is 100% reproducible, and my work-around still demonstrates
that the package itself (gvfs) has the capabilities of solving this
itself. Instead of failing, producing a not-helpful error, it should
simply re-init the relevant components that re-init when I do the
"killall gvfsd-smb-browse" after trying to browser the SMB Server. While
I have not looked at the code, I know programming well-enough that a
basic re-init in this scenario should be a trivial amount of code to
write, as a basic work-around until a proper solution is identified.

Either way, is this even going anywhere? Are any Devs reading this at
all? (Canonical or otherwise)

This issue is coming up to 5 years old, and frankly the UX here is
unacceptable, potentially even threatening the usability in professional
settings. Can we please get a proper solution here? Or at minimum, a
built-in stop-gap solution as I have roughly described?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-12 Thread François Bouffard
Oh if that matters: gvfs is currently version amd64/mantic 1.52.0-1 on
my side, and Nautilus is version amd64 1:45~rc-1ubuntu1

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2024-03-12 Thread François Bouffard
For what it's worth, I *think* I have the same bug. Recently set up a
home server with vanilla Ubuntu 23.10, up to date, using Samba
(currently samba:amd64 2:4.18.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2.1). To access the shares
from Windows 10 machines, for some reason I had to activate CIFS/SMB1.0
client functionality. On Ubuntu machines, also running up-to-date Ubuntu
23.10, Nautilus wants me to log into the server (before listing the
shares, even if guest login is enabled on Samba) but fails anyway, not
displaying shares.

I for one am glad I found @bloodyiron's workaround (killall gvfsd-smb-
browse) -- it does fix the issue, the shares instantly become visible
and accessible with guest/anonymous login. My previous workaround was to
ctrl-L to access the address bar and use smb://path_to_server/share to
access the shares using a GUI.

I get that the bug is originating from upstream. But on the other hand,
in my case, I set up Samba shares from the most recent Ubuntu release,
and cannot access it by default, using the default file browser of
another up-to-date Ubuntu install. I would have thought that this would
be a common use case, and hence rather important to fix one way or the
other.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-19 Thread BloodyIron
@seb128 just booted into a live ISO for Ubuntu 23.10, just to test
without installing etc, and still getting the "Failed to retrieve share
list from server: Invalid argument" that I get on other systems :(

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The change to try is probably
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/commit/293365f6

The fix is already in the version which is in Ubuntu 23.10, could you
try from a iso if that's resolved there for you?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-13 Thread BloodyIron
Yeah I've confirmed with the release notes (
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/commit/ca9c22c4c41afe8ce4cc4a0bae376e9d2850f0a5
) that the fix (hopefully the one that actually solves this properly) is
in gvfs v1.50.5! "smbbrowse: Fix empty device listing after unrelated
mount failure (Ondrej Holy)".

Ondrej goes on to report that "GVfs 1.50.x is meant for GNOME 42+." so
v1.50.5+ should eventually land in Ubuntu repos probably! As for how
that whole workflow works I know nothing about that. So yay! Can't wait
to apply that code all over my compies! \o/

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-12 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-12 Thread BloodyIron
Ondrej actually means if we see issues with gvfs v1.50.5 that we should
open a new issue, to clarify. That suggests (implicitly, not explicitly)
that v1.50.5 of gvfs has (might?) an appropriate fix.

I have no idea when this will hit a version of Ubuntu I can test this
on. But it sounds promising!

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The upstream ticket got closed and Ondrej asked someone to open a new
ticket if they still get the issue, could anyone do that on gitlab?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-11 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-11 Thread BloodyIron
@deisi , That certainly is something for valid consideration. In my use-
case there is no network bridging going on, just to clear that up. The
NAS and the client are on the same network (two non-routing switches
exist between them), on the same CIDR IP range, same DHCP server
involved, same DNS, same internet access. So nothing is really sticking-
out for me in that regards that could be relevant for my scenario. But
I'm open to even more ideas I had not considered :^) as I really just
would love this solved lol.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-11 Thread Malte Deiseroth
Given that a restart of the application is helping and fixes this
temporarily. This reminds be of a known issue in rygel, where disable
IGMP snooping is the solution if network bridges are involved and rygel
can only be discovered after a restart.
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Rygel/FAQ

Not saying that this would help anything here. I just want to raise
awareness that this might also be caused by other external factors along
the network.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-11 Thread BloodyIron
It's looking like maybe the most relevant GNOME issue thread is :
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/307

(Holy cow! 6 years originally posted! Yikes!)

Also, there looks to be two open MRs in #307 (linked above) which might
help. One is for use of WSD (which as demonstrated isn't relevant, in my
case anyways), and the other, something about SMB server cache (which
I'm a touch dubious of, but I'm asking for details).

Ondrej really carrying the torch there though! :)

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-10-11 Thread BloodyIron
STILL having this problem! Also, the gnome issue of #506 is NOT
RELEVANT! As this issue PREDATED WSD IN TOTALITY.

Like, how more clear do I REEAALLL need to make this? I kill the
gvfsd-smb-browse process, and IMMEDIATELY I can browse SMB shares when
SMB1 is disabled. CLEARLY the application is capable, however is
unwilling to cooperate until it gets restarted (gvfsd-smb-browse). This
has NOTHING to do with WSD in impact, or even as a solution! WSD _IS NOT
PRESENT ON MY NETWORK_.

Hell, we even have another thread _claiming_ that this was fixed in much
earlier versions of Ubuntu (which clearly it wasn't):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1778322

Again, also, _THIS HAPPENS OUT OF THE BOX FOR ALL UBUNTU DESKTOP
INSTALLATIONS CURRENT AND FOR THE PAST 4+ YEARS_.

** Changed in: gvfs
 Remote watch: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues #506 => None

** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: New => Unknown

** Changed in: gvfs
 Remote watch: None => gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues #307

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-05-02 Thread BloodyIron
SMB1 is disabled on the server/NAS end. And I'm using the out of the box
experience for Ubuntu 23.04. The UX of this whole situation is
effectively broken. And while I know that I can just "killall gvfsd-smb-
browse" to trigger it to restart, that's not the whole point of why this
needs to be fixed.

This needs to be fixed, yes, because of the security aspect. But
primarily because a user shouldn't have to worry about having to kill
gvfsd-smb-browse just to reach an SMB network share using an actually
secure protocol version.

So again, what's the hold-up here? SMB1 is off, and has been for years.

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Re: [Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-05-02 Thread Jon
The SMB1 code should be entirely removed from the stack.  It’s insecure and
deprecated everywhere.

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:56 AM BloodyIron <1828...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:

> Upgraded to Ubuntu 23.04 and the issue persists... Will this ever get
> fixed? This is now over 4 years old.
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> Title:
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>
> Status in gvfs:
>   New
> Status in gvfs package in Ubuntu:
>   Triaged
>
> Bug description:
>   After bug #1778322 is fixed (just needs a gvfs rebuild with newer
>   samba), samba machines will start to show up again in the "windows
>   network" tab in nautilus. But if a server has disabled the SMB1
>   protocol, nautilus will show an error when that server is clicked on,
>   instead of showing the shares list.
>
>   Even with SMB1 disabled, it should still be technically possible to
>   get a share list, since smbclient can do it:
>
>   andreas@nsnx:~$ nmblookup -A 192.168.122.101
>   Looking up status of 192.168.122.101
> D-NO-SMB1   <00> - B 
> D-NO-SMB1   <03> - B 
> D-NO-SMB1   <20> - B 
> ..__MSBROWSE__. <01> -  B 
> WORKGROUP   <00> -  B 
> WORKGROUP   <1d> - B 
> WORKGROUP   <1e> -  B 
>
>   MAC Address = 00-00-00-00-00-00
>
>   andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient -L 192.168.122.101 -N
>   WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>
> Sharename   Type  Comment
> -     ---
> print$  Disk  Printer Drivers
> pub_no_smb1 Disk
> IPC$IPC   IPC Service (d-no-smb1 server (Samba,
> Ubuntu))
>   Reconnecting with SMB1 for workgroup listing.
>   protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
>   Failed to connect with SMB1 -- no workgroup available
>
>   andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient //192.168.122.101/pub_no_smb1 -U
> ubuntu%ubuntu -m NT1
>   WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>   protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
>
>   andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient //192.168.122.101/pub_no_smb1 -U
> ubuntu%ubuntu -m SMB2
>   WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>   Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
>   smb: \> dir
> .   D0  Fri May  3 18:16:38
> 2019
> ..  D0  Fri May  3 18:15:24
> 2019
> hello.txt   N   21  Fri May  3 18:16:12
> 2019
> hello-from-nsnx.txt A9  Fri May  3 18:16:38
> 2019
>
>   20509264 blocks of size 1024. 13121800 blocks
>   available
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-05-02 Thread BloodyIron
Upgraded to Ubuntu 23.04 and the issue persists... Will this ever get
fixed? This is now over 4 years old.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-03-27 Thread William Maddox
@ BloodyIron It looks like the problem you are experiencing is the same
issue as I have had.  I think the reason that it works after you kill
gvfsd-smb-browse is that your FreeNAS server is advertising itself via
mDNS, and gvfsd will see that.  You don't need SMB1 or WSDD for gvfsd to
discover your NAS.  But it is also looking for a "Windows Network" (i.e.
the Windows "network neighborhood" or workgroup that shows up as a
separate subfolder) using SMB1, and that fails if the server does not
provide SMB1.  Crucially, however, it fails in a way that leaves the
gvfsd-smb-browse process in a bad state where it fails to allow browsing
of the server even though it has been discovered via mDNS.  I encourage
you to take a look at my patch, or to use the PPA at
https://launchpad.net/~wmaddox3rd/+archive/ubuntu/gvfs-smb-sharelist-
patch. It does indeed look like there is a bug here in that attempting
discovery via SMB1 somehow breaks browsing of the server discovered via
mDNS.

