Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Loye Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, it's not a small, simple fix. Contrary to Sarah's assertion, setting focus_on_map to false in every instance it appears in update-manager *fixes* update-manager: Update-manager ceases to steal focus when that's done. So could you provide a patch so others can test? Instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-sync.html -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
So could you provide a patch so others can test? Somebody else will have to run with the ball on that. -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On 12/11/2008 07:27 AM, Andrew Conkling wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Loye Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, it's not a small, simple fix. Contrary to Sarah's assertion, setting focus_on_map to false in every instance it appears in update-manager *fixes* update-manager: Update-manager ceases to steal focus when that's done. So could you provide a patch so others can test? Instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ubuntu-sync.html Bug 306672 is about update-manager grabbing focus too often, By the looks of this bug it doesn't grab focus unless told to? -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from UnforgivenIII -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
Bug 306672 is about update-manager grabbing focus too often, By the looks of this bug it doesn't grab focus unless told to? Not correct. Update-manager grabs focus inappropriately, and it needs to be fixed. Update-manager steals focus whenever it creates a window. The fix is to change the focus_on_map setting to false, as I have described. In some circumstances, update-manager sends requests to gkdebconf and other debconf frontends, which ALSO steal focus. I've described the fix in a prior post. Gkdebconf and the debconf frontends are written in different languages, so the syntax is different, but they share the same solution: Tell those programs not to grab focus when it creates the window. To my knowledge, separate bugs have not been created for gkdebconf and debconf to fix their problems, but I leave that to the developers responsible that (according to some) are already aware. I don't want to be uncool, even if I am just a hapless gringo in a Texas border town. ;-) Happy Trails, Loye Young Isaac Young Computer Company Laredo, Texas http://www.iycc.net -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
[banging head on desk] Update-manager doesn't get focus randomly. It has to ask for it. The window manager (metacity) just does what it's told to do. Anything the window manager does to prevent focus-stealing is a sub-optimal solution, but it's a necessary one when applications are written egocentrically. (By this, I'm not talking about the developer's mental health issues: we're all egocentric. An egocentric application means an application written as if the application is either the only application running or the most important application to the user at the time) Obviously, it's not a small, simple fix. Contrary to Sarah's assertion, setting focus_on_map to false in every instance it appears in update-manager *fixes* update-manager: Update-manager ceases to steal focus when that's done. Here are the files affected: ./data/glade/UpdateManager.glade ./AutoUpgradeTester/DistUpgrade/DistUpgrade.glade ./DistUpgrade/DistUpgrade.glade ./debian/update-manager/usr/share/update-manager/glade/UpdateManager.glade ./debian/update-manager/usr/share/update-manager/glade/DistUpgrade.glade ./debian/tmp/usr/share/update-manager/glade/UpdateManager.glade ./debian/tmp/usr/share/update-manager/glade/DistUpgrade.glade Unfortunately, it doesn't fix gkdebconf or debconf's frontends, which ALSO have the same bug. Here's how to fix those: gkdebconf (I'm using version 1.2.64ubuntu1 to test): Insert the following line 101 in ./src/interface.c: code gtk_window_set_focus_on_map (GTK_WINDOW(win), FALSE); /code and recompile. debconf (I'm using version 1.5.20): Insert the following line 70 to /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm: code $this-win-set_focus_on_map(0); /code Fixing the other frontends (e.g., KDE) are left as an exercise. Caveat: The changes to update-manager described above need to be fine tuned. It's a Good Thing (tm) to allow the GtkWindow to get focus when the user fires up Update-Manager the first time. I just didn't have the patience to figure where in the code that is. Happy Trails, Loye Young Isaac Young Computer Company Laredo, Texas http://www.iycc.net -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:34:29PM -, Loye Young wrote: Daniel, unless you know of someone else to fix this, the maintainer of the package is the right person. In this case, the maintainer is ubuntu- core-dev. I'm afraid that is not the right way to respond to this bug report. It is already filed in the appropriate place, and the developers responsible for this component are already aware of it by virtue of being bug contacts for this package in Launchpad. There is no need to take any further action in order to notify the appropriate people, and assigning bugs inappropriately causes a nuisance. Please don't do it. -- - mdz -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
Please don't assign to ubuntu-core-dev, really. I meant to. Really. It sends a mail to all core-devs (including those who don't work on update-manager...). That's a Good Thing (tm). I knew what I was doing and what the effects would be. There is no need to take any further action in order to notify the appropriate people, The process must be broken, because this bug is two years old and hasn't been assigned. The bug severity hasn't even been set (which, IMHO, should be HIGH). BTW, the problem isn't metacity. The problem is that update-manager should not ask for focus in the first place. This is a problem that has been solved over and over again in other applications. the developers responsible for this component are already aware of it by virtue of being bug contacts for this package in Launchpad. That so? H. . . . .So which of said developers responsible have any idea how to turn off focus-stealing? off-topic If assigning the bug to ubuntu-core-dev is a Bad Thing (tm), perhaps there should be a way to flag ubuntu-core-dev as a Wrong Person (tm) and tell ubuntu_update-manager.assignee that the Wrong Person (tm) cannot be a ValidAssignee. /off-topic Happy Trails, Loye Young Isaac Young Computer Company Laredo, Texas http://www.iycc.net -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Loye Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the problem isn't metacity. The problem is that update-manager should not ask for focus in the first place. This is a problem that has been solved over and over again in other applications. This is known already. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/35876/comments/31and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/35876/comments/33. -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM, dbsoundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I experience in Hardy, no compiz. It is very annoying, because I have the normal desktop effects enabled, which is generally stable on my system, but my processor is an Athlon XP, so when I'm multi-tasking (as always), it makes my music skip, text is slow, it just eats up my CPU until it can turn the screen half-black and white, then go back, then repeat, etc. This sounds like general CPU/buffer problems, which may be bugworthy, but this report is not that. This is about the windows stealing focus, popping up in front of other things. ** Attachment added: unnamed http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13267891/unnamed -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 35876] Re: 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, dbsoundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Andrew, I was citing the effects of the problem just as an example, the main issue is indeed just that the windows steal the focus. For me, that sets off that chain reaction, because of my not-so-fast processor. I would definitely like to see the stealing focus feature removed. OK, sorry for the confusion. :) ** Attachment added: unnamed http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13268137/unnamed -- 'Downloading package information' and 'building dependency tree' progress dialogs steal focus https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/35876 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to metacity in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
