[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-04-19 Thread John Lea
** Tags added: reviewedbydesign
** Tags removed: udt

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-28 Thread Robert Chalmas
I added a comment (#10) about the problems this change may bring in a
school environment in bug #735343, unless this addition may be easily
removed by the sysadmin.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-22 Thread BavarianPH
Frankly, I have no idea how unity works, or how it should work,

especially where the settings are to adjust or enhance unity.

Perhaps unity was introduced before its time or maybe I am

just getting too old to keep up with the Linux masters? -

[By the way, Is Mark Shuttleworth left handed?]  -

Unity has great possibilities, if windows decoration  functionality

remains a user's choice.

So far, windows loose their headers far too easily when unity fails.

- Naked windows are like chickens without feathers. -

Unity must become 'un-crash-able'.

A right click menu like gnome-panel, with many options, would help.

Still, I prefer a panel on the bottom of the desktop,

it is more comfortable,  easier for me to work with.

So, I simply auto-start gnome-panel, which appears on the bottom,

 gives me many choices, including The familiar Main Menu.

Yes, this main menu needs some tweaking, however, I discovered,

that under natty there is no delay in using the menu, 

scrolling works as well, under maverick these functions

where a problem, natty somehow fixed it.

Sure, if unity had right-click functions,  a Menu

that is easily configured  customized, would make unity

far better than gnome-desktop  gnome-panel.

Just an open source thought.

BavarianPH,

Ubuntu Forever!

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-16 Thread Benjamin Drung
I opened bug #736375 requesting the reverting of this change.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-15 Thread Paul Sladen
** Description changed:

  1)  Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity
  
  2)  Add a System Settings option to the end of the session indicator
  menu.  e.g.
  
  ...
  Shutdown
  -
  'System Settings'
  
  Clicking on the System Settings link will open the Gnome Control
  Center.
+ 
+ A separate bug about fixing the exact menu item name is bug #733234
+ (Link to gnome-control-center is session menu should be titled System
+ Settings).

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Matthew East
On 7 March 2011 16:03, John Lea 727...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 Hi Pitti, I've chatted to MPT, this option does need to go in the
 Session Menu so you are now unblocked.

Could someone explain on the bug report what the response to mpt's
comment was. It seems valid to me - I can't see why this option isn't
in the main menu where users will actually find it rather than in the
session menu which has nothing to do with system settings.

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 14/03/11 08:28, Matthew East wrote:
 Could someone explain on the bug report what the response to mpt's
 comment was. It seems valid to me - I can't see why this option isn't
 in the main menu where users will actually find it rather than in the
 session menu which has nothing to do with system settings.

What do you mean by the main menu?

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Matthew East
On 14 March 2011 08:37, Mark Shuttleworth 727...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 On 14/03/11 08:28, Matthew East wrote:
 Could someone explain on the bug report what the response to mpt's
 comment was. It seems valid to me - I can't see why this option isn't
 in the main menu where users will actually find it rather than in the
 session menu which has nothing to do with system settings.

 What do you mean by the main menu?

I mean the menu that appears down the left hand side of the screen
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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Ah. The problem with that is that the contents are unpredictable. We
could put it there, we could also put it in the Shortcuts that appear
when you click on the Ubuntu button (and which are for Natty at least
always accessible that way).

The advantage of putting it in the last indicator menu is that it can be
consistent across all the desktop interfaces. Also, the roadmap for the
indicators introduces a device menu, in the top right corner, which
would have the settings in it, so we're triangulating to that
destination here.

We can however do some tests on discoverability and tweak this before
release if there's a problem.

Mark

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Matthew East
On 14 March 2011 10:01, Mark Shuttleworth 727...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 Ah. The problem with that is that the contents are unpredictable.

I don't understand what that means. If there is an issue with that
menu, then it would apply to any item put in it, and there has been no
issue adding Applications and Files  Folders to it, so why not
Settings as another entry?

 The advantage of putting it in the last indicator menu is that it can be
 consistent across all the desktop interfaces.

Again, that argument doesn't apply to any other item in the left hand
menu?

 Also, the roadmap for the
 indicators introduces a device menu, in the top right corner, which
 would have the settings in it, so we're triangulating to that
 destination here.

Ok, it's just that from some of the above comments, it didn't sound
like there was a roadmap for this which was known among at least some
of the developers. It sounded more like this was introduced as a
stop-gap, pending further discussion at some future UDS with a
retrospective update made to the relevant specification to justify the
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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 14/03/11 10:26, Matthew East wrote:
 On 14 March 2011 10:01, Mark Shuttleworth 727...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 Ah. The problem with that is that the contents are unpredictable.
 I don't understand what that means. If there is an issue with that
 menu, then it would apply to any item put in it, and there has been no
 issue adding Applications and Files  Folders to it, so why not
 Settings as another entry?

Users can remove items from the launcher, whereas they can't remove them
from the indicator menus. The launcher is user space and we seed it
with some useful stuff. The indicators are (mostly) system space.


 The advantage of putting it in the last indicator menu is that it can be
 consistent across all the desktop interfaces.
 Again, that argument doesn't apply to any other item in the left hand
 menu?

All of the things that are going in the launcher are optional. The
system still works without any of 'em.

Mark

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-14 Thread Matthew East
On 14 March 2011 11:49, Mark Shuttleworth m...@canonical.com wrote:
 On 14/03/11 10:26, Matthew East wrote:
 On 14 March 2011 10:01, Mark Shuttleworth 727...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 Ah. The problem with that is that the contents are unpredictable.
 I don't understand what that means. If there is an issue with that
 menu, then it would apply to any item put in it, and there has been no
 issue adding Applications and Files  Folders to it, so why not
 Settings as another entry?

