[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I think Nautilus' behaviour is correct. The behaviour is by design, and the confirm_trash option is doing what it is supposed to do: Request confirmation for the non-revertable actions Delete Trash and Delete files, but not for the revertable Move to trash. And guys, please stop speaking for the users - 10 vocal guys on a bug tracker don't represent a majority of users. That being said, I agree that a cluebar with an Undo button might be a useful _enhancement_ to Nautilus. But this whole discussion also has a downside. Nautilus is not the only program which can move files to the trash, so that option would either make the desktop more inconsistent, or it would have to be implemented in all applications that can send files to the trash. There might be another option: It's easy to monitor the trash, and act upon trash-related events, no matter which application caused it (Python code for having notification bubbles on trashing stuff would probably not be longer than this very post). So this feature would maybe better be implemented outside Nautilus. Of course, there is already an application that does exactly this: The trash applet. So one possible solution would be to provide an option to make this one more noisy, and maybe provide a trashing-diary with undo buttons. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I think Nautilus' behaviour is correct. The behaviour is by design, and the confirm_trash option is doing what it is supposed to do: Request confirmation for the non-revertable actions Delete Trash and Delete files, but not for the revertable Move to trash. Despite I have different opinion, I accept the Nautilus authors' decision. I just wonder if the requested behavior can be reached e.g. by some plugin. That being said, I agree that a cluebar with an Undo button might be a useful _enhancement_ to Nautilus. I can also imagine such a solution - not obtrusive, but giving sufficient visual feedback to the user, with a possibility to revert the action. Just to find find proper look and feel... Python code for having notification bubbles... Concerning some system-wide notification, I would be careful here. With the new notification system in jaunty, I can feel inflation of notification a bit as many apps still notify something (IM events, music player, incoming email...) -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I have to say Sebastien and Holger are correct... The present behavior is correct. THERE IS a confirmation while final deletion of the trash, Just because A couple of users did a mistake by ignoring the final deleting confirmation ,and not checking what they are deleting... it not useful to change the behavior for ALL the others! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Mac_v, Sebastien, Holger, I understand your point of view, and I partly agree with you : basically, I think the way Nautilus runs is good. Deleting files is possible without asking confirmation each time, and asking confirmation only before the real deletion is really fluent... BUT, what makes me say that eventhough I like current Nautilus way of behaving, I'd prefer it to be changed is the discrepancy between Nautilus/Gnome and other major OS'es. Both Windows MacOS ask confirmation before both file deletion and trash emptying. Most people expect a confirmation at this point. For better usability, we shall meet this expectation AND make this feature customizable so that people like you (and probably me) can deactivate the confirmation before file move to trash. Here's the way it's implemented in Vista : http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=595 -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
The confirmation before emptying the trash is often useless, as by the time I have to empty the trash there are often hundreds or thousands of files in it and there is no way I am going to spot that accidentily deleted file between them. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I have changed the title to better reflect the situation: the current behavior is working as designed, this bug is about get getting a new feature: an option to get a warning. The Importance of the bug should be changed to wishlist. Regarding inconsistency of behavior with other programs, there is an equivalent bug for Rhythmbox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/234353 Other programs might have this request logged also. ** Summary changed: - Delete file in Nautlus - no warning + Add confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus ** Summary changed: - Add confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus + Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Please can you answer the following question: If I open a directory in Nautilus, select a file, and press delete - will I be presented with a confirmation dialog-box? And now I close all windows, and select a file on the desktop, then press delete - will I be presented with a confirmation dialog-box? Should these two scenarios behave the same? Isn't the desktop a specific case of a folder opened in Nautilus? -- Add an option to get a confirmation dialog before deleting files in Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Marking this as High importance because it deserves some user testing to determine the appropriate solution. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = round-7 -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Just putting in my 2 cents: Wouter's suggested idea is a fantastic compromise. It allows power users to keep using the delete key without being interrupted by having to confirm an action, but things that are accidentally trashed can be quickly and easily un-done. It'll be interesting to see what the user testing shows. Perhaps we could have one of those yellow message bars that some applications use, to tell you you deleted a file and providing a button to cancel it? It is less intrusive and still provides a clue about what happened and a way to undo it. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
could people stop adding such comments there, you are only spamming people subscribed to the bug, you should discuss the change on bugzilla if you want to convince the code writters, ubuntu only distribute the option, and one could think that checking what is in the trash before emptying it would make sense -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
After losing my entire movie collection due to an accidental deletion (how was I supposed to know half my hard drive was in the trash can when I emptied it?), the lack of a confirmation option may well be enough to get me to move back to Windows. It is absolutely absurd to me that an operating system as powerful and flexible as Ubuntu won't even give me the *option* to request a dialogue box before deleting items with one keystroke. I'm a huge fan of Linux, but this is probably a deal-breaker for me -- especially since this is a feature that's been requested for years from many users and still has not been implemented. If I can't find a workaround for this, I'll be forced back to Windows, because I simply do not have the time to continually restore all of my files from backup due to one accidental keystroke. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I swear I am having the hardest time understanding those who oppose this. There is already a checkbox to ask the user whether they want a confirmation dialog for real delete. What is the big deal in having another checkbox to ask whether they want a confirmation upon move to trash??? It's 10 lines of code, for chris sake! You don't want no confirmation dialog? You leave unchanged and your life is the same. I did loose some files just because I hit the delete key accidentally(reads: *without even noticing I did*). How useful is the trashbin when it contains things that you are not even aware are inside? You empty your trashbin and voila, your data are gone! This is incredible. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
What's the problem in making it an option? So everyone will be satisfied. I need definitely a confirmation dialog, because every now and then I accidentally hit the del key without noticing. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is a bug because if there is an option Prompt for confirmation when sending a file to trash it MUST work! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is rather disappointing. First of all, we don't need notification bars, or fancy things to tell us we accidentally deleted something. Second of all, why is upstream so determined to change the mindset of the users? This is really simple, add a small option somewhere in the settings (it's not like there are an overwhelming amount of options already). Prompt for confirmation when sending a file to trash. Put a little check box next to it. Heck, you don't even have to make it checked by default. How hard is this? I can think of no easier solution to something that a large group of people consider a problem. Sadly, my words are wasted. I was growing fond of Gnome's simplicity, but this mindset has convinced me that the Gnome camp is not where i want to be... and even not where the majority of my customers want to be. This single item is actually large enough to switch them all over to KDE. Yes, i know i can use Konqueror or Dolphin in Gnome... but they're just not seemless. Good night, and have fun with your ultra user friendly GUIs that confound the masses. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
not sure why you consider not asking confirmation for actions as something confusing, do you want a dialog you choose to cut a file are you sure to be displayed when doing ctrl-X too? and a confirmation you are going to move those files there when doing a drag and drop somewhere too? -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I never said it was confusing. Using ctrl-x and ctrl-v needs no confirmation (though feel free to make it an option), and i don't think i need to explain why. Konqueror by default (at least the version i'm using) actually asks you if you want to move, copy, or link a file every time you drag and drop one. This is of course configurable. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Perhaps we could have one of those yellow message bars that some applications use, to tell you you deleted a file and providing a button to cancel it? It is less intrusive and still provides a clue about what happened and a way to undo it. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Chris Coulson chrisccoul...@googlemail.com wrote: Are you serious?! Any other desktop environment (Windows / KDE) asks. This is what the user expects! Feels like riding a sport car without brakes... That doesn't mean it is correct though. A confirmation dialog for moving to trash would be intrusive. The trash is there to cover you in the event you accidentally delete a file. If people want a dialog, then we should just get rid of the trash entirely, as it would be completely redundant. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Nautilus: Won't Fix Status in “nautilus” source package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: nautilus SUMMARY If a file or a folder is selected in Nautilus and you accidently press Delete button, they are moved to the Trash. NO warning is issued (even though in Nautilus Preferences Ask before emptying the Trash or deleting files is selected ) Very annying and dangerious bug to a common user - I deleted very important data without realising then cleaned the Trash, so lost that information. NOTES For example, Konquerer asks you if you want to delete a file or a folder. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Sun Mar 25 11:36:22 2007 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04 Uname: Linux acer 2.6.20-12-generic #2 SMP Wed Mar 21 20:55:46 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Are you serious?! Any other desktop environment (Windows / KDE) asks. This is what the user expects! Feels like riding a sport car without brakes... That doesn't mean it is correct though. A confirmation dialog for moving to trash would be intrusive. The trash is there to cover you in the event you accidentally delete a file. If people want a dialog, then we should just get rid of the trash entirely, as it would be completely redundant. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
upstream disagree that's a bug, they have a point you can restore things moved in the trash easily and adding confirmation dialogs is rather annoying than useful in most of the cases Are you serious?! Any other desktop environment (Windows / KDE) asks. This is what the user expects! Feels like riding a sport car without brakes... -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
upstream disagree that's a bug, they have a point you can restore things moved in the trash easily and adding confirmation dialogs is rather annoying than useful in most of the cases -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I have accidentally pressed the delete key... and I HAVE LOST my data because I have not looked for disappeared icon 2 days ago!!! I don't know that gnome put this files directly to the Recycle Bin... because when I delete a file with the right click of the mouse Gnome tell me are you sure? and this is the correct behaviour!! The rules ask for deleting is clear... ASK ASK ASK... why Gnome does not ASK if I will that Gnome MUST ASK??? FIX this (really simple and stupid) bug please!!! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I'm actually of the other camp. I get frustrated having to lose time confirming every action I wish to perform. It makes me scream Yes I wish to delete this file, why do you think I pressed delete in the first place? at my screen. It makes me think back in horror to the days I used that fisherprice green-blue operating system. Yes, true. I hate the Trash. I do not approve with this concept. If I want to delete, I press shift + del to delete the freakin file or i use rm WITHOUT the interactive option. I hate being asked for confirmation of things I know I want to do. I do not put things in Trash, I delete. Now if I happen to accidentially press delete, nautilus moves my files away without asking. I do not like that. My torrent folders just moved to the trash and my torrent app whined it could not access the anymore. I lose files because of this behaviour. Please appeal to the people in charge to put an OPTION there where you can disable the trash OR just put a bloody confirmation dialog there. The del key is just tooo much in reach to be accidentially pressed. Ubuntu gets more and more user friendly with every release, why not put that there, too. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
nautilus asks confirmation before deleting but not when moving to trash there is nothing destructive for your datas there -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
My impression is that this bug was meant to be like it is right now. If the previous is true, then this discussion should not exist within this bug-reporting system. I can't convince myself that the developers of nautilus didn't think about it, since many other operative systems include this behavior. The question will be then... why do they take this decision? I would really love to hear some arguments regarding this respect. reading the comments, I found my self very impressed to see how people try to enforce others to use a system that doesn't ask for confirmation before deleting, while others beg for having a warning before removing a file. My opinion is that clearly a simple check box can avoid this disjunctive as the decision is left to the user of each system. best regards -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
We should differentiating the two ways of sending a file to the trash bin - dragging and dropping, or pressing the Delete key. In the case of drag'n'drop, it is not expected to confirm the file 'deletion'. This is the way it is done on MS Windows also. In the case of pressing 'Delete', I believe it is expected (by default!) to confirm the file operation. It is reasonable to include an option to disable the confirmation, either by a system setting, or by a 'Don't ask again' check-box shown on the confirmation dialog (unchecked when shown). File deletion confirmation when pressing 'Delete' is also used in MS Windows. I believe this is the expected behavior by the majority of users, especially new and inexperienced users. As said, more advanced users can disable this feature. The facts are that users accidentally delete files by pressing 'Del' button, and sometimes they don't notice that, as the icon just disappears (is there any sound played by default?). Later, after emptying the recycle bin, they realize it is gone. Some users don't know they should look the disappeared files there... there is nothing destructive for your datas there When a file is moved to the trash bin, the user considers it GONE. Not all users know to look for the files there, not all of them know they can restore it. Data should not be kept there, so being there means it is deleted. Moving it out from there is a restoration operation, not a normal arrangement of the user's data. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Has nautilus always been this way? I find it hard to believe that any file manager would not have this option available. I have been a konqueror user for a while and was hoping to get used to nautilus, but have come across many very basic issues like this one. I will be switching back to konqueror until this is fixed. This bug is far to risky for me. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This behaviour is really incredible. I can't believe this *** bug *** has to be discussed so lengthy and has not yet been fixed. If you don't like to get a warning when deleting a file, you should just had to check the appropriate option to get rid of the warning. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is my patch (it's for SVN). If Ask before emptying the Trash or deleting files is checked in Nautilus preferences it will show a confirmation dialog when trying to trash something. The dialog text needs to be translated, it will default to english. I also posted this patch in Mailing List on Wed, 17 Dec 2008. ** Attachment added: patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20798458/patch -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
not nominating this bug that's not a new behaviour and in no way a stopper for intrepid -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I'm actually of the other camp. I get frustrated having to lose time confirming every action I wish to perform. It makes me scream Yes I wish to delete this file, why do you think I pressed delete in the first place? at my screen. It makes me think back in horror to the days I used that fisherprice green-blue operating system. If you press delete and clear the trash without looking which files you will be deleting, than sure you will be eventually loosing files and using computers is going to be dangerous for you. But people please, we have countless backup and versioning systems to save us from disaster. And the terror of cats can be overcome by locking your computer if you leave it unattended. Confirmation dialogs are just plain annoying. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I feel this bug should have highest importance. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Any progress on this one? I seem to be able to delete a folder from my Ubuntu file server by simply clicking the delete key. (When viewing the shared directory from my Ubuntu hardy desktop) This is really dangerous as (I don't believe) it goes into any kind of trash folder - the data is simply lost. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is a no brainer that most software developers figured out decades ago. I can't think of one legitimate reason that this should not be an option. It's far to easy to make the mistake of moving a file/folder to the trash bin without noticing. There should be an option to confirm any delete or move to trash operation. Aside from the fat finger mistakes, there is the occasional confusion about which window has focus that can lead to an unwanted move to trash. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Please take a look at my keyboard. My delete key is near the up arrow key so I delete accidentally many files. I reported this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the answer was: because this is not windows, and because you can always go to the trash bin and undelete it again. :-) 1. This is not windows but files goes without warning or confirmation into Trash and there is no restore action so everything to go in the right place. If you delete a file and you don't remember the right location there can be a problem. 2. The chance to wrote accidentally a delete command into console is smaller than pressing del key. So I think is very dangerous. 3. This is delete, no creating accidentally a new file or whatever. Is not so hard to implement an option ( [] confirm deleting files) Please fix it... This behavior must be optionally. I want confirmation... I check option. Someone else don't want confirmation?... uncheck option. I don't like enforcements. Regards. ** Attachment added: keyboard.jpg http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12696782/keyboard.jpg -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: nautilus Status: New = Confirmed -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is very dangerous! We are talking about users data and important data here! This should always be handled with care! Please, fix this! Nautilus SHOULD warn! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
you will not convince people by repeting the same comments, you are welcome to work on the issue, there is thousand of bugs and a small team working on those -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I agree! It should ask for confirmation before it deletes files! People can accidentally press 'delete' and delete files accidentally without even realizing it, that is dangerous! With lots of file in trash, people don't inspect all, and just click 'Empty Trash'. New users, if they expect to see confirmation dialog, and they don't, they can panic. Importance: Low? This is peoples data at risk here! Fix this ASAP! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Another vote for this one. I'm a pretty advanced user, and spent 5 minutes today looking for files that disappeared after I misclicked. Nautilus should definitely offer the option to confirm before moving or deleting. Displaying the details of the operation in the status bar would also be helpful (moved/deleted these files from dir1 to dir2). -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
This is irritating to me, I wish it would include a working toggle to enable a dialog warning when deleting files. At least remove the part in the checkbox description under nautilus prefs that says or deleting files since it doesn't work. Someone fix this please :) -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
That's interesting because quite many NTFS-3G users complain to us developers about Nautilus moving deleted files to the .Trash-username' directory in the root of the NTFS volume they are not aware of: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#diskspace Given that many people are confused in either case, a reasonable default behavior seems to be - asking for confirmation - checkbox if the files should be permanently removed or moved to a __specified__ trashbin - potentially a checkbox if user wants the same confirmation windows in the future -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
Things get even worse if you are working on a ntfs partition using ntfs-3g. In this case, the files are completely removed without asking, no trash involved! -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
I am in favour to fix this. Or at least to have the option to choose if the user want or no want the warning. -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95853 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://launchpad.net/bugs/95853 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #316807 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316807 ** Also affects: nautilus (upstream) via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316807 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://launchpad.net/bugs/95853 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
There is a discussion in gnome.org about this issue. I'm personally in favour of not asking confirmation but warning the user (for instance through the status bar message). -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://launchpad.net/bugs/95853 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 95853] Re: Delete file in Nautlus - no warning
** Changed in: nautilus (upstream) Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed -- Delete file in Nautlus - no warning https://launchpad.net/bugs/95853 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs