Re: Features !

2011-10-08 Thread Florian Müllner
On sáb, 2011-10-08 at 11:48 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> GNOME's implementation is very young; I have a hard time finding apps
> on my computer using this feature even in GNOME 3.2;

There are no jumplists in GNOME 3.2, which explains your troubles
finding apps making use of this feature ;-)


Florian

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Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:49 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
> If you examine the GOA project and its git log,

You can rest assured that I haven't read the git log, I did look at the
last release though :-)

> combined with the idea of supporting generic IMAP/SMTP/XMPP/Caldav
> configurations, see
> 
>  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=661117
> 
> that Patryk filed on my request... then... then GOA can be pretty nice
> from a corporate point of view. Because with that the you'd just drop
> a single config file in /etc/goa-1/config.d/mail.conf specifying the
> $u...@company.com for email, something else for XMPP and so on.

So to be clear, you see GOA's configurability to be in setting up new
account groups, but new protocols.  So I could add "Corp. Account" but
if my corp. uses a protocol that GNOME OS doesn't use otherwise, I
couldn't add this.  Trying to understand what configurability you expect
in the future.

--Ted



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Re: GNOME Online Accounts extensibility

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:21 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> And we don't want to add switches for services that are not covered by
> GNOME apps.

Could you elaborate on the term "GNOME apps" in this context please?
For instance, if Inkscape wanted to have account settings for the
recently published Deviant Art APIs would that be allowed?  Or is it
encouraged that when Inkscape runs on GNOME OS it should provide it's
own account setup dialog for those APIs?

--Ted



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Re: Features !

2011-10-08 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 6 October 2011 08:13, Seif Lotfy  wrote:
> The Jump-list stuff has been on my list for a while:
> What we are facing here is:
>     Adding actions to the appmenus: new tab (browser), new note (for tomboy
> or gnote) or pause (for the media players)
>     Adding document shortcuts in the appmenus: 4 most recent documents and
> other most used (in the last x days) documents with gedit

Personally, I think it would be a good idea if the GNOME jumplists and
the Unity jumplists shared the same implementation so that app
developers could have the extra functionality for both platforms and
only have to do the work once. There may be some design issues and
this is probably equally a request to the Ubuntu developers (several
of whom do read this list) as it is the GNOME ones, but I think
crossplatform interoperability is a good thing to aim for.

GNOME's implementation is very young; I have a hard time finding apps
on my computer using this feature even in GNOME 3.2; Unity has more
apps using jumplists.

Jeremy Bicha
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Re: Features !

2011-10-08 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi Mathias,

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Matthias Clasen
 wrote:
> Hey,
>
> so according to the draft schedule that Andre posted a while ago, we
> are in the middle of the 'feature proposal' period right now. I
> haven't seen much feature discussion here at all yet, and so far, the
> wiki only lists things that I have put there, which is a little scary
> - I can't be the only one itching to get cool things into GNOME 3.4.
>
> Where are your ideas ? It would be great to get them onto that wiki
> page, in particular since next weekend a bunch of us will get together
> in Montreal to, among other things, spend time to talk about 3.4
> features.

  Was wondering if we could take-up this forgotten feature planned for
3.1: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/Sharing

  AFAIK, the issue was that designers were way too busy with more
important features in 3.1 so they didn't get any time for this one.
Lapo has started to investigate this it seems and last I asked
Bastien, he was also interested(?) in getting this done in 3.3 cycle.

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124
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Re: Dynamic help menus for 3.2

2011-10-08 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 18:22 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 15:01 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> > Don't know if you have considered this but in OSX some applications
> > have a search entry in its Help menu, this entry searches among all
> > the menu items and also Help topics. It's really useful for
> > applications with *huge* menus like FinalCut.
> > It's has been a lifesaver the few times I've been unable to remember
> > where a menu item was or what was the exact name of one.
> > 
> > Might not be next best thing as-is, but perhaps it serves as
> > inspiration for something else.
> 
> That actually works as well in my prototypes, but it might not
> be in good enough shape for 3.4. The interaction with a text
> entry in a menu is really hard in GTK+. GtkMenu just wasn't
> designed to do that.

Yeah, it wasn't.  We have an implementation in our IDO library, you're
welcome to use.  If there's interest we can look at how this could move
into GTK+.


http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/ido/trunk/view/head:/src/idoentrymenuitem.c

Hope that helps.

--Ted



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