[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-12-18 Thread komputes
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 395299 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395299

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 395299
   gdm 2.26 has no graphical configuration tool

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-12-03 Thread Matthew Caron
I also note that I grabbed Debian 5.0 and they're still using the old
one. I'm considering a move to that platform.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-12-02 Thread Bremm
If someone wants to tweak gdm look and feel, it could be done running
the line below as root:

# sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties

Xubuntu 9.10 GDM theme is fine for me (if Ubuntu users are annoyed by
the Human Theme, they could give a try on Kubuntu or even Xubuntu).
IMHO, Human Theme hurts my eyes, I stick with blueish tones in
[K|X]ubuntu.

There is another way, but it might mess up GDM: downgrade it to the
older version (I didn't try and I wouldn't try, even knowing how to
'pin' packages to avoid updates). It's a kind of surgical procedure and
I don't recommend it to someone who relies on front-ends to configure
such trivial stuff (sorry if I has been a show-off, but it's true).

Like anything on Linux, you always can seek another path. I would try it
in /etc/gdm/custom.conf where it's possible to change themes (at
[greeter] section) easily. All custom settings done in this file won't
be superseded by any upgrade, so your beloved theme won't be touched if
it's compatible with your GDM version.

HTH

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-12-02 Thread Bremm
Update: I just tried the command below as root

# gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconf-editor

Settings are under desktop/gnome branch.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-12-02 Thread Matthew Caron
Bremm: I think you miss the point. It seems incongruous to me that a
distribution which purports to be so user focused (even going to far as
wanting to remove boot messages and hide them behind a splash screen,
and even not displaying the grub boot info) would take such a large step
backwards.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter to me, as I'm perfectly capable of hacking
on config files. However, folks seem to want more broad Linux adoption,
rather than just leaving it to folks like me.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-11-01 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 I'd like to know if the login screen will return as a feature in
either an update or the next stable build (10.4).

not sure what you call a feature there, there is a login screen
configurator in karmic, specific options will be added back according to
the user requests and the ressources available to work on those changes

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-31 Thread Basilisk
And you broke apart a lot of what is needed  by a fair share of people
who use Linux... To some of us, its not so much as Oh, I'm using Linux
to SSH this and SSH, or I'm emo/raging at Windows, so I'm going to bed
Linux tonight instead... Its more about I use Linux  because its
moddable, its customizable, and because its worlds apart from the rigid
theming options provided by Windows...

I may not be in the right place to state, but I believe that Ubuntu is
probably the easiest Linux Distro to adapt to, particularly if you are a
new user... And matter-of-factly, the majority of the potential Luxor's
that I am aware of are interesting in the visual appeal... The loss of a
customizable login screen obviously has a major impact on such an
audience.

Therefore, in lieu, I'd like to know if the login screen will return as
a feature in either an update or the next stable build (10.4).

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-30 Thread Jeremy Boden
This is seriously bad!
Even Windows 3.1 looked more attractive at first sight.
First impressions stick.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The comment is still not really constructive. The gdm code has been
rewritten and the new codebase doesn't have all the options which the
old one had so it's not only a matter of having a configuration gui but
also to bring those options there. Upstream doesn't have any
configuration tool in the new version so one has been added in ubuntu
for the most used option. The possibility to configure themes could be
added back too next cycle but the ubuntu team doesn't have the manpower
to work on adding back all the options which were in the previous
codebase especially the ones not judged useful for most users, that's
why specific issues need to be described so the team can decide on what
to work next there

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-19 Thread Matthew Caron
Ah lovely. So, once again, upstream rewrites something, breaks/reduces
functiontionality, Ubuntu adopts it, and stuff that literally worked for
YEARS suddenly no longer does. Not a unique situation, so I suppose I
should get used to it.

Anyway, I was not aware that GDM had been rewritten in this fashion. I
thought that this simplified dialog had been created to make it easier
for people by taking away options, and wanted to make it clear that this
was not appreciated by those of us who used the options which were
removed. Since this was not the case, I suppose there's not much which
can be done about it.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 upstream rewrites something...

it's worth noting that ubuntu stayed on the previous version for over a
year to get the new version catching up while GNOME and other
distributions were shipping the new one but it has been decided that it
would be better to switch to a version being worked and using recent
desktop technlogies before the lts coming next cycle

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-19 Thread Matthew Caron
True, and having reviewed various discussions related to that it makes
sense from a certain point of view.

I'm just not looking forward to the uproar this is going to elicit from
my users.

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-18 Thread Matthew Caron
** Summary changed:

- karmic gdmsetup is completely useless
+ karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

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[Bug 454420] Re: karmic gdmsetup removes useful options which existed in jaunty

2009-10-18 Thread Matthew Caron
Renamed.

I don't really know how to express it any better. There was literally a
whole host of features in the one in Jaunty which actually allowed you
to actually configure the greeter. There were 6 tabs of options,
including theme selection, default session setting, remote login stuff,
X server setup, face browser options, etc. So, it's not just theming,
it's EVERYTHING.

The new one removes all that and basically only has one radio button:
ask for the user or log one in already.

This means that in order to do something as simple as choose what you
want the login screen to look like requires editing the config file.

Personally, I want the old configuration screen back. Failing that, an
advanced tab/button/etc which brings up the old dialog will be fine as
well.

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