[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) => (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to nautilus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Emptying the trash can lead to have files still on disk in expunged To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
THe bug is stll here in 2019, on 18.04.1! I had loads of files in .local/share/Trash/expunged. Removing them, they vanished, (rapidly), but the disc space occupied has not been released. 256GB on this machine, and it has run out of space. Backups of home/user are taking up 192GB. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
What happens is that when a directory hierarchy is deleted in nautilus (or any other application that uses the method explained by Martin in comment 16), it gets moved to the $trash/files directory, and then when the trash gets emptied, that hierarchy is moved to the $trash/expunged directory, after which it should be deleted. Unfortunately, deleting all those files is not always possible when somewhere down the tree there are files or directories with permissions that don't allow them to be deleted by the desktop user, and then those files remain there forever, without any warning for the user... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
As far as I understand (unfortunately, I can't find any documentation on this) files that are deleted from the trash are first moved to expunged (because moving files is fast), and then are slowly deleted from expunged (slowly because deleting a lot of files takes time and doing it too fast could slow down the whole computer). This means that having files in expunged is not necessarily a problem, as long as these files get deleted over time. If there are files in expunged that do not vanish over time, the output from the following command could probably help the maintainers in figuring this bug out: LANG=C ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I confirm the issue with 11.10, GNOME/Nautilus 3.2.1. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I confirm this behavior with Thunar too. ** Also affects: thunar (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: thunar (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
This happened to me not on my main drive but on a USB thumb drive I use for backup, formatted with FAT32. The backup program kept telling me the drive was full, so I suspected if the files were not actually deleted, so I searched for a bit and found 5GB of files in /media/DriveLabel/.Trash-1000/expunged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/422012/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
8 months since bug was confirmed. Any news on it? By the way, where ccan i find the rationale / specification on this expunged folder? Is it for big files, other-users files, both, none, something else? Last but not least: shouldnt these files be deleted on reboot? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 Title: Protected files hidden by Trash -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I've just found in .local/share/Trash/expunged/ the contents of builds of some programs I had to compile to install. -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I have experienced the same issues in Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10. I though that maybe the directory Expunged was a folder that stored big files, since I saw that in one of the user's Expunged folder included video files. So, what can we do here? 1) Inform the user that their files might be moved to ~/Trash/expunged? 2) Change the trash behavior, so that if it is a big file it will get deleted without moving it to another directory? 3) Move all files to the normal Trash directory? But, first we need to know what kind of files and in what condition does the files get moved to Expunged -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
Related discussion at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490072 -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
It's still here with 10.04 -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
How to reproduce: ji...@jimmy:~/tmp$ mkdir test ji...@jimmy:~/tmp$ mkdir test/root ji...@jimmy:~/tmp$ touch test/root/file ji...@jimmy:~/tmp$ sudo chown root:root test/root/ test/root/file Then delete ~/tmp/test in nautilus and empty the Trash. Now the Trash can seems to be empty, but the folder has been silently moved to: ji...@jimmy:~/.local/share/Trash/expunged$ ls 3010044318 ji...@jimmy:~/.local/share/Trash/expunged$ ls -al 3010044318/root/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-05-20 21:42 . drwx-- 3 jimmy jimmy 4096 2010-05-20 21:42 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2010-05-20 21:42 file It's all here. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
My version information: Linux jimmy 2.6.34-2-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 13 23:46:20 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu maverick (development branch) Release:10.10 Codename: maverick nautilus: Installed: 1:2.30.1-0ubuntu1 -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
could you try if that's still an issue in karmic or lucid? -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
Today I emptied the Trash but the files were deleted too fast and no disk activity was noticed, so I started investigating and I found all the Trash contents inside the folder ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged. There was no problem with the permissions of the files as I have been able to remove the whole expunged folder with a rm .local/share/Trash/expunged/ -Rv without a single warning executed as the same user logged in the desktop. For now I have not been able to reproduce the problem. -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
I can confirm that I get the same behaviour. The files on the expunged folder have some problems with permissions. I had to open the folder as administrator to delete it. -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
Hi, I've not been able to reproduce this issue. It may have been a problem at some previous stage or to do with some unusual permissions on the files in question. I will report back if I find it having happened again. -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 422012] Re: Protected files hidden by Trash
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Please answer these questions: * Is this reproducible? * If so, what specific steps should we take to recreate this bug? This will help us to find and resolve the problem. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Protected files hidden by Trash https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422012 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
