Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Vic Main <240...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > To quote maJongg.. > > "I have been hit by the "monitor not detected" problem too, . I think the > problem is very common, but is often mis-diagnosed as a "driver issue". > "The problems has become a virtual show-stopper" It was that for me. I tried > to fix the problem (or at least get around it at least 2 years ago) I was > running > > Ubuntu 8.x, and ended up with a 800x600 resolution. I recently installed > version 10.04 and tried to resolve this problem again. At least the > generic driver would do 1024x768. I have a NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 with > AGP8X card, and found out how to get around this problem. > > I have to echo the sentiments of majongg and TheZorch regarding this > problem hindering the adoption of Linux, it certainly did for me!!. I > spent at least a full day trying to get my monitor to display correctly. > Thanks to the generous help from the forum. > > The main problem (let alone the monitor not being recognized), is that the > software wildly guesses at the range of the HSYNC and VSYNC > which it writes to the xorg.conf file. > > Thanks, Vic > The quickest way this can be fixed is if the feature in the screen resolution window that let you "manually" select your monitor was put back where it belongs, or a new GUI was made just for the monitor that does the same thing. It is not the drivers, its Xorg and also the fact that this feature was "removed" from Ubuntu several versions back when it shouldn't have been. Honestly, this could have and should have been fixed long ago. What is the problem? Why hasn't this been dealt with in like 2 years? Don't tell me its not a high priority issue, it is a High Priority issue because this problem has "prevented" new users from adopting Ubuntu. This is serious, this a usability issue, and it needs to be dealt with ASAP. No other answer is acceptable, its been long enough, get this issue fixed. Its an embarrassment to the community that this problem has persisted for so long, and its an embarrassment to LaunchPad that this bug hasn't been made a high priority so it can finally get fixed. Pass this onto which even group this needs to go to and have them do something about this instead of letting the problem molder. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion." ~ Arthur C. Clarke "The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion and politics, but it is not the path to knowledge, and there is no place for it in the endeavor of science. " ~ Carl Sagan Visit My Site: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1 To Contact Me: http://sites.google.com/site/thezorch/home-1/zorch-central---contacts Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM, mahjongg wrote: > I was finally able to give an old laptop the 1024 x 768 resolution I > knew the LCD could do (from the 800 x 600 + large gray border around it > it did do because Ubuntu 9.10 did a "monitor not detected" on me) by > adding an xorg.conf text file in /etc/X11 with just the following few > lines only: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Configured Monitor" > HorizSync 60-60 > VertRefresh 43-117 > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Monitor "Configured Monitor" > Device "Configured Video Device" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > I keep my settings from my original xorg.conf file around to copy & paste into a new xorg.conf whenever I reinstall Ubuntu. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to enable the Nvidia drivers properly with it. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Twitter: TheZorch | Skype: thezorch AIM: thezo...@gmail.com | Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 | GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:52 AM, CymruAmBydd wrote: > Thank you Cefn, excellent work around. > > I have just installed 9.10 having previously used Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid > and Jaunty and having to replace my trusty iiyama vision master pro 512 > with a Sony Multiscan 520GS and swapping out my Belkin Omniview E-series > KVM for the Avocent Switchview 100 KVM; which has sound. Kept the FX5200 > graphics card. Somewhere along the line I lost control of the monitor > refresh rate. > > I found the tech specs for my Sony Multiscan 520GS i.e. max resolution > of 1600 x 1200 @75Hz etc. > > gtf to generate the modeline > > and edited xorg.conf in a terminal (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf): > > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Sony CPD-520GS" > HorizSync 30-96 > VertRefresh 48-160 > Modeline "1600x1200_75.00" 205.99 1600 1720 1896 2192 1200 1201 > 1204$ > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Device "Default Device" > Monitor "Sony CPD-520GS" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200_75.00" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "glx" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Default Device" > Driver "nvidia" > Option "NoLogo" "True" > EndSection > > > NOW at last I have control! > > It shouldn't be like this. > > The only minor wrinkle is that I can't get the max resolution. > > The best I can do is 1400 x 1050 @ 70Hz but at least it's workable i.e. > the I have control and the screen doesn't wobble any more. > > Failure to get the max res may be down to the KVM switch but having > spent hours this morning I'm not about to put the monitor directly onto > the pc to test this - I might do it later. > > NB. 1400 x 1050 @ 75Hz doesn't work and 1400 x 1050 @ 85Hz doesn't work, > none of the 4:3 aspect ratio 1600 x 1200's work i.e. very strange > distorted and dulled or absent image which luckily reverts back to the > previous setting after a short while to give me the chance of another > attempt. > > Thank you. > This is why Ubuntu, and X.org in general, needs to have a way to manually select what type of monitor you have in a GUI. This problem has persisted long enough, when will this be resolved? Its now beyond time for this to be fixed. Its ridiculous that such a simple matter as this has been allowed to molder this long, and its such a vital component of the operating system ... the Display. Without it you can't use Ubuntu at all. Why hasn't this problem been resolved? This problem has existed in Ubuntu since 8.04. Having to edit a config file (ie; xorg.conf) to get something as simple as this to work properly in a Modern Day Operating System is absolutely unacceptable. Canonical needs to stop putting their heads in the sand and fix this embarrassment. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Twitter: TheZorch | Skype: thezorch AIM: thezo...@gmail.com | Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 | GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your PC from the Bondage of Windows http://www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is a bug assignee. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
I was told by someone in an Ubuntu support mailing list that you can make a copy of the xorg.conf file that has the proper video card and monitor configurations and overwrite the xorg.conf file in a new install which doesn't properly detect these settings and the copied file will work. Is this true? The next release of Ubuntu is coming up and I want to do a full reinstall rather than an upgrade, so can I use my existing xorg.comf file to make my current display settings work properly? -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Skype: thezorch (Voice and/or Chat) AIM: thezo...@gmail.com Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your Computer from the Tyranny of Microsoft www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On 3/7/09, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > such agressive behaviour is not welcome on bugs, that's not up to you to > say what other people have to do those contributors there are mostly > volunteer doing work on their after work hours to fix issues, nobody > removed something working the new tool use the current xorg api where > the other told was hackish and has many issues and buggy cases > Then what is being done to resolve this? Give us a solution to this, its a perfectly reasonable request. I am sorry for getting angry, but I've been waiting a very long time for a fix to this problem and have yet to receive an answer. Don't ignore us, help us, please. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
Saying that this is a "harder than you might think" problem to fix is a cop out. How hard is it to add a manual configuration tab to the screen resolution app so you can tell X Windows to use "X" type monitor settings when its auto-configuration method gets it wrong. No, this not only needs to be fixed it "must" be fixed. The feature should never have been removed in the first place it was a bad call to do so. Let me put it this way, this missing feature is "hindering" the adoption of Ubuntu by new users, period. Fixing this should be high-priority, no excuses. The only acceptable outcome is to fix this before the next release of Ubuntu, not doing so is a failure of the development community to listen to the needs of the user base. -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com http://thezorch.googlepages.com/home Skype: thezorch (Voice and/or Chat) AIM: thezo...@gmail.com Yahoo IM: zorchhaney ICQ: 343230252 GoogleTalk: thezorch MSN Messeger: haneymich...@hotmail.com Free Your Computer from the Tyranny of Microsoft www.ubuntu.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
It is horribly difficult to put back an existing manual configuration utility that was present in a recent version? That is the original solution I wanted. Fixing every possible permutation of hardware in the automatic config would be horribly difficult, but that seems to be the only thing you might be willing to do. I simply want SOME mechanism to configure my laptop, and I had one, and it went away and the replacement is broken. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > those comment about how things are urgent and have to be fixed now will > not make those fixed faster, quite the contrary if you insist on blaming > the graphical tool where the issue is also in infrastructure it's using, > nobody disagree that should be fixed but that's not as easy as you seem > to think > > -- > can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 240916] Re: can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > reading again the description it could be a feature request for the > capplet, the screen detection should be just working in xorg though and > there is no plan to add monitor configuration to this capplet > No monitor configuration options in the genome screen resolution capplet is a serious limitation and is poor design. Users who encounter this problem face a long and frustrating process of trying to fix Xorg's inability to properly detect the video modes their hardware can support. This is an option that should never have been removed and should remain a part of the capplet in all future versions in the event Xorg fails to properly detect video settings. This is a common sense option that most users would expect to find. The lack of this option in the current versions of Ubuntu has forced many new users to abandon the operating system because there is no simple solution to fix the screen resolution issue. The addition of this option to the screen resolution capplet must be regarded as "Critical". -- Michael "TheZorch" Haney thezo...@gmail.com -- can't configure display resolution (monitor, graphics card) manually in gui https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240916 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-control-center in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
