[Bug 296867] Re: Empathy needs to support OTR encryption
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1616956 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1616956 Could someone explain how OTR request is duplicate of OMEMO request? As far as I am aware, Empathy supports multiple instant messaging protocols which all support OTR as it's not tied to any specific protocol. On the other hand OMEMO is XMPP-only and not yet formalized XMPP extension, so by considering this as a duplicate I believe users of those other protocols are left without option for end-to-end encryption. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: Empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: Empathy needs to support OTR encryption
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1616956 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1616956 ** Summary changed: - empathy needs to support OTR encryption + Empathy needs to support OTR encryption ** Tags added: otr ** Tags added: messaging ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1616956 Empathy needs to support OMEMO encryption -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: Empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Tags removed: 14.04 ** Tags added: yakkety -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #93090 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93090 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Changed in: libtelepathy Importance: Wishlist => Critical -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
No idea - I've long migrated to software which cares enough about security not to have critical bugs opened for 5 years. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
How will this be marked as complete on freedomsponsors? How do we pay Xavier? Sam On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:32 PM, G4JC <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Just so everyone knows, this has been completed quite some time ago via > a bounty developer on FreedomSponsors. > > However, upstream is furiously continuing to ignore the patch and keep > their users insecure. > Source of upstream stupidity: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891#c46 > > Read More about how the patch was made: > > https://freedomsponsors.org/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr-encryption > > PoC working patch: https://launchpad.net/~zdra/+archive/ubuntu/otr > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Just so everyone knows, this has been completed quite some time ago via a bounty developer on FreedomSponsors. However, upstream is furiously continuing to ignore the patch and keep their users insecure. Source of upstream stupidity: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891#c46 Read More about how the patch was made: https://freedomsponsors.org/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr-encryption PoC working patch: https://launchpad.net/~zdra/+archive/ubuntu/otr -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Ick! If telepathy makes doing OTR securely impossible, that's very bad news. We should lobby to remove Empathy and telepathy from Debian stable and Ubuntu then. OTR is critical post Snowden. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
As good as dead if you care about security. Luckily there are plethora of alternatives out there with OTR support. See http://otr.im for details. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #729762 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729762 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I just logged in to say thank you! I am so happy to see this eventually finished. Thank you so much. :) Hope to see this soon merged into mainline. Thanks again :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Just because the conversation is encrypted end to end doesnt mean you cant log locally. Dont know how empathy does this, but in pidgin it can be set up easily. There is even an option to omiss the conversations that are encrypted. I dont really like that distinction, because it implies all encrypted communication is sensitive. Rather its best to moreso always encrypt so that you dont draw attention to something by said connection. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I think people are trying provoke a post-Snowden comment from the devs or
Ubuntu.
This uncomfortable discussion has an important social role in establishing
or restoring or writing off credibility.
Pre-Snowden the official position seemed incredible, but potentially
honestly held.
It may even have been part of the Ubuntus baffling but consistent long term
strategy of replacing working software with half finished software.
But post-Snowden we see an opportunity to discover if they are accidental
helps or wilful supporters of the evil empire.
Thus are reputations forged.
Sam
On 28 Apr 2014 20:15, "Chris Kerr" wrote:
> I'm not complaining about people who spend time auditing security
> software and finding these bugs making their discoveries known - even if
> they are less than polite while doing so. (I myself am taking maximum
> advantage of the opportunity to poke fun at ridiculous or borderline
> fraudulent statements I've spotted during my literature review - it's
> one of the few redeeming features of writing a PhD thesis.) They are
> just as crucial as and even less appreciated than the developers.
> Certainly if I get round to writing this code it will need their
> attention.
>
> What I don't like are people who do nothing except repeat something we
> already know ("This software doesn't do X. People want it to do X.") but
> louder and more rudely.
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[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I'm not complaining about people who spend time auditing security
software and finding these bugs making their discoveries known - even if
they are less than polite while doing so. (I myself am taking maximum
advantage of the opportunity to poke fun at ridiculous or borderline
fraudulent statements I've spotted during my literature review - it's
one of the few redeeming features of writing a PhD thesis.) They are
just as crucial as and even less appreciated than the developers.
Certainly if I get round to writing this code it will need their
attention.
What I don't like are people who do nothing except repeat something we
already know ("This software doesn't do X. People want it to do X.") but
louder and more rudely.
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[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
> Now it's time to get encryption > I also feel that Canonical should be funding > They really ought to make it work in empathy Because open source is all about freedom. The freedom to demand that other people should do free work for you. Sorry, these comments are not helpful. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
>From comments when this first arose, the empathy developers were not interested in something that was interoperable with OTR, but might, someday, be interested in their own unique snowflake of an encryption system. I'm not a coder, but OTR is out there, works, and plays well with others. They really ought to make it work in empathy, one way or another. Perhaps there is a new bug that people might pay attention to, given the emphasis on crypto these days? On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:23 PM, WhyteHorse wrote: > I also feel that Canonical should be funding this or providing > developers since they made it the default for Ubuntu and exposed all > their users to sending cleartext personal info over the internet. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Papercuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very solid and > stable. There were a few minor things that could be improved (e.g. > automatically resizing the contact list), but that is not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing OTR > support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really important > feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions > -- Plato seems wrong to me today. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I also feel that Canonical should be funding this or providing developers since they made it the default for Ubuntu and exposed all their users to sending cleartext personal info over the internet. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Please bump the priority for this. If you can't add OTR support then please give instructions how to add a plugin. I've been waiting patiently for several years for this support. I was thrilled to see an IM client get audio and video support on Linux. Now it's time to get encryption. We have the evil US empire spying on human rights activists, protesters, etc and by not supporting encryption we're enabling that spying. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Updated URL for JPRvita's Spec: https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos /telepathy-gabble/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I think they are waiting for a "clean" well specified standard maybe with "nsa approved" security ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I am sorry if you feel that I have disappeared. I did not intend it that way. I did what I could to help. The developers of empathy stated that they could not implement OTR unless they had a spec first. They also forced the issue that my spec had to include XTLS. I am only a novice programer and certianly not a spec writer, I also volunteered for far more then I could handle hoping that OTR would be a welcome addition to Telepathy. Unfortunately even after the Spec was ready for review, it never recieved a review. I also was working in Python as that is what I program in, and Telepathy removed support for Python around this same time. JPRvita told me that he would take my spec and complete it for XTLS and that he could program in C. For a long time it looked like this would work. JPRvita had a solid spec, but as happend with me the spec was never reviewed, I am not sure what happened to him and his GSoC XTLS/OTR Spec for Telepathy. References: http://jprvita.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/otr-over-xmpp-on-telepathy/ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2011-June/005583.html Honestly my take is that this is a developer issue, they don't want OTR and no one can force it upon them. So I got over it and I use Pidgin. FYI for "cbris" or "ScotlandHacks" you should use jprvita's Spec it was much further along than mine, it is here: https://gitorious.org/jprvita- repos/telepathy-gabble/source/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
https://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr- encryption $942 Maybe someone is willing to spend some time on this. I tried at a point to gather some support, but well the core developers of empathy believe OTR is a bad idea, and well jprvita is not willing to continue with the project, wolfrage seems to have disappeared and so on. Anyway, trolling won't help, just a reminder that the bounty is now higher. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Tags removed: 12.10 ** Tags added: 14.04 ** Tags added: im -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Thi bug depend of thi one: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 There are crownd funding project with one or two student who work on. The find are to 450 $ http://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/333/telepathy-should-support-otr-encryption -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Bounty is now at 400 USD. Make that 4000 USD and someone with the required skills can spend a month between two jobs collecting it. Sadly, FreedomSponsors seems quite unpopular, so that people in the right position might not see the tender offer. Are there perhaps other platforms one could advertise for it? Maybe freelancing sites or so? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Bengt Lüers I agree with all your points. But none of the empathy dev want to do it. No-one who is capable of doing it wants to do it. I was just trying to summarise why that might be the case. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Maybe the GNOME folks would share a bit of their $20,000 that they raised to enhance security and privacy for the GNOME desktop? https://www.gnome.org/news/2013/07/gnome-raises-2-to-enhance- security-and-privacy/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@sam-liddicott Empathy does not need to support OTR, because *there are no* alternatives that do. Empathy needs to support OTR, because *there are* alternatives that do. It is state of the art to support OTR and Empathy not including it is backward. Empathy is the instant messenger included the GNOME desktop which ships as a default for many modern distributions, so Empathy is itself a default. An user could educate oneself about this default, notice this backwardness and replace Empathy with a less backward instant messenger. Educating oneself about the security of the installed instant messenger requires but examination that not all users may be able to perform, because of the complexity of the topic. So especially the less computer literate users, who would benefit the most from it will not get covered by OTR. So this boils down to a question of defaults: Should the default be to ship an instant messenger with OTR-support with GNOME desktop? I think recent revelations have shown that "security by default" should have been targeted wherever possible for a long time now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
pidgin was written by problem solvers empathy is written by architects they have different itches to scratch. Those who want encryption still use pidgin. It still works. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Pander <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_scandal > should be a good motivator to speed up support for OTR. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_scandal should be a good motivator to speed up support for OTR. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Might there be new interest in seeing this one through, in light of the recent revelations? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Could someone create feature request funding at https://www.catincan.com/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
It may be worth approaching the guy who did it for pidgin. An alternative might be to write a shim library so that pidgin plugins would work with empathy. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Justin Alan Ryan < serial.rocks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do we have someone who can commit to doing this work if funding shows > up? I'm happy to help promote a kickstarter campaign. > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Pablo Castellano > wrote: > > No deadline extension is possible, they have received a lot of > > proposals. > > > > They told me that there will be another funding round this year. > > > > -- > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > > report. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > > > Title: > > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions > > > -- > http://about.me/justizin > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Do we have someone who can commit to doing this work if funding shows up? I'm happy to help promote a kickstarter campaign. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Pablo Castellano wrote: > No deadline extension is possible, they have received a lot of > proposals. > > They told me that there will be another funding round this year. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- http://about.me/justizin -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
No deadline extension is possible, they have received a lot of proposals. They told me that there will be another funding round this year. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Yesterday I sent OpenITP an email regarding a possible deadline extension but they haven't answered yet. I'll let you know if they answer me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
You could also consider a Kickstarter campaign. Don't expect a fortune but maybe enough to compensate your efforts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I'm willing to do it! I think it's worth asking, Pablo. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
It might be worth asking if we can get an exension on the deadline -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
My idea comes one day late as the deadline was yesterday :( OpenITP is looking for projects to fund. Eligible projects must work on improving users' ability to circumvent censorship and surveillance on the Internet. So OTR support for Empathy fits perfectly! http://openitp.org/?q=openitp_first_round_of_2013_project_funding_now_open_for_proposals What do you think? Should we keep one eye on this kind of fundings and get someone paid to do it? I have no idea about who would be willing to do it but I'm sure you guys can find one person in the community. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I would love to jump in and tackle this: I'm a developer, I want to switch to Empathy. I know lots of developers work on things they care about in their free time; I can't afford to do that right now. Without turning this into a classified ad, I'll simply suggest that anyone interested in helping me with this (or talking to me more! I like meeting people anyway) email me via my profile. Mods: if this is an inappropriate comment, I sincerely apologize and will never do it again. I can make this happen if a lot of people help me, and it seems there are a lot of people who care and use this forum to stay up to date. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
OK, soon gsoc will start again. Maybe it can used to find someone who will implement OTR in telepathy. Does anybody has good connection to telepathy/gnome/fdo developers to ask if they would provide a mentor for such a project? What really annoys me about the otr integration in telepathy is the lack of information you get. People (e.g. jprvita, McVittie) come and go. Someone never hear something again about the project and the status. There are some questions in my head. Something like, is the approach of jpvita usefull for furher devlopment. If it's useful, what needs to be done to finish it? I think it would be useful to have a wiki page with such kind of informations. I can't believe that nobody is willing to code on this, so the question seems to be what keeps developers away from coding on this or vice versa what incentives must be given that someone is willing to work on otr implementation. P.S. Don't get me wrong I don't want to blame anybody with this post. It presents just a couple of questions which have risen in my head. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Changed in: libtelepathy (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Tags added: encryption -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I love empathy, but it lacks a off the record plugin or encryption like in adium or pidginit is a shame, as empathy is such a great messaging client. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Tags added: 12.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Update from telepathy mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2012-June/006122.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Ronny Rabuzarus, I did not discuss OTR further with the developers since there was no way to use it at the time. They are always aviable via #telepathy on freenode IRC. Keep me updated if kde-telepathy gets OTR, I have KDE as one of my desktops and that would be a good reason to use KDE more often! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Jordan Farrell >I could talk with them latter this week and see if they would merge it, but >still what good would it do with no way to use it? There are also some requests regarding otr for kde-telepathy. But the the delopers could only start to implement it in kde-telpathy after the integration of otr happend in telepathy. By the way, have you talked with the the telepathy developers? Any response? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
This bug and the zRTP one are crucial for privacy and security reasons yet they are already 3.5 and 2.5 years old, respectively. Would it be possible to go crowdfunding or something similar in order to speed up the addition of OTR and zRTP to telepathy and empathy? It would be great to have out of the box encrypted chat/voip/video on Ubuntu, specially when the Ubuntu phone comes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Danny Piccirillo: jprvita is not needed for a merge because it is Git, any one could just clone it. The code has to be merged into main-line telepathy and that has to be approved by the lead telepathy developers. I don't know how stable that code is, but they will not accept unstable code into the mainline. I could talk with them latter this week and see if they would merge it, but still what good would it do with no way to use it? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Can that be merged for now and then the Empathy UI can be worked on? Is jprvita needed for the merge? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Sam Liddicott as I stated before the code is hosted here: https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.c https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.h The code for OTR is mostly done for telepathy-gabble that is; but there is no front end code for empathy to actually implement this code. That is where the project was dropped. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Can some paypal help? I'm clean out of time... Is the nearly-done code committed anywhere? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
That sounds great! It's really needed. Let us know if we can assist somehow -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Most of the work for this is complete, but project has stalled. Perhaps if I have time again latter I can get a hack together. ** Changed in: libtelepathy (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Incomplete ** Changed in: libtelepathy (Ubuntu) Assignee: Jordan Farrell (wolfrage) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
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[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@ Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman (fenris): At this moment i don't see OTR in Emapthy's preference :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
This bug is not in relation ?? Please include support for RFC6189 (ZRTP): https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/816163 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
can we have OTR in precise milestone ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
obviously a wasted effort it seems, because the programmer disappeared. all went fine until july 27,2011 when something snapped, and no more updates or signs of life from the programmer (jprvita) he kept posting on the blog and even met with telepathy programmers in berlin, but it seems about other stuff no more work on this project, and once again there is need for a new person to continue it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
+1 I am tired of pidgin and very interested in Empathy. But i depend on OTR, so i cannot switch. I know 5 others in my local geekosphere who have the same. OTR is unaware of the layer below. That makes it clumsy or unelegant to implement for an individual protocol like XMPP. But at the same thime this is a strength: a multi-protocol IM client with OTR has end-to-end security with the same key pair on all protocols used. And that is elegant again :-) Calling that "broken by design" is a narrow view and missing the point of OTR. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Jedna et all, I have found that the code for implementing OTR in Telepathy.Gabble is complete as shown here: https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.c https://gitorious.org/jprvita-repos/telepathy-gabble/blobs/otr/src/im-channel-otr.h Which will mean support for OTR in Google chat, Jabber, XMPP, and FaceBook. It is just the work for integration into Empathy that needs to be completed, I am waiting to here back from Jprvita on how that is going. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Jedna Dvatři, I am willing to push forward on OTR again if need be. First I am going to try to reach out to Jprvita one more time. This is what I know right now which is rather out dated and it does show that according to his time-line it should be done, but deadlines can be hard when dealing with so many peices of code that need to be implemented. https://live.gnome.org/JoaoPauloRechiVita_Telepathy_OTR But I am also pretty sure that the code for Telepathy.Gabble was completed to support OTR. I think he was bogged down when he started trying to integrate it into Empathy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
It seems that in spite of the good work of Jordan and other volunteers, development of this widely desired feature is falling through the cracks. Will it be possible to regroup and finish this work if jprvita is not available to help? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 14 Apr 2011, at 04:34, mitzip <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Jordan, > > Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That > would be > awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be > switching > my business and family over to Ubuntu. > > Thanks for your work on this, > David > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a member of > Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > In Progress > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very > solid and stable. There were a few minor things that could be > improved (e.g. automatically resizing the contact list), but that is > not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing > OTR support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really > important feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption > standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 14 Apr 2011, at 07:12, Jordan Farrell <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Actually, it would be impossible to have made the cut for 11.04 just > because the day I started the project I would have only had two weeks > to get something pushed through and then approved for the code freeze > date. However I am shooting for 11.10 and I now have two more people > that will be helping me with it. The major push for the project will > begin in mid-May and hopefully our code will be accepted before 11.10. > But initially their may only be support for Google and MSN, possibly > Yahoo. The rest will follow those and Google and MSN should be > completed about the same time. The reason for MSN being supported so > early is that the connection manager for it was programmed in Python, > which is the language I have more experince in. > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:34 AM, mitzip <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> > wrote: > Jordan, > > Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That > would be > awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be > switching > my business and family over to Ubuntu. > > Thanks for your work on this, > David > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > In Progress > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very > solid and stable. There were a few minor things that could be > improved (e.g. automatically resizing the contact list), but that is > not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing > OTR support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really > important feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption > standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscribe > > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a member of > Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > In Progress > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very > solid and stable. There were a few minor things that could be > improved (e.g. automatically resizing the contact list), but that is > not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing > OTR support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really > important feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption > standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 ** Attachment added: "unnamed" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867/+attachment/2233553/+files/unnamed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I'm out of the office until 1st August. On 5 May 2011, at 01:27, Mark M <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I've been tracking this bug over the years and am very happy to hear > momentum is gaining. I'd humbly like to put forward a use case that > may > or may not affect how the implementation is performed. > > I regularly use OTR via Pigdin to securely communicate from a jabber > account through a private jabber server then through a IM gateway to > many AIM, MSN and Yahoo accounts (required by work). This is one of > the > areas where OTR shines as it is protocol independent. One of the > reasons > that OTR managed to gain popularity is its entire protocol is > wrapped in > the text that is transferred between users (read as, "it just works"). > It manages to avoid all sorts of complexity and issues by staying > entirely out of the existing IM protocols including any sort of server > side changes or support. > > Adding encryption into the jabber protocol (XTLS/Jingle) doesn't help > unless there are encryption and federation standards that are > supported > across all IM protocols and i'd imagine that would be harder to get > implemented than this bug. =) > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a member of > Papercutters, which is subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > In Progress > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very > solid and stable. There were a few minor things that could be > improved (e.g. automatically resizing the contact list), but that is > not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing > OTR support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really > important feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption > standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Hi Anand, I have pulled back work on a pythonic fix for the Telepathy OTR situation. But before I did that João Paulo Rechi Vita started advancing my work and has since completed all of the spec work for OTR. He is now building the Telepathy Gabble OTR code and will then finish the Empathy hooks that will be needed for OTR support. Gabble is the Connection manager for Jabber and Google Chat. He hopes to have all of his work wrapped up by the end of this month. His website is here: http://jprvita.wordpress.com/ He is a more seasoned developer than I and he was able to communicate with the Telepathy Developers better and faster than I was able to. Sorry for bugging out, but the pace of his work far out paced my work. But I am still watching developments for this project and will ensure it gets completed, but I am pretty sure João has got it. Once his work becomes a solid spec I may still go back and finish the Python version which will add support for MSN. I also think that porting his code from Gabble to Haze should not be too difficult, which should round out the the IM OTR support. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Hi Jordon, You indicated in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 that there would be a monthly update. And earlier you indicated that people should watch: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=29904 Do you have a code repository that someone can checkout and assist you with thing can see? Thanks, Anand -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Jordan: It's great to know someone is working on it - I'm available for testing too, as unfortunately I have no real Python coding experience. As for python-OTR, [1] has released the first beta of the pure python implementation protocol, it doesn't seem the authors are dropping the support for a python bridge, but it's true, they mention the "deprecated" C-style bindings that were available before. [1] http://python-otr.pentabarf.de/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@ZAP: Thanks for volunteering. I will let you know when I have something concrete. I am still tinkering and there have been some changes to implement OTR only rather than accommodating XTLS too. One thing I have to be careful of is that OTR is considering dropping support for Python- OTR, which could be a problem for me. But for the Google IM and Jabber this will not be a problem. João Paulo Rechi Vita is helping to get the spec right and will be writing the code for the Gabble CM. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
@Jordan: There are a lot of us OTR junkies waiting in the wings to congratulate you when you get this done. I'd really like to use Empathy on my Gnome 3 system, but sometimes I really need OTR and it's not an option not to use it. When you have code that can be tested, I'd be very happy to give it a try and let you know if I find any bugs. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
In response to Mark M, I think this is why PGP also took off and is more widely known than S/MIME. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I've been tracking this bug over the years and am very happy to hear momentum is gaining. I'd humbly like to put forward a use case that may or may not affect how the implementation is performed. I regularly use OTR via Pigdin to securely communicate from a jabber account through a private jabber server then through a IM gateway to many AIM, MSN and Yahoo accounts (required by work). This is one of the areas where OTR shines as it is protocol independent. One of the reasons that OTR managed to gain popularity is its entire protocol is wrapped in the text that is transferred between users (read as, "it just works"). It manages to avoid all sorts of complexity and issues by staying entirely out of the existing IM protocols including any sort of server side changes or support. Adding encryption into the jabber protocol (XTLS/Jingle) doesn't help unless there are encryption and federation standards that are supported across all IM protocols and i'd imagine that would be harder to get implemented than this bug. =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Actually, it would be impossible to have made the cut for 11.04 just because the day I started the project I would have only had two weeks to get something pushed through and then approved for the code freeze date. However I am shooting for 11.10 and I now have two more people that will be helping me with it. The major push for the project will begin in mid-May and hopefully our code will be accepted before 11.10. But initially their may only be support for Google and MSN, possibly Yahoo. The rest will follow those and Google and MSN should be completed about the same time. The reason for MSN being supported so early is that the connection manager for it was programmed in Python, which is the language I have more experince in. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:34 AM, mitzip <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Jordan, > > Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That would be > awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be switching > my business and family over to Ubuntu. > > Thanks for your work on this, > David > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: > Confirmed > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: > Invalid > Status in Telepathy framework - library: > Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: > Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: > In Progress > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very solid and > stable. There were a few minor things that could be improved (e.g. > automatically resizing the contact list), but that is not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing OTR > support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really important feature > because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscribe > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Jordan, Is there any hope to get it in the final release of 11.04? That would be awesome!! The first Ubuntu release with OTR in empathy I'll be switching my business and family over to Ubuntu. Thanks for your work on this, David -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Thanks ... lots of people want OTR in empathy. Steve On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Jordan Farrell <296...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > David, their is no more resistance among the developers. I am working on > it, but for this month my time is still limited. But by mid May I will > have a lot more time to dedicate to this project. SO please stay > hopeful, OTR is coming to Empathy I promise. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > > Title: > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscribe > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
David, their is no more resistance among the developers. I am working on it, but for this month my time is still limited. But by mid May I will have a lot more time to dedicate to this project. SO please stay hopeful, OTR is coming to Empathy I promise. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Clearly this is a really sort after feature why is it being ignored? Why is there so much resistance to OTR? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I just wanted to mention that this is a critical bug for people who lives in autocratic regimes like Iran whose Internet activities is constantly under supervision. Specially now that people are using virtual medias to organize their event. Several people has been arrested in Iran during past year because their unencrypted emails was intercepted by the authority. I don't think there's an issue more critical than decreasing the number of prisoners of conscience. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
For updates on this bugs status please watch these two bugs: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org//show_bug.cgi?id=29904. 29904 will be the most active initially well the end-to-end security spec is ironed out enough to support OTR and hopefully future protocols. Once activity begins on 16891, we should be on the way to full OTR support for Telepathy/Empathy. ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #29904 http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29904 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Changed in: libtelepathy Importance: Unknown => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Pander, I do not see the relation between this bug and aMSN, does aMSN use Telepathy for it's back-end? The OTR patch for Empathy is actually being applied by providing OTR support in Telepathy, which is the back- end for Empathy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
If, after Pidgin, Emphaty is also going to support this, aMSN should support this too in my opinion. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amsn/+bug/216872 for "Yes, this affects me." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Changed in: libtelepathy Importance: Wishlist => Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
This constitutes a feature request and is thus outwith the definition of a papercut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
All, I have already been speaking with the Telepathy developers, there is certianly no way the work can be completed by Natty, but I think I will have a patch by or before 11.10. I am currently gathering details for my proposal, which will get tweaked and then be drafted into a Spec for Telepathy. Once that is correct and complete, I will begin to code the patch according to the Spec. Telepathy developers are taking care of me; so I will not need a sponsor; as they are my mentors, reviewers, and sponsors. I will be posting back here with updates about once a month, all other updates will be made via the mailing-list for Telepathy and/or #telepathy @ freenode. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
> If I submitted a patch and it got reviewed and approved prior to feature freeze then the patch would be committed correct? If upstream agrees on the way the fix is done yes > I see the release date for Natty is April 28, 2011, but when would the feature freeze date be? the reply to that was in the previous comment > I also had a question about sponsorship, if I create a branch and then submit it with a correct debdiff, then someone will review it and thus sponsor me at that time, automatically? Either use a debdiff and subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors team or do a merge request on launchpad -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Natty Release Schedule is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule Feature Freeze seems to be on February 24th. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
If I submitted a patch and it got reviewed and approved prior to feature freeze then the patch would be committed correct? I see the release date for Natty is April 28, 2011, but when would the feature freeze date be? It is possible depending on how those 15 days go that I could make Feature Freeze. I also had a question about sponsorship, if I create a branch and then submit it with a correct debdiff, then someone will review it and thus sponsor me at that time, automatically? Finally a progress update for today, I have Bazaar updated and code downloaded to include OTR. I have also taken all of the advice of the telepathy developers and bookmarked several pages, I have also got accounts for GNOME's and FreeDesktop's Bugzillas. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Please do not expect a patch for this by Natty, I will not be able to dedicate serious time to this until my schedule clears up. I have it slated for serious work, not just tinkering and learning starting on the 18th of January 2011. During that time I have given myself nearly 15 days to work solely on the patch. I have been speaking with the telepathy developers to get a better understanding of the best way to patch the bug. I am also looking over the Telepathy / OTR code, but it will take me a little to familiarize myself and to decide with the Telepathy developers the best approach. Hopefully in a few weeks I will have a plan to present to them. I am knew to the Open Source game, but I am eager to contribute. ** Changed in: libtelepathy (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Jordan Farrell (wolfrage) ** Changed in: libtelepathy (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I think this qualifies for a papercut therefore I added it. Please some one confirm this. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 Title: empathy needs to support OTR encryption -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
We need to have this by Natty. That would be awesome. > We still do not have this? > I want to program it. Please one of the developers contact me. I will work this and I will code it, I will also make sure that all of my code meets your exact specifications. I am serious. > I am getting my degree in software engineering, and I already have a good grasp of Python. > > -- > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Confirmed > Status in Telepathy framework - library: Confirmed > Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged > Status in “libtelepathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in “empathy” package in Fedora: Won't Fix > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: empathy > > Hello, > I just tried empathy (the Intrepid version) and it looked very solid and stable. There were a few minor things that could be improved (e.g. automatically resizing the contact list), but that is not the topic here. > The reason why I won't switch to empathy from pidgin is the missing OTR support (http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ ). This is a really important feature because no one should read your messages. > There were others with the same idea (links at the bottom). > Would be so great if it could support that important encryption standard. > Thanks for helping out! > > Links: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/253452/comments/2 > http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/pipermail/otr-users/2008-September/001479.html > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/296867/+subscribe -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
We still do not have this? I want to program it. Please one of the developers contact me. I will work this and I will code it, I will also make sure that all of my code meets your exact specifications. I am serious. I am getting my degree in software engineering, and I already have a good grasp of Python. -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
Yes ... this is important imho On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Allen Lowe wrote: > I can confirm that there ought to be some sort of standardized > encryption available in empathy. It appears that the upstream developers > have considered this. I suppose it's just a matter of waiting at this > point > > -- > empathy needs to support OTR encryption > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
I can confirm that there ought to be some sort of standardized encryption available in empathy. It appears that the upstream developers have considered this. I suppose it's just a matter of waiting at this point -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
this bug is misclassified as "wishlist": upon introduction empathy was supposed to replace pidgin, it is unable to do so because crucial functionality is missing - thus it is REGRESSION and should be treated as such. -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 296867] Re: empathy needs to support OTR encryption
** Changed in: empathy Importance: Unknown => Wishlist -- empathy needs to support OTR encryption https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296867 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to empathy in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
