New desktop help system ?

2011-11-24 Thread Pierre Wieser
Hi,

As I was googling searching why the help is not displayed for 
my application, I have found [1], which states:

The desktop help has moved to the new proposed XDG help system [...]

Though I read both desktop-devel and xdg lists, I do not remember
anything recent on the subject, and Google has not been my friend
in this matter.

Could someone give me some pointers, please ? What is this help system ?
Where is the XDG spec ? and so on...:)

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Pierre

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658085
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Re: New desktop help system ?

2011-11-24 Thread Shaun McCance
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 11:48 +0100, Pierre Wieser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As I was googling searching why the help is not displayed for 
 my application, I have found [1], which states:
 
 The desktop help has moved to the new proposed XDG help system [...]
 
 Though I read both desktop-devel and xdg lists, I do not remember
 anything recent on the subject, and Google has not been my friend
 in this matter.
 
 Could someone give me some pointers, please ? What is this help system ?
 Where is the XDG spec ? and so on...:)

The spec can be found in the xdg-specs repository:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/tree/help-system

I don't think it was ever published as HTML on freedesktkop.org,
unfortunately. And it remains unimplemented by KDE, even though
the spec was ironed out between me and a KDE developer during a
cross-desktop help summit.

However, the old help system continues to work in Yelp, and will
continue to work for the foreseeable future. So this isn't the
reason your help isn't displayed.

--
Shaun


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Re: New desktop help system ?

2011-11-24 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 24 novembre 2011, à 10:23 -0500, Shaun McCance a écrit :
 On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 11:48 +0100, Pierre Wieser wrote:
  Hi,
  
  As I was googling searching why the help is not displayed for 
  my application, I have found [1], which states:
  
  The desktop help has moved to the new proposed XDG help system [...]
  
  Though I read both desktop-devel and xdg lists, I do not remember
  anything recent on the subject, and Google has not been my friend
  in this matter.
  
  Could someone give me some pointers, please ? What is this help system ?
  Where is the XDG spec ? and so on...:)
 
 The spec can be found in the xdg-specs repository:
 
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/tree/help-system
 
 I don't think it was ever published as HTML on freedesktkop.org,
 unfortunately.

Want me to do it? If yes, what version should I use?

Vincent

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projects.gnome.org versus live.gnome.org

2011-11-24 Thread Joanmarie Diggs


Hey guys.

Periodically I wonder about projects.gnome.org versus live.gnome.org: 
Some modules and groups use one, some use the other, others use both. As 
I'm currently in the process of cleaning up the Orca wiki (and recently 
did the same for the Accessibility Team wiki), I figured I'd wonder 
aloud this time: Are there any plans, expectations, etc. regarding one 
versus the other?


Thanks and take care.
--joanie
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Re: projects.gnome.org versus live.gnome.org

2011-11-24 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

As one of those projects that use both:

* live.gnome.org is a wiki, it is for storing information about the
development process and information that needs to be updated often. It
has limited design capabilities so many project don't want to use it for
(end-user) presentation.

* projects.gnome.org is a mess...no seriously it would be much better to
have some kind of CMS instead of trying to deliver html files with
automake rules. But still, it allows you to use full html/css
capabilities for a website.

Regards,
Johannes


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