Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-10-20 Thread Ghoti
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Matt Perry <437...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> There is a plan to create a new sound theme. Please see this blueprint
> (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/design-m-sound-theme) and
> this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
> sounds/+bug/539169).

Even if there is a plan for _new_ sounds, however pleasing they might
be, allowing for a user to opt for _no_ sounds should still be doable
without renaming files buried in /usr/share/sounds/.


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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-10-18 Thread NoOp
On 10/16/2010 02:42 PM, Jon Loldrup wrote:
> I wrote: "This bug is also around in Maverick Meerkat :("
> 
> Let me clarify:
> * In System –> Administration –> Login Screen I have unchecked ‘Play login 
> sound’
> * In System –> Settings –> Sounds I have chosen the sound theme to "no sounds"
> 
> If user NoOp is right in comment #88 about unchecking 'Play login sound'
> fixes the problem in Lucid, then the behavior I report is a regression
> for Maverick Meerkat.
> 

Don't know. I no longer install/test 10.10 due to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/626974
[ABI change in xorg 1.9 breaks legacy nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers
in Maverick]

When I can run 10.10 on my systems with nvidia-96 then I'll have another
look. Until then my systems will stay at 10.04.

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-04-10 Thread HardDisk
disable from System/Preferences/Startup Applications/Gnome Login Sound

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Barry Warsaw 
wrote:

> Something about this is still not right.  I'm running Lucid beta,
> updated to current packages.  I have "Play login sound" disabled in
> Login Screen Settings, and yet when I log in, I still get a login sound.
> This machine was a fresh install of Lucid, but instead of drum sounds on
> login, I'm getting the old music score.
>
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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-03-25 Thread NoOp
On 03/24/2010 03:20 AM, Launchpad Bug Tracker wrote:
> This bug was fixed in the package gdm - 2.29.92-0ubuntu5
> 
> ---
> gdm (2.29.92-0ubuntu5) lucid; urgency=low
> 
>   [ Robert Ancell ]
>   * debian/patches/09_gdmsetup.patch:
>   * debian/patches/15_gdmsetup_default_session.patch:
>   * debian/patches/09_gdmserver_sound_settings.patch:
> - Add startup sound configuration
> - Merged 15_gdmsetup_default_session.patch into 09_gdmsetup.patch
> 
>[ Didier Roche ]
>* debian/patches/09_gdmserver_sound_settings.patch: (LP: #437429)
>* debian/patches/15_gdmsetup_default_session.patch:
>  - add gconftool calls to get/set sound parameter
>  - fix some wrong signal call and missing callback function
>* debian/patches/25_update_gconf_directories.patch:
>  - readd $HOME/.gconf between default and mandatory to take changes
>into account
>  -- Didier RocheWed, 24 Mar 2010 11:11:33 +0100
> 
> ** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu Lucid)
>Status: Triaged => Fix Released
> 

Thank you!

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-02-27 Thread Ben Crisford
To answer your question - I like login sounds :P.

I guess that some people do, and some people dont.  So should it not be an
option during installation?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Ben  wrote:

> The real question is; who actually likes login sounds?  I can see
> maybe the first time you login after installing Ubuntu, or maybe the
> first time after upgrading to a new release, but EVERY SINGLE TIME you
> log in?  Why is that even remotely desirable?
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Philipp Morger
>  wrote:
> > Next time: Don't implement things, that aren't ready for production
> > (read: half-baked). Otherwise you'll get tons of mad users.
> >
> > If you don't get tons of mad users, it's either because they don't care,
> > or because there is no user-base or because of people like you who try
> > to shut people mouth just because they say what's going wrong.
> >
> > I could have simply said "me 2" or "+1", but I considered it would be
> > more helpful for does people who just think "WHOA, latest is greatest"
> > that it might have some implications, which they didn't consider - so I
> > spelled it out for them, so they might reconsider next time.
> >
> > And like in all things, the more people scream for a solution, the
> > faster usually business attends to it - you usually don't get a solution
> > for something that doesn't impose a problem first hand.
> >
> > BTW: I forgot to add, that it's a lousy idea to play a sound when a
> > maschine is ready to log in, imagine an open office of 30 workstation
> > between 8:00 and 8:10 am. I consider it a thing that should not have
> > been copied from Mac, Win et. al. in the first place. So if you would
> > ask me, I would vote for completely rid of the code that plays any sound
> > when a maschine boots.
> >
> > regards
> > Philipp
> >
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> >
> > Status in GDM: The Gnome Display Manager: Unknown
> > Status in “gdm” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> > Status in “ubuntu-sounds” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
> >
> > Bug description:
> > ==
> > WORKAROUNDS
> > ==
> > NOTE: These workarounds disable the "system ready" sound (the drums).
> They will not disable the "successful login" and "logout" sounds. Go to
> Settings -> Sounds and set the sound theme to "no sounds" to disable these.
> >
> > 1) Disable all sounds for the login screen via gconf
> > $ sudo su gdm -c "gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds
> --type bool false"
> >
> > -OR-
> >
> > 2) Rename the system-ready.ogg sound file
> > $ sudo mv -v /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg{,.disabled}
> >
> > ==
> > BUG
> > ==
> > When you log into Karmic using a Gnome session, you get a drum sound.
>  There are many situations where you need a silent boot process, but it
> appears that this is impossible under Karmic.
> >
> > In Jaunty and previous, you could configure gdm to log you in silently.
>  This configuration has been removed from Karmic.  Even opening Sound
> Preferences and choosing "No sounds" for "Sound theme" or disabling window
> and button sounds does not prevent the login sound from occurring.
> >
> > Users must have the ability to login silently.
> >
> > Package: xsplash 0.8.1-0ubuntu1
> > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-11.36-generic
> > SourcePackage: xsplash
> > Uname: Linux 2.6.31-11-generic x86_64
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
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> >
>
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> Status in GDM: The Gnome Display Manager: Unknown
> Status in “gdm” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in “ubuntu-sounds” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> ==
> WORKAROUNDS
> ==
> NOTE: These workarounds disable the "system ready" sound (the drums). They
> will not disable the "successful login" and "logout" sounds. Go to Settings
> -> Sounds and set the sound theme to "no sounds" to disable these.
>
> 1) Disable all sounds for the login screen via gconf
> $ sudo su gdm -c "gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds
> --type bool false"
>
> -OR-
>
> 2) Rename the system-ready.ogg sound file
> $ sudo mv -v /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg{,.disabled}
>
> ==
> BUG
> ==
> When you log into Karmic using a Gnome session, you get a drum sound.
>  There are many situations where you need a silent boot process, but it
> appears that this is impossible under Karmic.
>
> In Jaunty and previous, you could configure gdm to log you in silently.
>  This configuration has been removed from Karmic.  Even opening Sound
> Preferences

Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-02-27 Thread Ben
The real question is; who actually likes login sounds?  I can see
maybe the first time you login after installing Ubuntu, or maybe the
first time after upgrading to a new release, but EVERY SINGLE TIME you
log in?  Why is that even remotely desirable?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Philipp Morger
 wrote:
> Next time: Don't implement things, that aren't ready for production
> (read: half-baked). Otherwise you'll get tons of mad users.
>
> If you don't get tons of mad users, it's either because they don't care,
> or because there is no user-base or because of people like you who try
> to shut people mouth just because they say what's going wrong.
>
> I could have simply said "me 2" or "+1", but I considered it would be
> more helpful for does people who just think "WHOA, latest is greatest"
> that it might have some implications, which they didn't consider - so I
> spelled it out for them, so they might reconsider next time.
>
> And like in all things, the more people scream for a solution, the
> faster usually business attends to it - you usually don't get a solution
> for something that doesn't impose a problem first hand.
>
> BTW: I forgot to add, that it's a lousy idea to play a sound when a
> maschine is ready to log in, imagine an open office of 30 workstation
> between 8:00 and 8:10 am. I consider it a thing that should not have
> been copied from Mac, Win et. al. in the first place. So if you would
> ask me, I would vote for completely rid of the code that plays any sound
> when a maschine boots.
>
> regards
> Philipp
>
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>
> Status in GDM: The Gnome Display Manager: Unknown
> Status in “gdm” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
> Status in “ubuntu-sounds” package in Ubuntu: Invalid
>
> Bug description:
> ==
> WORKAROUNDS
> ==
> NOTE: These workarounds disable the "system ready" sound (the drums). They 
> will not disable the "successful login" and "logout" sounds. Go to Settings 
> -> Sounds and set the sound theme to "no sounds" to disable these.
>
> 1) Disable all sounds for the login screen via gconf
> $ sudo su gdm -c "gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds --type 
> bool false"
>
> -OR-
>
> 2) Rename the system-ready.ogg sound file
> $ sudo mv -v /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg{,.disabled}
>
> ==
> BUG
> ==
> When you log into Karmic using a Gnome session, you get a drum sound.  There 
> are many situations where you need a silent boot process, but it appears that 
> this is impossible under Karmic.
>
> In Jaunty and previous, you could configure gdm to log you in silently.  This 
> configuration has been removed from Karmic.  Even opening Sound Preferences 
> and choosing "No sounds" for "Sound theme" or disabling window and button 
> sounds does not prevent the login sound from occurring.
>
> Users must have the ability to login silently.
>
> Package: xsplash 0.8.1-0ubuntu1
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-11.36-generic
> SourcePackage: xsplash
> Uname: Linux 2.6.31-11-generic x86_64
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/437429/+subscribe
>

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-02-27 Thread Chris Coulson
On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 15:26 +, Philipp Morger wrote:
> I consider this very grave and sad - it's major regression from gdm1, as
> this one was fully configurable and gdm2 is a mere shadow of it.
> Furthermore I'm running now Lucid, which is an LTS, so LTS users have to
> bear it for the next 3 years. It clearly shows for me, that this project
> is seriously missing some business attitude in regard to usability. This
> thing here is not a paper-cut, it's a darn samurai-sword-cut!
> 
Comments like that aren't helpful in the slightest. What the project is
missing is some man-power to implement the changes needed. We know that
the feature is missing, we want to be able to implement it and we know
that users want the feature too - we don't need people like you writing
unhelpful comments like this.

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2010-01-30 Thread Dylan McCall
Those seeking a GUI workaround, there is a solution! You just need to
pick a different sound theme. Unfortunately there's next to no
selection, but you can install the package sound-theme-freedesktop
(the one Fedora uses), which is VERY tastefully done. Ubuntu's is a
tad out of date vs. Fedora (no pop sound when you adjust volume,
mainly), but the login sound is recorded at a sane volume and a bit
shorter.

Right now there's a big chunk of GUI to configure the alert sound from
the sound preferences. Seems a bit arbitrary; definitely could use
some review to decide which sound options are most important to
people. Maybe a nice way to fix this would be to identify the priority
of sounds done via Canberra and give the user an option for whether he
wants low priority ones.

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2009-12-13 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
2009/12/13 Lars Wirzenius :
> Why will the second gconf setting not be overwritten by updates like the
> first one did?

My statement was based just on my experience during Karmic cycle.
I trust the package managers not to change such global setting as
sound mute/unmute.

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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2009-11-10 Thread Jim Braux-Zin
I think we should focus here on the lack of GUI for disabling the GDM sound
(system ready). The Gnome login sound is more easily disabled even if it
would be worth opening a bug about the problem with Empathy's notifications
etc.

2009/11/10 lightrush 

> @Przemyslaw
> You have a point but not exactly. Notice that I mentioned disabling other
> sounds than System Ready. Both solutions affect the whole system. These
> fixes:
>
> sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/sound/active --type
> bool false
> or:
> sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set
> /desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds --type bool false
>
> turn off all sound notifications for GDM which is OK because we don't
> run under GDM, but as I mentioned above, if we want to disable the GNOME
> Login sound (not System Ready) and we apply the same fix for the running
> user then all sound notifications are turned off including Empathy's
> since they are integrated with GNOME's.
>
> Whereas renaming the files we do not want to play eradicates ONLY that
> sound notification wherever it is used. Indeed all applications that use
> this particular notification will not play it anymore. Fortunately the
> sound files seem well separated by notification so that problem does not
> appear.
>
> Based on the aforementioned premises I advise people to simply rename
> the sounds which they do not want to hear and that will leave the other
> notifications on.
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Re: [Bug 437429] Re: No GUI to configure/disable login sound

2009-11-10 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
2009/11/10 lightrush :
> @Paul Heidelman
> Renaming the files in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/ is the only way to 
> deactivate certain sounds without affecting the whole >sound notification 
> system.

I would say the opposite - renaming files will surely affect your
whole system sounds.
You should just use the solution from one of the above comments:

try:
sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/sound/active --type
bool false
or:
sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set
/desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds --type bool false


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