[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
agofry: 1. Run 'gconf-editor' 2. Navigate to apps/nautilus/preferences 3. Ensure confirm_trash is ticked. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 Title: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: High = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 Title: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
After several years asking/waiting for the implementation of an option like ¨Prompt before send Files or Folder to trash¨ I´m almost near to left gnome, it´s my favorite but many people needs this a simple option easy to implement. If developers does n´t want to do ... well .. we just resign or ... If someone knows how or who can do this behavior (please let me know) I´m disposed to pay for that, please, someone who ask to nautilus developers how much cost implement this option and I will pay for that. If it is very expensive, I hope other users help me to pay. Other option is to help to programming it, with a correct guide I´l be able to do it. Maybe they can say again ¨this is how nautilus works, will not be changed¨ ... if so... then sadly I´l be pushed to move to other desktop/distro (Maybe W***) :( Thanks -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 Title: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I don't know why it is not implemented. Come on, it's no big deal : it's 20 lines of code, something like this ! look at the proposed patch. It's just an preference. It will harm noone, you can disable it or enable it all file manager do it... -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
** Changed in: nautilus Importance: Unknown = Wishlist -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Good news, the trashed on column will be in maverick: bug 301552. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Holger Berndt wrote: the question Which file did I just delete is pretty simple to answer, no matter how many million files you have in your trashcan: It's the topmost. How is it the topmost? The Wastebasket has no way to sort by deleted date. If it did, then this improvement would be a lot less urgent, IMHO. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
The Wastebasket has no way to sort by deleted date. If it did, then this improvement would be a lot less urgent, IMHO Please read what I wrote. Quoting myself: In fact, current Nautilus git master has trashed-on column in list view, and (irrespective of the view) sorts the trashcan by reversed deletion date by default. So, as it landed in git master, it will be in one of the next releases. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I don't understand the ongoing holy war at all. Why can't the confirmation dialog be optional. Those who want it, will turn it on, and those who don't want it will turn it off. Problem solved and everyone's happy. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
To some people who think Delete is just a Move to Trash bin: Suppose that you have 1500+ items in your trash bin. You pressed DEL without noticing which file it was. Objectively speaking, do you still think it is a reasonable behavior? You'll understand how irritating this is if you commit and feel the pain. (As I did just now on a Lucid 32bit Desktop.) If one wants to Move to the Trash bin, he will simply drag and drop it to the waste bin. I'm not saying they are short-sighted, but it would be really nice to consider other people's view and think what could be the possible outcomes if not fixed. And who simply says because it is Not Windows does not seem to be logical answer to me - just emotional. As you could see from the above example, confirmation dialogue should be quite practical for many people, especially for people who want to move to the Linux world from Windows. If it makes Ubuntu better, why not accept and fix it? People who don't like this functionality could simply turn it off. No loser, isn't it? -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Suppose that you have 1500+ items in your trash bin. You pressed DEL without noticing which file it was. A warning for every single move-to-trash operation to fix this problematic usecase is implementing a cruel workaround instead of fixing the issues (in this case trash view usability). In fact, current Nautilus git master has trashed-on column in list view, and (irrespective of the view) sorts the trashcan by reversed deletion date by default. So, the question Which file did I just delete is pretty simple to answer, no matter how many million files you have in your trashcan: It's the topmost. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@#92: That's what I said in #60 with my last sentence too: change the combo to something like CTRL+m to prevent a shortcut that can be hit by accident with a single key and to show it's not a deleting but a moving operation. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
When an interface makes something too easy to do, it often causes arguments like this one. One group of people gets frustrated that they keep doing the thing by mistake. And another group of people -- for whom too easy seems like an oxymoron -- can't believe that the first group are making the mistake, so they resort to unhelpful insults. (I know this because I was once in the second group, arguing against people who complained that Mozilla's Ctrl+Enter keyboard combo made it too easy to send an e-mail message by mistake.) Adding a confirmation alert is one way to make something more difficult to do, but it is the most crass way. A much simpler solution would be to change the keyboard combo for sending something to the trash, so that it requires two keys rather than one. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
It bothers me that no one wants to fix this. It would seem more logical to me that deletion of a file via the delete key needs more confirmation than deleting with the mouse. If you delete with the mouse that requires two clicks and mouse movement. It's pretty intentional... If you delete with the delete key, all it requires a file to be selected and hitting the delete key. There is a lot of opportunity here for accidental deletion. Say you just finished opening a file and then something fell on your keyboard and pressed the delete key. File is gone, and you might not even know it. Or say you meant to press the End key to go the last file and you pressed delete... -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 07:20 +, Druciferre wrote: It bothers me that no one wants to fix this. It would seem more logical This is not a bug, so there is nothing to fix. the Del key sends your files in the trash, they are not gone. the command $ rm does remove the files from your system, so you rather use it with the switch (-i or -I). Now, if you don't know what you are deleting or how, you'd better be off using an OS for average cretins like Windoze or OSX. I find so boring people asking for even more unnecessary warnings to excuse their own carelessness. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
nomnex, I do not appreciate your attitude, assumptions that I am novice user, and implication that I do not know how to use the rm command. My point is that the warnings in place are the unnecessary ones and that ones that ought to be necessary are what is being debated. Deleting a file with the cursor is clear and deliberate. It requires too many actions for it not it be. Pressing the delete key is not always a deliberate action. How often do you hit A when you meant to hit S? Most people read context menu items before clicking them, even expert users. Most people do NOT read the keys on their keyboard before hitting them, ESPECIALLY expert users. Also, I don't see why you feel the need to reiterate the file goes to the trash? This has been clarified quite clearly in previous posts. Regardless of where the file goes, with no confirmation on pressing the delete key, there is much greater potential you don't know the file has been removed, and then if you empty the trash, the file IS gone. Are you saying you want everyone to look over EVERY single file in their trash before emptying it? My overall point is that I don't understand why this is even a debate. Developers are acting like it's a major overall to add an if statement with a message box. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
*overhaul -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
this is not a bug though myself and many other users really feel that there needs to be a confirmation for the delete action (well at least an option to turn it on - before the file(s) are moved to trash). whilst most people are arguing that they are content with a confirmation on delete of the trash bin, my argument is that if i have already confirmed the file deleted in trash why would i ask for a delete out of trash. when you throw away a piece of paper you don't hunt through your garbage checking everything, you just throw it out. though i'm positive you think before throwing it out in the first place. can't this just be resolved with a simple added check-box for confirmation of delete before moving to trash? please -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 08:29 +, Druciferre wrote: nomnex, I do not appreciate your attitude, assumptions that I am novice user, and implication that I do not know how to use the rm command. My point is that the warnings in place are the unnecessary ones and that ones that ought to be necessary are what is being debated. What are you talking about? Del means just MOVE your files to another directory called Trash. Trash is a directory in you /home along other directories. When you actually remove files from your system (i.e. you empty the trash) you will have a WARNING message (default). What else do you need?? All the people whining along this thread have the misconception of over-protective OS with redundant features. They just can't get it right. Now look at the bug status: WON'T FIX -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
On second though, what some of you ask in this thread is a confirmation to MOVE files and that's wrong. We can do without warning confirmation for moving or copying files can't we? You have one warning when you actually REMOVE files from you system and that's appropriate. And it goes without saying that one needs to manage its Trash directory's content as any other directory. Hope that ease the grief? -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I am sorry, but I got tired of this thread. Who do I close the bug (I am the originator)? I am a happy cretin user of Windows (yes, nomnex, you give very bad impression of Linux users, unlike people in Ubuntu forums), so I do some cretin stuff like Silverlight 4 development, VLDB processing and AD management - without any issues. Specific tools for specific uses... -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
On Fri, 2010-04-30 at 12:55 +, Andrei Drynov wrote: I am sorry, but I got tired of this thread. Who do I close the bug (I am the originator)? I am a happy cretin user of Windows (yes, nomnex, you give very bad impression of Linux users, unlike people in Ubuntu forums), so I do some cretin stuff like Silverlight 4 development, VLDB processing and AD management - without any issues. Specific tools for specific uses... Oh, you want to humor me. Go head. Bugs don't close -- this is not a thread on the Ubuntu forum. See the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status to have some insight about the bug status. As for for Silverlight it is indeed just another MS cretin stuff to, once again, attempt to impose a proprietary format no one--the normal people--will ever care about. Microsoft is the bug number 1 on Launchpad Ubuntu, see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1. I don't really know why you bring this here? Go post about you skills on a MS board. Give a very bad impression of Linux users? No way. I am always glad to help other Linux users and to get help. What makes you think such thing? I have put in perspective the difference between MOVE and DELETE from the system. Obviously some (insecure) ex-MS fan boys still do not catch the difference very well, hence the whining. But that's part of the learning curve. Linux needs commitment. PS: Tired? Nothing holds you to un-subscribe. Bye -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@mac_v. thanks to clarify. side-note: it did occurred to my mind calling imbeciles imbeciles was rude, sorry about it ;-) -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
oups, typo! Edit: it did not occurred to my mind, etcetera. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I am extrapolating. but whatever, when people open a bug/comment, asking can you fix the problem while there is no problem, but these people themselves, they should be turned down. I welcome usability to some extend, eg. automount a USB drive, vs. opening the prompt to mount the volume, but this thread is not about usability, is about stupidity (and winning). Today there is a request for this, and tomorrow for that. ++ code, ++ bloat, ++ actions/settings and -- usability. The imbeciles should voice up their stupidity on commercial software boards. Windows or Mac are especially designed for them, welcome them and listen to them. Here is a perfect cretins tool http://www.symantec.com/norton/ghost (~200 MB) on Windows. Just wondering, the day (if) the very same people try rsync, they will probably open new bugs to request all sorts of warnings, ha-ha! -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@nomnex : To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . This bug isnt part of the papercuts , nor does nautilus upstream want to fix this either . Hence it is marked upstream as 'wont fix You might not agree with the bug report or its intentions , but there is no need to be rude. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
nomnex, I think you're getting one confirmation confused with a zillion. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Well, you already get a confirmation if you want to delete the trash- bin. So you are asking for two confirmations instead of one. The question is: If one confirmation does not prevent you from deleting the trash, why should a second confirmation make a difference? IMHO it doesn't. It's just bloat. But, I don't object to the way it's supposed to be implemented. It's an additional option. The default behaviour isn't changed. So you can enable it if you like joel. Finally, I agree with nomnex - although he could have been a little more polite - this issues has been completely overblown and is not very important. Ubuntu folks should not wast any more time with this topic. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I think this should be on by default... and I still do not see the point of NOT asking novice users if they are sure to delete a document... It is the one of the most dangerous thing you can do on a computer. You removed control+Alt+backspace behaviour (which is great to remove it) and I think we should do the same with delete without asking, specially when coming from the keyboard. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Thank you for your work, could you send the change to GNOME for review? -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
winning, winning, and praising... for details... FN keys not working on most of the notebooks; hardware compatibility; real software bugs, etc. there are serious issues out there with Ubuntu. those should be the paper cut bugs: hardware compatibility and usability. such feedback on a thread from a bunch or crybabies winning about will my stuff be deleted if I push a key, or can I have zillion warnings before anything happens... are you in a religious quest or something for pushing it so hard? Gnome is simple, light. use KDE if you look for bloat, or go back to Windows. Or even better, ask for your mom before pushing your DELETE key. and if she is already dead, out of confusion, hang yourself. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I made a patch that will fix this by adding a new option to the preference menu. The option is FALSE by default, meaning that default behavior is for things to stay as they are. All those who want to be notified before moving stuff to the trash just check it true. Hopefully it will be committed at some point. ** Attachment added: Add the possibility to be prompted by a confirmation dialogue before trashing stuff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/34710657/nautilus-confirm-movetotrash.patch -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
GG... You are awesome! Thank you so much. This is all that was needed to fix this problem, and as you said, by default it will change nothing. Please commit this! -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Can't believe this is not fixed. By not fixing this right away you are giving so much arguments to new users to run away. I can't explain we don't have to choice between a question before deleting or not. My mother in law is having a new computer on Ubuntu for the first time and because of this little detail not fixed I am affraid she will lose important document. She just don't understand what going on and being affraid of every button is not a great way of learning. We are not all teenagers that has a computer only to learn the system, like I was few years ago. Make this system grow up please if we want this system being more than the exception. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
aljos, I see a proposal to add an option, which would not affect the default experience of Ubuntu unless that option were activated. I see no user data showing that a confirmation dialog before moving to trash would improve user experience. I don't doubt that it would, but we can't make large (it terms of exposure to users) changes like this ad hoc. The Trash feature itself is a form of confirmation. Please don't be dumfounded -- if you think this is a paper cut, prove me wrong. Do some user testing, report your findings, and summarize the change. If the change is to show a confirmation dialog, specify what it should say, what buttons should it have? The conversation is already going on upstream, so I don't see the advantage of having the same discussion in parallel here. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
In response to David Siegel *jaw dropping dumbfoundedness* I really have very few words for your comment and the actions that followed. I have seen very few requests to solve a problem that have simpler or more strait forward solutions. I fail completely to see how your comment has anything to do with this particular bug, and must only conclude that you accidentally commented on, and changed the status of, the wrong bug. Please correct your mistake. :) Thanks. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I support the proposed change. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
This bug has no clear fix, and no user testing has been done to determine (A) if this is indeed a problem or (B) what the solution might look like. This can no longer be considered a paper cut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: round-7 = None -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
This bug has no clear fix, and no user testing has been done to determine (A) if this is indeed a problem or (B) what the solution might look like. This can no longer be considered a paper cut. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Bug #95853:Need a confirmation dialog before winning as a cry-baby The command is not DELETE. It is MOVE to trash. Use common sens before to empty your trash folder. Windows is the realm of a thousand pop up windows/warnings for every click and key one pushes. If you need a nanny, get back to it. This bug report is is merely a preference. As for the beginner idea, I am a beginner myself. I use caution at this time, and learn the bash commands to free myself from the GUI. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Yeah, use common sense. Or move on to another windowmanager, if the gnome dev's can't be bothered, to implement one stupid _option_, which is not to bother anyone. Unless activated by default. I'm using awesome now. There I can configure the behaviour all by myself. Screw you guys, I'm going home. (Eric Cartman) -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I've tried toggling the checkbox on and off for Ask before emptying Garbage bin or deleting files I'm still not getting a confirmation prompt which slightly annoys me. Like other users, I don't use the Garbage Bin unless I have to so I'd prefer the confirmation prompt when deleting! -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I don't think it's an issue, merely deleting them in nautilus as they can be recovered from the recycle bin. A notification would be good, since people may delete by accident. But what is important is for a confirmation dialogue to appear when deleting from the recycle bin, but I think we already have this. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I see different kinds of users and I would like to share my point of view. I'm one of the users who don't need a recycle bin. I'm aware of files I'm deleting and when I delete them, I really don't need them anymore. So every time I'm just deleting with shift+del and I'm getting a confirmation dialog for that! Users who don't like the confirmation dialog can switch it off in the behavior preferences, but I like it and don't want to miss it. I'm a power user only using hotkeys but sometimes I'm pressing keys faster than I'm thinking. :-) So a last warning before deleting important files irreversibly is sometimes very useful. Using the recycle bin is a different point of view. It is for users who don't know if they really want to delete files irreversibly and so to have a fall back. As said before the current recycle bin is confusing and it is not easy to find and recover files quickly. I like the changes for the recycle bin proposed in #56 combined with an undo button in nautilus for the last few file-actions. IMO having these improvements makes the recycle bin useful again. Useful or not the topic is an option for a confirmation dialog. I have to support the wish for an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files. A simple confirmation dialog with a checkbox always to confirm deleting files could please all kind of users. The default behavior should show the confirmation dialog for people expecting it and all others can uncheck it to never see it again. Why is a warning to this action important for some users? Even if you are always aware of files you are deleting, you never can be sure not pressing del by accident for example by a cat crossing the keyboard like in #14 and deleting files you were not aware of. Sure, you'll find your files in the recycle bin if you didn't disable