[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
@Sebastien, if Hardy users have a bug they don't mind if it's fixed in next distro release. A bug in Hardy fixed in Intrepid remains a bug and Ubuntu is responsible for this, as sayd by Mark Shuttleworth, in his blog, on Friday, June 27th, 2008 (Ubuntu’s role in bug management for the whole free software stack). If backports are not scheduled, I think the only solution is to port fixed f-spot (but in general fixed packages) in Hardy too and until then I find a mistake to close a bug that isn't fixed in Hardy that, what's more, is out from just 6 months and it's a LTS release. -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
why do you mention f-spot on this bug? the bugs are closed when fixed in the current ubuntu version, an hardy task can be opened if the bug should be fixed there too. the ubuntu team doesn't have the manpower to backport all the fix in the stable version and updating versions wouldn't make sense either you can as well use intrepid if you want those -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
Excuse me for mentioning f-spot. Obviously I meant evolution (I reported a comment on a f-spot bug some seconds before :-)) I think if we want that the user should always run after to the last release this is the right way (but is this our real target?), but then, please, let's drop the word support for 12 months, or 18 months, etc etc. Let's drop LTS. If users install Ubuntu Hardy LTS, and perhaps they buy support from Ubuntu, and perhaps they use it in a business environment, they don't mind the last release. We cannot say to them (after only 6 months from the Hardy came out) if you want a fixed package you have to install Intrepid. We can say this if users should use addictional functionalities but not if he demands a bug fix. If we haven't the manpower to backport all the fix into the current stable release ...well... then we have to realize of this and perhaps changing some things (different scheduling releases, concentrating our efforts in bug fixing, etc. etc). At last you have definitely more experience in Ubuntu (I have been a Ubuntu user for only 6 months) and more karma than me: if you think that the things have to go in this way the bug is fixed. -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
users don't have to run a current unstable version or a non lts version if they don't want to. it's just not possible to backport every code change to a stable version or it would be a copy of the unstable version (since it has the same changes) and would not be stable. the important fixes are usually backported to stable though. this bug is an annoyance but is not a crash, not destroying datas, not breaking configuration, has not been requested by lot of users and is easy to workaround it just doesn't qualify has a high priority change for a stable version -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
@Sebastien, I tried the issue in Intrepid as you asked to me and I have to say that in this distro the problem was fixed. I expect it will be fixed in Hardy too as I sayd in my previous post. -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
the bugs are not fixed by the ubuntu team but by the people writting the software, thousand of bugs have been fixed in intrepid and everything can't be backported in hardy, closing the bug since that's fixed in intrepid, an hardy backport can be considered later though ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
It seems that evolution still downloads emails as I sayd in my second post. Maybe I will try to test this issue in Intrepid as you say but I don't understand why many bugs are resolved in Intrepid and not in Hardy. Isn't this last a LTS distro which should have additional stabilization (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/releases)? The consistent way should be to resolve bugs first in LTS and not in newer non LTS, still alpha, distros. -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
the gdb log has no stacktrace, does it hang or does the status bar keeps being updated and it's just downloading? there is similar issues which have been fixed in intrepid, could you give a try to the new version? -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
@Pedro, I forgot to attach the backtrace. Excuse me. I'll do it this evening. -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
** Attachment added: gdb-evolution.txt.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16646945/gdb-evolution.txt.gz -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
** Attachment added: strace-evolution.log.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16649623/strace-evolution.log.gz -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
@Pedro, I backtraced my evolution, with gdb, when I closed it during email download (unfortunally you will see no debugging symbols found as I cannot install yelp-dbgsym as sayd in bug 255863) but you can see that the program exits normally after I close it. The issue is related to the fact that, as I sayd, evolution while downloading email takes too long to close (in my last test with gdb, with a GPRS connection, about 20-25 minutes). I backtraced it also with strace (in this situation evolution closed in 2-3 minutes). I think the issue is related to some operations that evolutions make after you close it. These operations seems to be related to the specific email that evolution was downloading when you close it: if this email is too big it takes too long to close (and with a slow connection this problem is very clear). -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 254785] Re: I cannot close evolution during email download
Thanks for your bug report. Please try to obtain a backtrace of the hang http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash and attach the file to the bug report. This will greatly help us in tracking down your problem. ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: New = Incomplete -- I cannot close evolution during email download https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/254785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