 Users can remove items from the launcher, whereas they can't remove them
 from the indicator menus. The launcher is user space and we seed it
 with some useful stuff. The indicators are (mostly) system space.

I don't think that is a clear distinction at all. Music, mail, chat,
social networking etc are all present in the indicators and these seem
to me to be user space. But putting that aside, it seems to me that
the launcher is intended to be the place where users *start* things
and I still don't see any meaningful reason not to include settings
alongside applications there.

 The advantage of putting it in the last indicator menu is that it can be
 consistent across all the desktop interfaces.
 Again, that argument doesn't apply to any other item in the left hand
 menu?

 All of the things that are going in the launcher are optional. The
 system still works without any of 'em.

That's also true of the settings (which are currently present in the
applications launcher already).

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Re: [Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Gerson, interesting idea to add those link areas to the dash sections,
but I think we need to find more general use cases for those if we're
going to use them here. And that would be an Oneiric issue.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-13 Thread Gerson fserve Barreiros
Thanks Mark,

I've thinking on buttons that way for tablet users of Unity, so they can
change simple details on their systems pretty fast.

Sorry for my english, thanks again. :)

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-12 Thread Gerson fserve Barreiros
I think that 3 buttons on the dash screen could do that job better.

see my attach.

** Attachment added: Only 3 buttons to make Unity better!
   
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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-11 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center -
1:2.32.1-0ubuntu7

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gnome-control-center (1:2.32.1-0ubuntu7) natty; urgency=low

  * Add debian/gnome-control-center.links: Add gnomecc.desktop to
indicator-session extra menu list. (LP: #727823)
 -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:22:41 +0100

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread John Lea
thanks Pitti !

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Ted Gould
** Changed in: indicator-session
Milestone: None = 0.2.15

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-
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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Ted Gould
** Changed in: indicator-session
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package indicator-session - 0.2.15-0ubuntu1

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indicator-session (0.2.15-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low

  * New upstream release.
∘ Support adding arbitrary items to the end of the session
  menu. (LP: #727823)
∘ Call guest session with --no-lock to ensure there is no
  double locking (LP: #636693)
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** Changed in: indicator-session (Ubuntu Natty)
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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/indicator-session

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: unity-foundations
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Martin Pitt
I confirm that copying /usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop to
/usr/share/applications/indicator-session-extra.desktop already does the
right thing, i. e. adds the control center launcher to the end of the
session menu with a separator. It is also properly translated (using the
usual X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain).

So I'll change the special support for this file into a more general
directory, like /usr/share/indicators/session/applications/*.desktop (to
stay reasonably consistent with
/usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/). Then gnome-control-center
only needs to be changed to install a symlink to the existing
gnomecc.desktop into that directory. For that part I'm reopening the
g-c-c task.

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Fix Released = In Progress

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-10 Thread Martin Pitt
MP submitted. I tested this with

  sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/indicators/session/applications
  sudo ln -s /usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop 
/usr/share/indicators/session/applications/gnomecc.desktop

and also combinations of that link with /usr/share/applications
/indicator-session-extra.desktop, and several desktop files, and no
desktop files at all.

** Changed in: indicator-session
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-09 Thread John Lea
Brief updated added to the spec, will be explored more in the indicator
project post UDS

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
** Also affects: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: unity
   Status: In Progress = Invalid

** Changed in: unity-place-applications
   Status: In Progress = Invalid

** Package changed: unity-place-applications (Ubuntu Natty) = gnome-
menus (Ubuntu Natty)

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti)

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread John Lea
Pitti: yes. in the session menu, not the me menu

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-menus/ubuntu

** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: gnome-menus (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-11.04-beta-1

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Ted Gould
I don't understand how the design task can be Fix Released when the
spec hasn't been updated:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionMenu

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
System settings has nothing whatsoever to do with the session menu. I
think John must have meant something else.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
The session indicator doesn't currently support adding extra desktop
files, this needs to get patched in.

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: Martin Pitt (pitti) = (unassigned)

** Project changed: unity-place-applications = indicator-session

** Changed in: indicator-session
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti)

** Changed in: indicator-session
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti)

** Also affects: indicator-session (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-session (Ubuntu Natty)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Changed in: indicator-session (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-session (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Martin Pitt (pitti)

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
@mpt: The description makes it quite clear that it's not a terminology
problem -- John indeed did mean the session menu. I guess I let you
design guys fight it out, and then implement whatever the decision is
where to put it? :-)

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-control-center -
1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6

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gnome-control-center (1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6) natty; urgency=low

  * Add 53_ubuntu_show_shell.patch: Show gnomecc.desktop, so that we can find
it in Unity. For classic GNOME we will disable it in
/etc/xdg/menus/settings.menu instead. (LP: #727823)
 -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:50:00 +0100

** Changed in: gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: gnome-menus (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-menus - 2.30.5-0ubuntu3

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  * Add 24_ubuntu_hide_control_center.patch: Hide the Control Center shell
from the Settings menu. We only want to expose it in Unity and the session
indicator. (LP: #727823)
 -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:50:14 +0100

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread John Lea
Hi Pitti, I've chatted to MPT, this option does need to go in the
Session Menu so you are now unblocked.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: indicator-session (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-session
   Status: Confirmed = In Progress

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Timothy Kross
If this were to go in the Session Menu, the Session Menu Rationale would need 
to be updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionMenu 
It currently states: The session menu is for when you want to stop using the 
computer, either temporarily or indefinitely.

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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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[Bug 727823] Re: Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add System Settings link to the session indicator menu

2011-03-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gnome-control-center

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