Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I've seen the Liberation font, it's very nice and probably a lot better than either one of the fonts discussed here, judging from the samples. I'm not on my Ubuntu box right now, do you have a screenshot showing how it looks as rendered with the system's default anti-aliasing settings? Michiel On 30 March 2010 02:41, Harald Sitter apachelog...@ubuntu.com wrote: As per the decision made today at the Kubuntu meeting. Kubuntu is switching to Liberation for 10.04. ** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
The Liberation fonts exist only for width compatibility with documents that were using Helvetica and Times New Roman. They are too ugly to use for anything else, and we won't be using them in Ubuntu's interface. As described in http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308, Dalton Maag is working on a new interface font for Ubuntu, currently scheduled for 10.10. ** Changed in: libgnome (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
So basically, Liberation is meant to be the default serif, sans-serif and monospace in documents such as web pages? Just saw some screenshots of Liberation being used as the system font, and while I don't think it's ugly, I can understand what you mean. Nice to hear that Dalton Maag have been commissioned to make a new font. Michiel On 30 March 2010 11:42, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: The Liberation fonts exist only for width compatibility with documents that were using Helvetica and Times New Roman. They are too ugly to use for anything else, and we won't be using them in Ubuntu's interface. As described in http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308, Dalton Maag is working on a new interface font for Ubuntu, currently scheduled for 10.10. ** Changed in: libgnome (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
As per the decision made today at the Kubuntu meeting. Kubuntu is switching to Liberation for 10.04. ** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = New -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I think it's a difficult issue. DejaVu Sans is a very good font, as is DejaVu Sans Condensed. The former has the advantage of being more extended, which aids readability, and the latter might be slightly more elegant and allows for more information to be shown on the screen. In any case, a consensus is necessary for such a massive change to occur. Changing the default font is not something that's decided very easily. It will affect every single user in a significant way. A font can make or break the communication with the user, after all. So maybe the right way to go about this change is to start a public debate on the issue. Michiel On 28-feb-2008, at 3:23, Richard Johnson wrote: Has there been any talks on this further at UDS or IRC at all? Is this feasible or are there no plans to implement such a task? -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Has there been any talks on this further at UDS or IRC at all? Is this feasible or are there no plans to implement such a task? -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I'm just a user, but now that we're seeing widescreen displays and pretty large resolutions, the last thing I want is a condensed font. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Here's another example where DejaVu Sans destroys a svg image: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/diagram.svg should look like this: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/diagram.png -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
hmm... maybe I'm wrong, when I watch the image with another application then firefox, it works. Sorry for the interruption then. I found an older discussion about this subject: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-March/016949.html -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I don't see how DejaVu Sans could have broken that image. I've not made many SVG graphics with non-outline text in them, but it would seem to me that you can never be certain about how it will be rendered. That SVG graphic you linked to seems to have Bitstream Vera Sans hardcoded in it as font. This is a good thing, as it means there is (should be) no uncertainty about how the font will look on other people's computers. If a system has Bitstream Vera Sans installed on it, the image should display correctly. I'm unsure how a completely different font that happens to also be the system's default font, DejaVu Sans, could cause this image to be rendered differently. Am I missing something? Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web designer and programmer On 10-apr-2007, at 16:35, jhasse wrote: Here's another example where DejaVu Sans destroys a svg image: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/diagram.svg should look like this: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/diagram.png -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Ah, I see. In that case, ignore my last message too, since it seems to be a Firefox bug. Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web designer and programmer On 10-apr-2007, at 16:43, jhasse wrote: hmm... maybe I'm wrong, when I watch the image with another application then firefox, it works. Sorry for the interruption then. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I think you're right. It must be something else because this image is broken. well, I just noticed that pons.de has a new design which is now working with DejaVu Sans. But I found another website which doesn't like right with DejaVu Sans, it's the bottom of youtube.com. Because they might change this I attached a screenshot. ** Attachment added: youtube.jpg http://librarian.launchpad.net/7242645/youtube.jpg -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Again, it seems to be the result of bad design. Try increasing the font size while looking at that footer. You'll find that it's set to a static height, and is unable to adapt to different font sizes. I think that the footBotDiv id is the culprit. http://youtube.com/ css/base_yts1175727411.css Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web designer and programmer On 10-apr-2007, at 17:18, jhasse wrote: I think you're right. It must be something else because this image is broken. well, I just noticed that pons.de has a new design which is now working with DejaVu Sans. But I found another website which doesn't like right with DejaVu Sans, it's the bottom of youtube.com. Because they might change this I attached a screenshot. ** Attachment added: youtube.jpg http://librarian.launchpad.net/7242645/youtube.jpg -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
** Changed in: libgnome (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher = (unassigned) Status: Fix Committed = Unconfirmed -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
A while ago, I replied to this bug about not liking the font at all. It seemed that a more extended font like DejaVu Sans was more readable, due to the fact that broad fonts with a large x-height are simply found to lend themselves very well for reading on a computer screen (as proved by the popularity of fonts such as Verdana and Bitstream Vera Sans on the Internet). However, most of my concern was due to the fact that DejaVu Sans Condensed didn't seem to have any hinting at all on any setting other than slight. I must say that with slight as hinting, it does look very good, and, arguably, more modern than DejaVu Sans. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I'm currently unable to check on how that website looks with Condensed, as I'm at work, but I'd expect that the breakage is due to the site designers having done a bad job rather than the font being incompatible. Making a design rely on the width of a font is always a bad idea (it also probably wasn't designed with Bitstream Vera Sans in mind, anyway). We do need a hinted DejaVu Sans Condensed at some point, but I believe that it does look good enough for production on slight hinting. Maybe I'm biased, though, because I prefer the slight hinting in most cases. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/81608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug contact for libgnome in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
In my opinion DejaVu Sans Condensed looks better, too. Also some webpages are broken due the width of DejaVu Sans. (like http://www.pons.de ) Maybe a request for a hinted DejaVu Sans Condensed should be sent to the DejaVu developpers? -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
** Changed in: kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I personally don't like DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font in OpenOffice, because it's different and does not match the rest of the Ubuntu desktop. If everything else in Ubuntu uses DejaVu Sans, then why should OpenOffice.org default to DejaVu Sans Condensed. In my opinion, this makes the menu fonts in OpenOffice look too thin, and out of place, like it doesn't blend in well enough with the rest of the Ubuntu desktop. I have unticked use system font, and added a font subsitution from DejaVu Sans Condensed to DejaVu Sans in OpenOffice in Feisty, and personally think it looks much better like that. Just my thoughts on this anyway. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
By the way, I also believe that this font's usability goes up when using the low amount of hinting. It causes the top and bottom row of pixels to be correctly hinted. If we use this font as default, I believe that we should also start using that setting as the default hinting. (Should I open up a new bug report for this?) -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
It does look different and maybe better with the Slight hinting setting (I believe that's what you meant), but what bewilders me is that, on my machine, the other hinting settings (Medium, Full) have no effect at all (I use Subpixel RGB Smoothing). -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
You know, I really don't think that this font is all that great. The hinting is really, really off. Or even non-existent. And, as I suspected, the font does not have the optimal screen font structure. Condensed fonts are more difficult to read, most of the time, and that is why I was skeptical from the beginning. I don't think that cramming more information in a less readable font is going to do much good. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
We switched Dejavu Sans back to Sans serif recently, because we shall make CJK characters can be displayed correcttly, and we have used Dejavu defaultly before feisty, there had problems for CJK users. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
** Changed in: human-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: human-gtk-theme = libgnome -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Thank you, I'll fix that with the new libgnome upload ** Changed in: libgnome (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Assignee: (unassigned) = Sebastien Bacher Status: Unconfirmed = Fix Committed -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
We may want to test DejaVu Sans Condensed with people with that don't use the Latin-Greek-Cyrillic character sets. DejaVu Sans is sometimes poor for those characters. We may need a special DejaVu LGC Sans Condensed, so that fontconfig falls back on another font. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Sebastien Bacher, did you even read what I said? If you're fixing this, you should realize that this isn't your average bug. This is a gigantic OS-wise change that will affect everybody. We first would need to open up a discussion on whether we /want/ to change this before actually doing it. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
