[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: gtkhtml3.14 Status: New => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 Title: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/288185/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
For those who are still having murderous thoughts in 2012 (and likely later), pressing "CTRL-SHIFT-V" (paste quoted text) in the editor window will create a nice block of correct, editable ASCII text. You can use this as follows: 1) highlight the message body in Evolution's main window, CTRL-C 2) hit reply 3) After the "On 2012-09-18 . wrote:", hit CTRL-SHIFT-V 4) Wonder at how beautiful ASCII is 5) Promptly terminate the evolution-generated HTML ugliness below. 6) Wonder how longer it will take for devs to realize that inserting HTML in a PLAIN TEXT message is plain stupid. 7) ... Profit! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 Title: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/288185/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: gtkhtml3.14 Importance: Unknown => Low -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
Can someone explain the status change (from unknown to new)? Just curious. Also curious whether there will be action on this, it continues to be a usability pain. Thanks! -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: gtkhtml3.14 Status: Unknown => New -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
still open :( really annoying to have table boxes in a plain text reply. it's nearly impossible to do inline replys. so, sebastian, i don't get the point why this should be useful in plain text mode. this is a bug, not a feature. and this is not windows, we like to work with real text. -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Package changed: evolution (Ubuntu) => gtkhtml3.14 (Ubuntu) ** Also affects: gtkhtml3.14 via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558131 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: evolution Importance: Unknown => Undecided ** Changed in: evolution Remote watch: GNOME Bug Tracker #558131 => None ** Changed in: evolution Status: New => Invalid -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
Still an issue in Ubuntu 9.04 and Evolution 2.26.1 -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
I've had this problem since I started using Ubuntu a couple of years ago. It's annoyed me ever since. How can we get these silly formatting "boxes" with dotted lines around them to just go away? When I create a new email, I already have one of these little boxes covering the first line. This prevents the pasting of text into the email until I delete the formatting box. Also, when I paste certain things into an email, they appear inside one of these boxes, and then cant be broken up and reformatted... Where is the "No, when I said NO FORMATTING, I really, honestly, truthfully, meant what I just damned well said" option? -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
I can add info to this behavior: It is not restricted to plain-text mode - also occurs in html. The inconvenience is that it become impossible to split lines in the quote, say, to insert a reply. The workaround is to copy the text inside the format box and then past- as-quotation to the end - then erase the entire format box. Examining the page source when this happens shows me that the original email was formatted using a table. Splitting a line in the quote would involved adding additional tags to end the row, the columb, and the table, then restart it again. The formatting seems to be to allow some services to add advertising, or other non-user message, to a footer below the email text. -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: evolution Status: Unknown => New -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Triaged -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Changed in: evolution Importance: Undecided => Unknown Bugwatch: None => GNOME Bug Tracker #558131 Status: New => Unknown -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
Any news about this? did you sent it upstream? ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
Re no auto-function: fair point. No sense lowering S/N everywhere! Re opening upstream: Will do. Guess I needed my frustration levels to drop low enough to accept what must be done. I'll try to get that report in within the next few days, then add the link here. -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
there is no function to automatically send bugs upstream, changes to do that have been discussed several time but that's not something which has been done yet, the tool would probably not copy the bug upstream anyway because making it too easy for users to copy a bug upstream would also mean lowering the quality of the bugs opened there to come back to the topic I don't agree on what the text option should do, the option is there to not send html text but having all the formatting choices for example is still useful. usually the ubuntu bug triagers send bugs to the upstream bug tracker but in this case you seem to have a strong opinion on the topic and what the option should be doing so it's better if you open the bug there so you can reply to their comment directly rather than having a bug triager who has no opinion on what the option should be doing sending comments between the bug tracker -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
This is not a "I wish it were otherwise" feature request: This is an accessibility and usability bug. When a user makes a data format input/display choice, a choice supported by the software, they are making an accessibility choice. If the software gets it wrong, the software requires correction. If I choose plain-text, I should get text as plain as in this form, as in vi, as on a piece of paper. No bells-and-whistles, no attempts to be helpful, no attempts to second-guess what I *really* meant. Either of the latter is simply paternalistic and contrary to be best principles of usability and accessibility. On a side-note, should there not be a simple "click to forward upstream" option? Forcing a user make the same effort a second time is far too close to the "you got it wrong, n00b" response far too common in the floss world. The "also affects project" option does not appear to have the right result (which is to let the computer do as much of the work as possible). -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
** Also affects: evolution Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 288185] Re: Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text
the request is an upstream wishlist and should be sent on bugzilla.gnome.org ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Evolution plain-text email includes formatting "stuff" - should be pure plain text https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/288185 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs