[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
8.04 has arrived and I don't see SILC support in pidgin-2.4.1-1ubuntu2 What more do we need to do/who do we need to talk to to get silc-toolkit included in main? -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Please see the MainInclusionReport here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportSilc-toolkit Although it hasn't been accepted for about a year and a half. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
I see. I had not realized the obvious that every package in main must depend only on other packages in main. I read the the Main Inclusion Process (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess) and submitted a Main Inclusion Report for silc-toolkit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/silc-toolkit/+bug/211179 -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
*sigh* This is still broken in Hardy beta. Come on, this is a 1 minute fix, why should this bug report be 2 years old and still not fixed? Anyway, nothing left to say except what has already been said: The only thing required to fix this bug is to add the libsilc dev package to the build-deps and libsilc to the package dependencies. That's all that's been needed for at least the last couple of releases (edgy, feisty, gutsy, *hardy*). It's such a simple solution and would make the lives of all of us using silc so much easier that I would really like to see it happen before the next release. I'd also like to note that the pidgin and finch packages (in gutsy) both claim to have silc support when, in fact, they do not. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
That's not all that is needed. The big hang-up here is and always has been getting libsilc into Ubuntu main. I'm not sure what's holding that up, though. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
here's a fixed link: http://ubuntumagnet.com/2007/10/enabling-silc-support-pidgin-under- ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
I applied the technique on the above-mentioned page to compile with SILC support, however, it has the permissions problem described here http://carnal0wnage.blogspot.com/2007/08/getting-silc-plugin-to-work- with-pidgin.html Cannot create SILC key pair -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
argh,why do I need to make a new bulky post every time I forget to mention sometime? these are the successful messages from `sudo pidgin` Public key has been saved into `/root/.silc/public_key.pub'. Private key has been saved into `/root/.silc/private_key.prv'. I'm on Gutsy x86 edition -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
running pigdin from command-line, I get Could not create public key identifier: Success Could not create public key identifier: Success . sudo pidgin works to create keys... this seems to be a silc-toolkit problem? -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
I want to agree that splitting is a bad idea compared to just building in SILC support as is done in Debian now. I also want to note that the only thing required to fix this bug is to add the libsilc dev package to the build-deps and libsilc to the package dependencies. That's all that's been needed for at least the last couple of releases (edgy, feisty, gutsy). It's such a simple solution and would make the lives of all of us using silc so much easier that I would really like to see it happen before the next release. I'd also like to note that the pidgin and finch packages (in gutsy) both claim to have silc support when, in fact, they do not. Also, if anyone comes across this thread wanting to enable silc support in pidgin or finch in gutsy here's how to do it: http://ubuntumagnet.com/2007/10/enabling-silc-support-pidgin-under- ubuntu-7-10-gutsy-gibbon -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Copying files out of the Pidgin tarball is not cleaner. It requires that
on every upgrade, someone copy a tree of files. Additionally, as you can
see, internal stuff uses internal.h, which doesn't belong in libpurple-
dev.
If I was to want to split this (which I think is a terrible idea
compared to just building pidgin with SILC support in main), I would
take the pristine upstream tarball and use that as the base of a pidgin-
silc source package. You should configure with --disable-gtk --disable-
consoleui. This should build just libpurple. (I haven't tested it, but
if it doesn't, we can fix that upstream.) Then, instead of calling make
install from your package's install target, you'd install just the
single .so of the SILC prpl from debian/rules. Also, you'll want the
pidgin-silc binary package to depend on libpurple = ${source:Version}.
This is more specific than you probably need (as you really only care
about the major and minor, not the micro), but it's easier than rigging
up some sort of script to create a substvar that's not really needed in
practice.
This way, you'd get the results you want without needing to complicate
future package maintenance. You'd just need to grab a new Pidgin tarball
and rebuild the package.
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[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
splitting in a cleaner way; copy libpurple/protocols/silc/* and compile against pidgin-dev. I need also internal.h missed in libpurple-dev /pidgin-dev cheers ** Attachment added: p-silc-2.2.1-src-debian.tar.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10065626/p-silc-2.2.1-src-debian.tar.gz -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
I have no time to spend joining any working group, so I attach some changes that when applied to pidgin, should give pidgin-silc universe source package. Cheers, ** Attachment added: pidgin_to_pidgin-silc_2.2.1.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9710404/pidgin_to_pidgin-silc_2.2.1.diff -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
and add DEB_DESTDIR = $(DEB_SRCDIR)/debian/tmp to debian/rules. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
and what about splitting silc protocol plugin to a new universe- component package? -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
You are welcome to join the MOTU team and work on that -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
silc would need to be promoted to main to build pidgin with it -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
reassigning to pidgin. It looks as if the dependent bugs are fixed in debian at least can silc be turned on in the compile yet? I guess this would mean turning it on in the build dependencies? ** Changed in: pidgin (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: gaim = pidgin -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Changed in: gaim (Debian) Status: New = Fix Released -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Caspar, feel free to reassign bugs from gaim to pidgin when it makes sense if you want, the gaim bugs are still open though so there is no hurry -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Should this one be assigned to the pidging package now? -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/44728 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Changed in: gaim (Debian) Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #260420 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=260420 ** Also affects: gaim (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=260420 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Why is this marked as fix committed? As I understand it there is still no fix. I have added the package to the queue in the hope that it will encourage somebody that knows what they are doing to fill the holes. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
fix commited make easier to spot changes to do for the next upload usually, that one will not be changed now though, marking as confirmed instead then ** Changed in: gaim (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Confirmed -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Changed in: silc-toolkit (Debian) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportSilc-toolkit still has some missing pieces and is not linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Daniel is correct. I don't feel comfortable filling in any more of the gaps and didn't want to link it to the Queue because it wasn't complete. Sorry if I have confused people :). -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
not fixed yet or the bug would have been updated -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Somebody needs to write a main inclusion report for silc-toolkit (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionQueue) and test gaim built with silc -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Thanks for your advice, Daniel. I have created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportSilc-toolkit with as much as I can do alone. I haven't done a main inclusion report before, so it still needs work from someone who knows what they are doing. Hopefully all the links etc. that I have put in there will save that person a fair amount of time. I haven't added it to the queue. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Thanks for your work on that. Now it'd be good to have gaim built with silc and see how stable it is and how much sense it makes to ship it to our users. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
We're heading into Edgy but I can't see any packages in the Edgy repos that will fix this. Is this still planned to be in Edgy? Silc support is really important to me. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #328889 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328889 ** Also affects: silc-toolkit (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328889 Severity: Unknown Priority: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Will be fixed after dapper ** Changed in: gaim (Ubuntu) Severity: Normal = Wishlist Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: [Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
there is no --enable-silc flag to configure. heh, then my memory is failing me :) -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
** Changed in: gaim (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: [Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
In Ubuntu the packages are filled: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -L libsilc-1.0-2 libsilc-1.0-2-dev | wc -l 1142 They are a mess though, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=273871 which is supposedly fixed in Debian but not yet in Ubuntu. Enabling the gaim silc plugin will require: 1) A sync of libsilc from debian 2) A main inclusin report for libsilc 3) A patch to the gaim package This will *not* happen for Dapper due to the various freezes that are currently in effect. I've testbuilt gaim with --enable-silc once for breezy (with the messy libsilc package) and it seemed to work fine, so this will be a nice thing to have in edgy. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
there is no --enable-silc flag to configure. Unless you are specifying which protocols to build with either --with-static-prpls or --with- dynamic-prpls (both of which take a list of protocols to build, ie --with-dynamic-prpls=oscar,irc) then SILC support will be built if the silc libraries are discovered by configure at build time. As they are often at non-standard locations (ie /usr/local/silc), there are --with- silc-includes=DIR and --with-silc-libs=DIR configure flags, but I would highly doubt these would be necessary for a debian package of libsilc. Still, I imagine that #s 1 and 2 would block even though #3 should be a non-issue. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
For the record: At this point, I think the best thing to do is to make sure that the libsilc package is fixed upstream to actually include contents while still fixing the soname issue. If that's done, it'll surely be synced to Ubuntu, and then you can presumably request Gaim to be built with libsilc support (which might require libsilc getting into main if it's not already). -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
The libsilc package in Debian has serious problems. That's likely why this hasn't been done yet. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Richard: problems like what? Is there a bug report? I'm using upstream silc libraries and they work fine. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Right, the upstream tarballs are fine. It is the debian package that has issues. For example, being empty. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
Luke, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Ubuntu has a libsilc package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=silcsearchon=namessubword=1version=dapperrelease=all -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 44728] Re: Gaim doesn't include SILC support
there have been two silc toolkit packages for debian. I do not know which has made it into ubuntu. However, in current debian (again, I'm unsure of ubuntu), the only silc package is libsilc-1.0-2 for which I see the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/doc/gaim/gaim.my$ dpkg -L libsilc-1.0-2 /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/libsilc-1.0-2 /usr/share/doc/libsilc-1.0-2/copyright /usr/share/doc/libsilc-1.0-2/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/libsilc-1.0-2/changelog.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/doc/gaim/gaim.my$ It thus contains nothing except a changelog and a copyright. To this the -dev package adds several READMEs, a TODO, and a credits file. -- Gaim doesn't include SILC support https://launchpad.net/bugs/44728 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