I've been meaning to submit this but somehow I forgot. It's the first thing I change when I install Ubuntu for me or others and everybody is relieved when they see Deja Vu Sans Condensed as the default font. It takes up much less space on the screen than the grotesque Deja Vu Sans, it is very legible and, aesthetically, everybody I've asked from the local LUG finds it a much better default font. I understand Michiel's concerns over testing, but not over appearance. Ubuntu looks more like a Commodore 64 with the default font and more like a 2007 OS with Condensed. Just my 2 euro cents :) -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
The point behind this is to use a condensed font for latin characters which are shown on the desktop and interface (not in documents or inside app windows). Apparently the best idea would be to remove the messed up Cyrillic, Asian fonts which do not work anyway (making Sans default to a decent font for those languages). Best of all would be the ability to set a condensed style for UI elements only and remove the poor quality font elements from deja vu so that languages needing those default to another font. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
My concern /is/ appearance, Jimmy. Not testing. I'm active in the Ubuntu artwork team, and I believe that making such a change is /not/ something that you simply propose and accept in an afternoon. This requires more thought, and I believe that the artwork team should be involved here as well. I'm still at work, so maybe someone could make a screenshot of this font. I'd like to see how it looks. The Bitstream Vera Sans font is a good font, and I believe that the condensed version will have to look very good for it to obsolete the non-condensed version. I'm also worried about the structure of a condensed font. It's not just the amount of text that you can cram on a screen that matters, really. If you've studied type design, especially their screen appearances, you'll find that there are other very important aspects. Why use a condensed font if it's less legible than an extended font, for instance? Just saying that Ubuntu looks like a Commodore 64 is not enough for me. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
This is the proposed type scheme for Feisty. We'll use Bitstream Vera Sans for document text and DejaVu Sans Condensed for the desktop theme. There is some concern that DejaVu is not good for character sets outside the Latin-Greek-Cyrillic languages, so if that's the case, we can cut out non-LGC characters and rely on fontconfig to pick the right glyph to display. Fedora ships with DejaVu LGC, which seems to be the correct decision. ** Attachment added: deja-vu-sans-condensed.png http://librarian.launchpad.net/5886107/deja-vu-sans-condensed.png ** Description changed: - Binary package hint: human-gtk-theme - This is a wishlist bug that I discussed with Ken Wiimer. We now ship DejaVu Sans in Feisty, which contains Condensed and Condensed Bold flavours. These are great screen fonts that are quite legible and can be used for user-interface elements like window titles, menus, and tooltips. They're clean, since they are based on Bitstream Vera Sans, but also thin so that more information fits in the available space. I recommend against using them as the document fonts, since their hinting is not up to par with Bitstream Vera Sans, so they look a bit blurry. But for everything else, they're excellent. - In summary, please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default user- + There is some concern that DejaVu is not good for character sets outside + the Latin-Greek-Cyrillic languages, so if that's the case, we can cut + out non-LGC characters and rely on fontconfig to pick the right glyph to + display. Fedora ships with DejaVu LGC, which seems to be the correct + decision. + + In summary, please use DejaVu LGC Sans Condensed as the default user- interface font for Ubuntu and Kubuntu. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
Michiel, no need to panic, we can easily give it a try and switch the font back before feisty, that's jut a proposed change before freeze on an unstable distribution -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
We just switch back to Sans Serif recently in kubuntu, for using Dejavu Sans, CJK chareacters can not be displayed correctly, I don't think we need test again. And in gnome desktop environment, we can display our characters ootb, for it use Sans Serif, because we have remapped CJK fonts to Sans Serif and Sans. 2007/1/26, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michiel, no need to panic, we can easily give it a try and switch the font back before feisty, that's jut a proposed change before freeze on an unstable distribution -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 81608] Re: Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font
ZhengPing, Thanks for your input. It means that we should definitely use the LGC version to prevent this problem. It's not shipped with Ubuntu right now, but this should not be a big issue. -- Please use DejaVu Sans Condensed as the default font https://launchpad.net/bugs/81608 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
