Re: Generating excitement in GNOME

2007-06-25 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hei,

2007/6/2, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>
> > > Having mused upon it for a while since the proposal, I tend to think a
> > > whole release module will be a lot of work for relatively little gain. A
> > > regularly released document showing off stuff "coming down the pipe"
> > > (tube even) would be less work, greater gain (sexy document vs tarball),
> > > doable by someone who is less likely to be a code contributor, and
> > > likely to have a wider possible scope (more experimental stuff, with
> > > code but perhaps no releases).
> >
> > Do you mean a set of cool GNOME Journal articles? ;-)
>
> Maybe, but not really -- something akin to the 'coming soon' page in our old
> release notes.

The problem is that those things have already "come" (they're
perfectly usable right now) and we can't give any garantee that they
will be part of our official releases. Therefore, I don't think we
should add this kind of thing to our release notes.

I still think GNOME Journal is a good/better place to advertise those
new/cool stuff. We just need the writers. :-)

Just my 3 cents,

--lucasr
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Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Benoît Dejean
Le dimanche 24 juin 2007 à 18:54 +0300, Lucas Rocha a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been checking our latest development releases (2.19.x) and
> noticed that some modules haven't had any releases so far in this
> development cycle. Here's a list of some of those modules:
> 
> - bug-buddy
> - gedit
> - gnome-applets

I've always been around multiload_applet2. gnome-applets is a collection
of applets and there are already sub-maintainer. I'd like to
commit/work/etc on multiload but my patches are stalled on bugzilla. I
don't want to be the maintainer of gnome-applets but i can surely handle
multiload. Hey "chief" (davyd), would you promote me ?

>   to do to gnome-love list

I don't think gnome-love works, there are many bugs marked HELPWANTED or
assigned to gnome-love, i've never seen any being solved by someone
coming out of the blue.
-- 
Benoît Dejean
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Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi Benoît,

2007/6/25, Benoît Dejean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Le dimanche 24 juin 2007 à 18:54 +0300, Lucas Rocha a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been checking our latest development releases (2.19.x) and
> > noticed that some modules haven't had any releases so far in this
> > development cycle. Here's a list of some of those modules:
> >
> > - bug-buddy
> > - gedit
> > - gnome-applets
>
> I've always been around multiload_applet2. gnome-applets is a collection
> of applets and there are already sub-maintainer. I'd like to
> commit/work/etc on multiload but my patches are stalled on bugzilla. I
> don't want to be the maintainer of gnome-applets but i can surely handle
> multiload. Hey "chief" (davyd), would you promote me ?
>
> >   to do to gnome-love list
>
> I don't think gnome-love works, there are many bugs marked HELPWANTED or
> assigned to gnome-love, i've never seen any being solved by someone
> coming out of the blue.

You're wrong. Do you really think new contributors can easily find and
work on those bugs on their own? What we need is to have the good&old
love days back. Then those bugs marked with "gnome-love" keyword would
be really useful.

--lucasr
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Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/25/07, Benoît Dejean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think gnome-love works, there are many bugs marked HELPWANTED or
> assigned to gnome-love, i've never seen any being solved by someone
> coming out of the blue.

I have.  Don't know why the difference exists between our experiences,
but I can say that the gnome-love keyword has snagged contributions.
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Re: Module maintenance: problems and oportunities

2007-06-25 Thread Elijah Newren
On 6/25/07, Lucas Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2007/6/25, Benoît Dejean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > I've always been around multiload_applet2. gnome-applets is a collection
> > of applets and there are already sub-maintainer. I'd like to
> > commit/work/etc on multiload but my patches are stalled on bugzilla. I
> > don't want to be the maintainer of gnome-applets but i can surely handle
> > multiload. Hey "chief" (davyd), would you promote me ?
> >
> > >   to do to gnome-love list
> >
> > I don't think gnome-love works, there are many bugs marked HELPWANTED or
> > assigned to gnome-love, i've never seen any being solved by someone
> > coming out of the blue.
>
> You're wrong.

How could he possibly be wrong?  He didn't say that gnome-love didn't
work or that no gnome-love bugs had been solved by new contributors,
he said that he *thought* gnome-love didn't work and that he hasn't
personally seen gnome-love bugs being solved by some new contributor.
;-)

Anyway, all that aside, I have seen it work and I really love your
efforts to make things work even better Lucas.

Cheers,
Elijah
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