[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
could you try? do you have a reference url for the GNOME bug? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
FWIW, I think these gnome bugs illustrate the problem with accessiblity features in gnome. It appears that decisions were made years ago to avoid fixing these problems and complying with the accessX feature set. And my current bug probably is related to the years' old issue in gnome. At least that's my guess from reading these old bug reports: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 Specifically take note of this comment from 10/30/2003 in 95656: " XKB allows this, but it's not clear to me that this behavior is important to users. We _do_ know that the second behavior (latch-to-lock OFF) would cause problems with window navigation in GNOME, so if we do allow the user to switch between behaviors #1 and #2, we will have to deal with the difficult problem of fixing the resulting metacity 'regression'." It seems like gnome has always had the idea that it's too difficult to fix and will cause regressions. ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #95656 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95656 ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #131406 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131406 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Now that this problem can be fixed by removing openoffice.org-gtk, it ought to be easier to troubleshoot. Any ideas how to proceed? ** Description changed: With stickykeys set to work, when I press Alt and I in openoffice.org calc, I get the wrong focus. It should go to the main manu and drop down the Insert. But, instead it goes to the menu File Properties. This is the wrong focus. - This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3. + This is a problem in both gnome and xfce4, but works ok on kde-3 or + kde-4. + + edit 25May09: I recently updated to karmic alpha and experience the same + problem on the latest openoffice.org version 3.1.0. + + However, I notice that if I uninstall the package openoffice.org-gtk + that this problem is fixed. So, the bug appears to be in that package. -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-control-center -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Yes this still is a problem. Not only is it a problem within the gnome desktop, it's also a problem within xfce4 desktop. Both are based on gtk. Is it possible that gtk is the problem. I filed this bug on 6/18/08, but no developer has commented. Does that mean it will never get fixed? -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
Thanks for your reply. A bug has to be confirmed by someone else than the reporter. That's usually the minimum to get a developer having a look at it, because the bug could be present on your machine only. However, I am assigning this bug to gtk as you suggested, this might be better than gnome-control-center. Btw: What exactly do you mean by "stickykeys" ? ** Changed in: gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gnome-control-center => gtk+2.0 -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 240933] Re: gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice
If you try sticky keys you will never want to go back. Sticky keys are part of the X accessibility package. When enabled, it causes the Control, Alt, Win, and Shift (any modifier) keys to stay engaged until the next key is pressed. For example, if you want to hit the key combination Alt-f to open the file menu, without sticky keys, you must press the Alt and f keys at the same time. For most of us, hitting 2 keys at the same time takes 2 hands. With sticky keys, you can hit the Alt, release it and then hit the f key. It will be interpreted as though they were hit at the same time. This is an extremely helpful feature whenever you're using a cramped keyboard, as most laptops have today. Also, anyone who doesn't want to use a mouse enjoys this feature, because it's easier to use keyboard (combination) shortcuts to get around the desktop. Try it and I think you'll become a user. Unfortunately, if you use gnome, you'll get a buggy implementation (search and you will find other bugs about gnome and sticky keys). But, kde-3.5.x has it implemented perfectly (even better than M$)! -- gnome stickykey does not work on openoffice https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