See also my remarks here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/307#note_1632096

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-03-27 Thread BloodyIron
This is about a bug in this piece of software, and not about finding
another piece of software to take its place. wsdd, as you proposed, is
not included by default in Ubuntu.

The point of seeking a fix for this issue is so that the UX, out of the
box, is better than it is now.

Users should not have to install another tool to get this basic
functionality working.

I would like to remind those reading that this issue was posted ALMOST
FOUR YEARS ago. And the "temporary workaround" is to kill the process so
it reinitalises.

Can we PLEASE get this fixed already?!?!?!?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-03-23 Thread Craig W.
@BloodyIron, please see: https://github.com/christgau/wsdd

I suggest you install as it is a significantly better work-around than
constantly killing the daemon. It is intended to be released in the next
Debian (bookworm) release as a package, I do not know if Ubuntu will
also be including it in their next release. Whether Nautilus will use it
or not, I could not answer to that - I have long since switched to using
Thunar without any issues.

With regards to "If restarting it 'fixers' it, then why on earth does it
break in the first place?" I suggest you see one of the replies here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/307 and further reading
here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/506


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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-03-22 Thread BloodyIron
Fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04 and still happening

WILL THIS EVER GET
FIXED

It's been FIVE YEARS since this first came up (other bugs), and SMB1 has
been off for security reasons for many years now. This User eXperience
is completely garbage, frankly. And no user should realistically be
expected to have to open a cli and kill gvfsd-smb-browse just because we
don't have a proper implementation for this.

It truly begs the question, WHY DOES THIS WORK WHEN THAT PROCESS IS
RESTARTED?

If restarting it "fixers" it, then why on earth does it break in the
first place? And why isn't this already fixed?

For humans in the future, use this command for convenience:

killall gvfsd-smb-browse

And then ctrl+r for future quick recall (in the CLI of your desire).

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-01-04 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
The attachment "Disable broken workgroup discovery/browsing" seems to be
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2023-01-03 Thread William Maddox
Inspired by BloodyIron's comments above, I investigated this issue and
was able to develop a patch that solves this problem for my use case:
browsing NAS devices running TrueNAS and OpenMediaVault.  It appears
that the gvfsd-smb-browse process is left in a bad state after
attempting to mount a workgroup, which occurs either when attempting to
open an URL like smb://WORKGROUP/ or during network discovery in gvfsd-
network.  My patch simply disables workgroup discovery/browsing
functionality, leaving *browsing* functionality intact for servers that
are *discovered* via DNS-SD (mDNS). This does not address the issue of
discovering Windows 10 servers that advertise themselves only via WS-
Discovery, but appears to work fine for devices that advertise
themselves using mDNS, allowing those devices to be successfully
browsed.