the trash but if you don't realize that files were deleted you will wonder next time you open the recycle bin and have to spend a lot of time between searching and recovering files you wanted to delete and files deleted by accident. An undo button is a good option to quickly restore files deleted by accident but what if you didn't realize that you hit the del key? For those people who want to have consistency and don't want to have possible confirmation dialogs for every moving operation: I don't see the action delete files and in background moving them to the trash as the same action as moving files. For the user deleting files is just deleting files and not moving them to the recycle bin. This is only a fall back and in the user minds the files are already deleted. @#30: I think you cannot compare the actions like cutting files with that pressing delete. Just cutting files by pressing CTRL+x doesn't do anything - you have to press CTRL+v for inserting to achieve a filemoving. Moreover the file combination CTRL+x is not as easy as just pressing del by accident. People who press CTRL-x and then in an other directory CTRL+v know what they are doing in contrast to people who hit the del key by accident because of a very bad designed keyboard. Once again: where is the consistency? Why am I getting a confirmation dialog for direct deleting by shift+del but not by just pressing del when I disable the recycle bin? This is both deleting and not moving. Why can I select the option to ask before deleting files in nautilus preferences when it is only used for deleting files from the recycle bin? In the users view pressing the key del is for deleting files and not for moving them. Perhaps the key del is only the wrong shortcut because it suggests deleting and not moving files? What about CTRL+m for moving files to the trash without confirmation dialog and del for direct deleting with confirmation dialog (like now shift+del). One advantage for CTRL+m is not to have a shortcut that can be hit by accident with a single key and does any big changes. An other advantage is to let the key del do what it stands for: just deleting! -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I find so many parts of this discussion inane. All that is needed here is an option! Just a simple item in the preferences that allows you to enable an are you sure prompt. No change is needed to the functionality of anything. The option can be added unchecked by default and the average user will never notice. This will end this discussion since it will harm no one who doesn't want it and will get the rest of us to shut up. I have absolutely no idea why this is such a big issue. This is one of many bug reports about the same issue that i have followed for almost 6 months now. I gather that some people seem to be offended by the idea of adding this option. I have no idea why. Some other thoughts: - We are arguing about the usage of the recycling bin, and it's usefulness, and its functionality. This discussion has nothing to do with this bug/request, since it is a feature that is used differently by different people. Adding functionality to the recycle bin is not going to change the issue. - We are all different. I personally think the recycle bin concept is silly, and never use it. If i want a file gone, i delete it. I have backups, and if i'm not sure i want to delete a file, i can move it somewhere else myself. Many people would consider this to be a power user mentality, but i also like a prompt when i hit the delete key. Call me a windows user, a newbie, whatever you want. It really doesn't matter. I'm just different... like we all are. - We have been discussing a whole bunch of added functionality. I find all of this to be unnecessary. Why are we adding fancy features when all people want is an option to have an are you sure prompt? -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@Holger Berndt, I like it, I think it's a good idea! @mac_v thanks for your support. @all: Instead of a notification, maybe we could add a permanent undo /redo-feature, which looks and works like in open office. It should be familiar to most users and works fast and easy. Nodody would be bothered by windows popping up and Diego would have a fast and easy way to recover files from the trash bin - and even more! Some more food for thought, this probably goes way beyond a papercut Well, thanks for listening and good luck to Ubuntu's usability team. You shall succeed! -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@mac_v : don't worry, I was just kidding... :) What I mean is even if all of us on Launchpad are some kind of power users, some of us are more prone to say things like : I'm a grown up person and don't want to be treated by this machine like an imbecile by continually being reminded of the same damn thing each and every time. ... and some others tell thinks like : I did loose some files just because I hit the delete key accidentally(reads: *without even noticing I did*). How useful is the trashbin when it contains things that you are not even aware are inside? You empty your trashbin and voila, your data are gone! This is incredible. Two kinds of users, but a single OS to make them happy... :) -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@kikl: You still have to locate in the trash the deleted files after you accidentally delete them. This can be really cumbersome and time- consuming if there are hundreds of files in the trash. Penalizing the user this way for a small mistake seems a bad idea, specially if the warning before deleting files is to be removed as per this bug proposal. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Hi diego, Just keep you're home tidy and you wont have a problem finding stuff. The same goes for your computer, in particular your trash bin. If you've got hundreds of files in your trash bin, then it is high time to clean up the place. Do it, it's your responsibility. If you refuse to clean up your trash bin, you can enter the file name into the search bar. That's reasonably fast, isn't it? So no one is penalizing the user for a small mistake. The user has all the possibilities for correcting his mistake. The user is just expected to be a grown up person, who acts responsibly. If you've got notifications popping up all the time, you wont pay any attention to them and it won't solve your problem. Eventually you will be looking into the trash bin because the notification wasn't noticed. That's my opinion and my experience with windows vista. Maybe usability tests can confirm or refute this. I don't know. As long as these notifications can be suppressed or disappear automatically in a reasonable amount of time, I would live with it. If I had to click them each and every time in order for them to disappear, I would start cursing the computer and eventually look for another distribution, but that's just me... Maybe other people love clicking notifications, but I doubt it. Regards, kikl On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 09:39 +, Diego Moya wrote: @kikl: You still have to locate in the trash the deleted files after you accidentally delete them. This can be really cumbersome and time- consuming if there are hundreds of files in the trash. Penalizing the user this way for a small mistake seems a bad idea, specially if the warning before deleting files is to be removed as per this bug proposal. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
Seriously , this is a problem /mainly/ for keyboard layouts which have the delete key close to arrow/enter. Since this is more of a hardware specific + user preference specific issue , even if this feature is implemented, Penalizing all the users wont be fair , there *should* be a way to turn it off. [File Manager preferences Behavior tab] Used to hate the multiple confirmations I had to accept to delete files in Windows. BTW,As kikl says, notifications will be a bad implementation! It will only lead to ignoring more important notifications. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@all : this is fun stuff for an HMI designer/UX specialist... Indeed, an excellent example case for a UX course : how to make a choice between all these point of view, and make everyone happy ? IMHO, there's no way to make everyone happy, as people have antinomic opinions. It seems we have 3 classes of users, here : - power users who claim they master the machine, and don't want to be bothered by confirmation popup when they pushed the Del key - I'm responsible and educated, I know what I do - power users who recognize they may make mistakes, sometimes - I'm human, error is human, I want to be protected - lambda users who come from other horizons , who install a vanilla Karmic - I just want a computer that runs ok. IMHO, the best compromise for these profiles is to have confirmation before moving to trash and confirmation before emptying the trash = on, by default, at first install + make it customizable in some configuration menu, for masters of the machine. This will be consistent for both lambda users (who are used to be asked for confirmation, notably on Windows), power users who may make mistakes, and masters of the machine are skilled enough to go and uncheck the checbox if they don't want to be asked for confirmation... BTW : I *know* speaking about Windows as a reference sounds annoying/exasperating to some of you. But as a UX specialist, I have to say something : eventhough standards are not everything, in HMI design, they are really helpful. Making things in a different way is great, when there's a good reason to do so, and no reason to stick to the standard. But it appears that in our case, the presence of a confirmation popup is argued : there are pros and cons. In that context, sticking to the standard + making things customizable seems to be a good approach. For a lot of people, Windows is the reference : most of them started using computers with Windows, and Windows runs 95% of computers. Beside of this, there are well known usability rules in HMI design (e.g. Bastien Scapin principles) that say errors shall be managed, and notably by protecting the user against errors he may perform. Forgetting this kind of rules in HundredPapers (a project which aims at improving Ubuntu's usability...) would appear as counter-productive. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@kikl: Completely unrelated to whether it's a good idea to get undo dialogs/bars on moving to trash or not, Nautilus's trash display does indeed have poor usability. No deletion date grouping, sorting or even displaying. Also, one can't really know where the files are going to be restored to. That makes it hard to navigate or even use the trash, especially when it hasn't been emptied in a while. Also, even with clean trashes, there's no way to distinguish several files with identical names etc. I put together a small Python application to have a better view of the trash (Screenshot: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5161/bildschirmfoto1t.png). Gnome's base libraries make that pretty easy. Maybe it'd be good to have such a display in Nautilus, or maybe even standalone started from the trash applet. Anyways, although trash usability is clearly related, this seems to be orthogonal to this very bug report. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@Holger Berndt: There is bug for this feature, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/301552 But was rejected in papercuts, because this was considered a difficult task. Could you submit your idea there? @ Yann Lossouarn, I dont think anyone who has commented here considers themselves masters of the machine ;) -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
For those advocating a dialog confirmation, here's a relevant article from a usability professional, explaining why confirmation dialogs don't work in general as a way to protect user data: Never use a warning when you mean Undo http://www.alistapart.com/articles/neveruseawarning I think this is the central point in the linked article: interfaces that don’t respect habituation are very bad -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
As for my opinion on the bug, I strongly favor the Undo button on a yellow non-modal notification. For those suggesting to copy Windows, note that in Windows' Explorer there *is* a working undo feature when moving files to trash. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
The working undo feature is the trash bin! You could pop up a notification, which disappears automatically, saying: You have just deleted..., you can recover it from the trash bin. Once people get used to this, they will not pay any attention to the notification, but at least it doesn't distract your workflow. Then someone will want a louder and larger notification, possibly an emergency siren, a nuclear bomb, or a collapsing star. Once they get used to that, people won't bother to listen to or look at it anymore, . it's a vicious circle, it just doesn't work. In conclusion, people are responsible for what they do and if you empty your garbage bin without checking the content, then that's your fault, take the blame! You did it even though you were explicitly warned! This notification didn't work, so why should an additional notification make a difference? How many warnings do you need? I would like to have the option not to have this notification pop up in the future, because I know what the garbage bin is for. Most people migrating from microsoft know this anyhow. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@kikl: the trash bin is not the same as an undo. Even if it provides the same functionality, it is by far much more complex to use than a single key-press (Ctrl-z). Also last time I checked the trash bin didn't have a way to restore files to the same place they were deleted (like Windows trash bin does). Compare these two workflows: - user presses Del key by mistake. Files are moved to trash. - open the trash bin. - remember which files where selected when the mistake was made, and find them in the trash bin. - select files. - move the deleted files back to the folder (supposing the user did notice the mistake and didn't close the window) vs - user presses Del key by mistake. Files are moved to trash, and a prominent but unobtrusive message notifies the operation. - user presses Undo. The files are restored. Undo function Just Works(tm). It can be safely ignored in normal workflow, but it's just one click away when you notice you've made an error. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
@diego: You can restore to the same folder by right clicking the file in the garbage bin and checking restore. It's automatically restored to the place, where it was deleted from. Unfortunately, you didn't find that, so that should be improved too. The restore and delete permanently options in the context menu of the trash bin should appear first, since these are the most important commands in the trash bin. Furthermore, there should be dedicated buttons in the GUI of the trash bin showing these two commands only. At present you open the trash bin in nautilus, right click the file and check restore. So it's a lot easier than what you say. But granted, you didn't find it, so it should be improved. I don't think your solution is really helpful. People will just stop paying attention to the permanently reoccurring notifications you propose and in the end whine again, when they do something wrong. It's not me, it's the stupid machine, which should have warned me, grief I completely deleted the trash bin in spite of the warning, because I never check it's content, why should I, the machines fault...grief grief But, I grant you, that your solution is a lot better than having those confirmation buttons pop up everywhere. I hate that passionately! I'm a grown up person and don't want to be treated by this machine like an imbecile by continually being reminded of the same damn thing each and every time. In particular, the notification should disappear automatically and reasonably fast without the user having to interact with it... -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus
I think we have to be very careful not to copy stuff from windows, which is actually being complained about by many many users. Vista constantly asks you for all kinds of confirmations so much so that people don't read any of the stuff anymore. They just blindly klick away... What good is that? If you accidentally delete an object, then the trashbin let's you recover the object. That's what the trashbin is for and that's enough protection. If you delete the trashbin without checking the content, then that's just your fault. Or should we have a second trashbin for the items deleted from the trashbin? This is getting absurd. You don't need to be reminded every time that you are deleting an object. Those kind of permanent reminders and confirmation boxes are a nuisance, IMHO. I definitely want to switch that off, if you want to implement it. Sorry, I get passionate about this. But please don't repeat other peoples mistakes, just because user's have become used to these quirks. -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