I note that workgroups are an obsolete concept in a post-NT1 (post-SMB1)
world, so the offending code should eventually just be yanked out, along
with the addition of support for WS-Discovery in Linux.  My patch does
not address the root cause, as whatever is going wrong while attempting
to mount a workgroup should result in a recoverable error.  I traced
gvfsbackendsmbbrowse.c:do_mount() up to the point at which
smbc_opendir() is called without any surprises, whereupon things went
south.  I did not investigate any further, but if I were to do so, I'd
be inclined to take a look for an unreleased lock.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2022-12-10 Thread Berte
Sill present in Ubuntu 22.04.
Cannot browse samba shares from my NAS. Can connect if I provide the full path 
without browsing.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2022-10-13 Thread C. Jeffery Small
Xubuntu 22.04.1 after upgrading from 20.04

In order to get multiple Windows 10 systems to "discover" the samba
shares on two different Xubuntu systems, I had to re-enable SMB1
protocol on all the Windows systems.  Microsoft apparently keeps
disabling this on system updates.

As reported above, old Windows mapped drive assignments made to Ubuntu
samba shares have continued to work over time, but new shares cannot be
seen unless SMB1 is enabled.  of course, this should all just work using
newer secure protocols.

For a significant piece of server software, the fact that this hasn't
been addressed long ago is a real mystery.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2022-05-20 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2021-09-27 Thread iandol
> I can browse to my SMB shares just by killing and restarting the
gvfsd-smbd process

This magic solution has fixed my problems connecting my 21.04 Ubuntu
clients to a Synology NAS, thank you @BloodyIron (wasting ~60 minutes of
time trying to find a work around).

While waiting for the proper upstream fix if it ever appears, is there
no way to add this workaround into Gnome? When trying to connect to an
SMB and getting a failure, restart gvfsd-smbd in the background and then
when the user tries again, voila, it works without a problem.

I understand Gnome is open-source and I am grateful for all the work of
the volunteers who maintain it!

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2021-08-16 Thread DanW
Hi all, just wondering if there is any update on this at all? I would
just like to add that this is a big issue. I am in an environment where
I wish to disable SMB1 but this bug makes it extremely inconvenient for
users browsing the network. Given that having SMB1 enabled is a security
risk, I would like to echo that we should not have to rely on turning on
SMB1 in order to browse the network. One of the reasons I am attempt to
push more of Linux environment is for security itself, which is ironic
given this bug actually causes a security issue. Thank you.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2021-04-28 Thread C. Jeffery Small
Regarding my previous comment, disregard the issue about Windows 10
having problems accessing the Samba shares.  This turned out to be a
strange password problem with samba.  Resetting the user's password to
the same value that it already was immediately cleared the issue and all
windows machines could once again see the shares.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2021-04-28 Thread C. Jeffery Small
Just to add another voice to the crowd, I'm on Xubuntu 20.04 and I just
ran across this problem myself.

I am using the Nemo file browser, but the same thing occurs with
Nautilus and Thunar.  I didn't notice the problem for a long while
because I had three legacy Windows machines on the network (all running
Windows 10 at this point) and had made file browser bookmarks to the
important shares long ago.  These bookmarks have continued to work to
this day without issue.  I got a new Windows 10 machine a few weeks ago
and was having the problem everyone reports of not being able to connect
("Failed to retrieve share list from server") on the new machine, even
though all the existing bookmarks were still functioning file.  All of
the Windows 10 machines were able to see one another without problem.

Then I ran across this thread and tried Bloodyiron's suggestion of
killing the gvfsd-smb-browse process.  Immediately I was able to connect
to the new machine using Nemo.  I quickly created some needed bookmarks
to the important shares and now I can communicate using the file browser
and expect the new bookmarks to be as reliable as the others.  So I
would suggest this bookmark method to others as a workaround.

This supports Craig W's comment about the difference between discovery
and browsing.  When I run "smbclient -L // -U ", it
reports all of the shares on the target, whether Windows or Linux, with
the closing message: "SMB1 disabled -- no workgroup available" as
expected.

Unfortunately, this is only a one-way solution.  All of the legacy
Windows 10 machines can see and access the Samba shares on the Xubuntu
box, but I haven't yet figured out a way to get the new Windows machine
to access these same shares, with or without gvfsd-smb-browse running.
Every connection attempt is rejected and I haven't found useful messages
in the logs.  If I figure out a solution, I'll post here, and I'm open
to suggestions.

I agree with the general sentiment that for a service as important as
this, there isn't any real excuse for this thing dragging out for two
years as it has.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread Craig W.
My apologies for sidetracking this far trying to explain differences
between discovery and browsing but there seems to be a lot of mixing the
2 as one. The fact that you have "discovered" a server you wish to
"browse" is irrelivant for this bug (afaik you shouldn't have been able
to discover it as there are currently no working mechanisms to do so in
LTS versions judging from the open bug reports). If however you are
experiencing a crash whilst attempting to browse a share of the
discovered host, that is relevant and is to do with the way SMB protocol
versions themselves are being handled.


WRT the rest of the discussion:

SMBv1 leveraged NetBios to do discovery, (as did WINS which was a
fallback discovery method). With SMBv1 removed/disabled, all of the
NetBios discovery is also removed/disabled. Therefore, a discovery
protocol is needed. Enter WSD. SMBv2 and SMBv3 use WSD to discover hosts
on the network, (incidentally WSD was designed for SMBv2 during the
development of Vista to remove the dependancy on NetBios).

If you know the address of a host serving SMBv2 or SMBv3 already (via WSD, any 
other discovery protocol, off by heart), you can just do an SMB request against 
that address:
smbclient --list=<> --user=Anonymous -N


>The discoverability and connectivity works when the process is terminated and 
>restarted. Clearly this is achievable.
> Yes, netbios was used previously, but clearly after killing the process I can 
> reach them without SMB v1, just not after the first boot.

This is still probably nothing more than a cached entry, start-up check
of previously known hosts, or initial broadcast. Some of which may or
may not be unintentional from a security perspective, so as @seb128
said, file another bug report against them if you so wish.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread BloodyIron
I don't use Windows for serving SMB, I was simply linking the reason for
deprecation. FreeNAS, and other non-windows systems serve SMB v2 and
higher for network shares, and WSD is not present, relevant, or desired
in those configurations. WSD is not the solution, nor replacement, and
SMB v2 and v3 have existed for longer than WSD. Yes, netbios was used
previously, but clearly after killing the process I can reach them
without SMB v1, just not after the first boot.

And just because that's the workaround, does not make it warrant another
thread...

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread Craig W.
In the very same article you linked: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us
/windows-server/storage/file-server/troubleshoot/smbv1-not-installed-by-
default-in-windows

With SMBv1 being removed, Network Browser (which depended on SMBv1) was
removed, all of which relied on NetBios being used for discovery.
(Hence, NetBios is dead, long live NetBios).

Microsoft's replacement for NetBios discovery is *drumroll please*: WSD.

I'm completely speculating here but:
Your initial start up effect is probably gvfsd-smbd doing something like a 
Browser Tree scan of last known hosts. This actively goes to the host asking 
about available protocols, shares etc. This is NOT discovery. You could argue 
"well if it already knew about it, how does it lose it?" and that is a fair 
question, to which the answer might well be "Don't want to do an expensive back 
n forth poll, would rather use a discovery protocol", and now we are back to 
the discussion of needing a discovery protocol: WSD.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> I can browse to my SMB shares just by killing and restarting the
gvfsd-smbd process

you should register a new bug then because that's not what that one is about, 
quoting the title
'gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1'

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread BloodyIron
Um, no. Microsoft did not deprecate SMB v1 for WSD, they did it because
it has a blatant security flaw in it :
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/storage-at-microsoft/stop-using-
smb1/ba-p/425858

Furthermore, SMB v2 and v3.x has been out for years, as modern
implementations of the protocol, _not_ WSD.

And again, I can browse to my SMB shares just by killing and restarting
the gvfsd-smbd process, so clearly this has nothing to do with WSD at
all, since that's not in play in my environment at all (I know this
because my FreeNAS system doesn't serve WSD).

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread Craig W.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but actually that is exactly what
this requires. Microsoft phased out the SMBv1 protocol, (NetBios is
dead, long live NetBios), in favour of their new protocol: Web Services
Dynamic Discovery (WSD).  There has been a lot of discussion and work as
to exactly HOW WSD should be implemented for SAMBA and gvfs and what to
do in future if Microsoft do another flip of the switch.

Granted this has taken a lot of time, but as previously mentioned, all
of this discussion and development is dependent on people gratuitously
handing over their free time.  If you want up to date support and to
demand for things to be done, might I politely suggest you fork out for
a Red Hat enterprise subscription.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread BloodyIron
There's no way the solution to this is implementing a new protocol to
replace SMB, that would be absurd. The discoverability and connectivity
works when the process is terminated and restarted. Clearly this is
achievable.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The bug isn't ignored but implementing a new protocol is not trivial,
also you are commenting on the wrong place, Ubuntu isn't writting that
software. Stating that volunteers or companies not doing work for you
for free is unacceptable is probably not going to bring you far
though...

On the bug status, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Bug%20statuses

Triaged is used to describe issues which are understood, there is an
inprogress for work that has started

** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-24 Thread BloodyIron
Getting frustrated because a bug that has existed so long and is key to
network security (connection with SMB1), and has gone ignored for over
1.5 years, is not bad conduct. SMB1 was disabled because of it's
egregious security issues, and having no solution for things like this
as a result is unacceptable.

Yes, I know this is volunteer work, but this ticket should not be marked
Triaged as no work has actually been done on it, and quite frankly, this
should be marked with a higher priority. This kind of functional
behaviour is only going to promote the re-enabling of SMB1 on systems,
which is the complete opposite of what anyone wants.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct. Bug reports are
handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear
this in mind.

There is no fix available at the moment there, unsure why it worked for
you in 19.10, you could try again to check if that's still working...

Upstream would also be a better place to ask if work is planned on a
solution

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Re: [Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-24 Thread Jim Adamson
I second that!!
This is pathetic. 


On November 24, 2020 3:58:16 PM EST, BloodyIron <1828...@bugs.launchpad.net> 
wrote:
>I AM STILL GETTING THIS ISSUE TO THIS DAY. WILL THIS EVER BE FIXED?
>This
>issue was reported over 1.5 YEARS ago and a fix was already made, but
>HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED TO UBUNTU 20.04 WHICH IS THE LONG TERM SUPPORT
>VERSION. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED?
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>Title:
>  gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1
>
>Status in gvfs:
>  Unknown
>Status in gvfs package in Ubuntu:
>  Triaged
>
>Bug description:
>  After bug #1778322 is fixed (just needs a gvfs rebuild with newer
>  samba), samba machines will start to show up again in the "windows
>  network" tab in nautilus. But if a server has disabled the SMB1
>  protocol, nautilus will show an error when that server is clicked on,
>  instead of showing the shares list.
>
>  Even with SMB1 disabled, it should still be technically possible to
>  get a share list, since smbclient can do it:
>
>  andreas@nsnx:~$ nmblookup -A 192.168.122.101
>  Looking up status of 192.168.122.101
>   D-NO-SMB1   <00> - B  
>   D-NO-SMB1   <03> - B  
>   D-NO-SMB1   <20> - B  
>   ..__MSBROWSE__. <01> -  B  
>   WORKGROUP   <00> -  B  
>   WORKGROUP   <1d> - B  
>   WORKGROUP   <1e> -  B  
>
>  MAC Address = 00-00-00-00-00-00
>
>  andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient -L 192.168.122.101 -N
>  WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>
>   Sharename   Type  Comment
>   -     ---
>   print$  Disk  Printer Drivers
>   pub_no_smb1 Disk  
>   IPC$IPC   IPC Service (d-no-smb1 server (Samba,
>Ubuntu))
>  Reconnecting with SMB1 for workgroup listing.
>  protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
>  Failed to connect with SMB1 -- no workgroup available
>
>andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient //192.168.122.101/pub_no_smb1 -U
>ubuntu%ubuntu -m NT1
>  WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>  protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
>
>andreas@nsnx:~$ smbclient //192.168.122.101/pub_no_smb1 -U
>ubuntu%ubuntu -m SMB2
>  WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated
>  Try "help" to get a list of possible commands.
>  smb: \> dir
>.   D0  Fri May  3 18:16:38
>2019
>..  D0  Fri May  3 18:15:24
>2019
>hello.txt   N   21  Fri May  3 18:16:12
>2019
>hello-from-nsnx.txt A9  Fri May  3 18:16:38
>2019
>
>  20509264 blocks of size 1024. 13121800 blocks
>  available
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-11-24 Thread BloodyIron
I AM STILL GETTING THIS ISSUE TO THIS DAY. WILL THIS EVER BE FIXED? This
issue was reported over 1.5 YEARS ago and a fix was already made, but
HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED TO UBUNTU 20.04 WHICH IS THE LONG TERM SUPPORT
VERSION. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-26 Thread BloodyIron
The issue went away for me in 19.10 not long after I saw reports that a
fix was released. And same system, the issue came back when I upgraded
to 20.04.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The upstream bug closing seems buggy since they pointed it as a
duplicate of https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/506 and that
doesn't make much sense. Unsure also there was anything solved in 19.10,
it's just that the situation is confusing and comments don't always
speak about the same issue

** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues #506
   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/506

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Ignore the comment about the duplicate status,
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues/506 is about a request to
implement a new protocol which is what is needed, updating the reference
so the status is correct

** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: Fix Released => Unknown

** Changed in: gvfs
 Remote watch: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/issues #307 => 
gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/-/issues #506

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-26 Thread BloodyIron
Oh I dunno, maybe the "Fix Released" part? You do realise there is code
out there that fixes this that hasn't hit 20.04, right? It was solved in
later 19.10, now broken in 20.04.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Which change do you expact to be made availble? The issue there is due
to clients not handling the fact that the old unsecure protocal is
disabled by default now, that's not coming back though...

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-23 Thread BloodyIron
When is this expected to hit main repos?

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-22 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-15 Thread BloodyIron
Why has this STILL not been rolled out to 20.04??? It was fixed for
19.10, but still not for 20.04...

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-10-15 Thread Malte Deiseroth
This Bug is embarrassing.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-09-28 Thread Jonas Islander
Can confirm the bug is still present in Ubuntu 20.04.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-09-06 Thread BloodyIron
STILL getting this error in Ubuntu 20.04. Just upgraded to 19.10 and I
get this error immediately. How exactly is this not already upstreamed
and fixed already??? >:|

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-06-26 Thread BloodyIron
Really hope this gets solved soon, have to kill the process after
browsing shares every time I reboot.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-06-26 Thread JORGETECH
I believe the real issue is that libsmbclient is still using the
SMB1/NT1 protocol as the maximum, the issue should be solved upstream
since SMB1 is deprecated (disabled by default in newer Samba server
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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-06-12 Thread BloodyIron
But once I nicely kill the process, I not only can connect to the share,
I can still discover network shares. So, I don't really know how to
explain that.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-06-12 Thread Andreas Hasenack
This will only get better once another discovery service is used, since
SMB1 won't come back.

https://github.com/christgau/wsdd is something we could look into

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2020-06-04 Thread BloodyIron
Can we please get this addressed already? This issue persists in 19.10
(haven't tested in 20.04 yet due to unrelated reasons)

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-11-07 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Tags added: desktop-lts-wishlist

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-11-06 Thread BloodyIron
And as a reminder, my "solution" is to:

1. trigger the error by trying to browse to an SMB share with SMB1 disabled on 
the server-side
2. "pidof gvfsd-smb-browse"
3. "kill $PID" from above (regular kill, not -9)

It then works, I can actually get to shares.

I have to do this after _every_ reboot.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-11-06 Thread BloodyIron
So I just upgraded to 19.10 and I am _STILL_ having this issue. I have
had this issue now through two whole major releases! SMB1 being turned
off _SHOULD NOT BREAK THIS_. SMB1 is a _MAJOR_ security threat, and this
really needs to get fixed!

I've been reporting this failure since April of 2019 :/ (started in
another bug report)

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-06-25 Thread Andreas Hasenack
Looks like I missed a notification in
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gvfs/issues/307, I'll followup there

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-06-24 Thread BloodyIron
So... any word on this bug? :S Still getting it.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-05-27 Thread BloodyIron
I too am experiencing this in Ubuntu 19.04.

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[Bug 1828107] Re: gvfs can't list shares from smb servers that disabled SMB1

2019-05-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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2019-05-07 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gvfs
   Status: Unknown => New

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2019-05-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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