Re: steam games

2013-02-16 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:18:55AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
 I think that it'd be more interesting to engage with Valve to know how
 the GNOME platform could help steam get a better product. It is an
 interesting ISV usecase.

  But GNOME platform is not Steam's target.  Valve is targeting Unity,
but virtue of making Ubuntu primary platform. GNOME is a niche for them.

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Re: steam games

2013-02-16 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 11:12 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:18:55AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
  I think that it'd be more interesting to engage with Valve to know how
  the GNOME platform could help steam get a better product. It is an
  interesting ISV usecase.
 
   But GNOME platform is not Steam's target.  Valve is targeting Unity,
 but virtue of making Ubuntu primary platform. GNOME is a niche for them.
 

1. I haven't contacted Valve directly it looks like they are playing
nice with other distros, which are not using Unity. For example they
change the license to make it distributable, remove apt-get dependency
autoinstall, post non-dpkg installer, give people who explicitly stated
they are not using Ubuntu early beta access etc. I haven't experienced
any problems with Valve games on Gentoo (I've experienced a few problems
with non-Valve games though and I needed to use Google).
2. To at least some extend Unity is based on GNOME (not WM and few other
pieces).

I don't think that should be argument against trying - in the worse case
we simply won't receive reply.

Best regards

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Re: steam games

2013-02-16 Thread Juanjo Marín




- Mensaje original -
 De: Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com
 Para: Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl
 CC: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
 Enviado: Sábado 16 de febrero de 2013 11:33
 Asunto: Re: steam games
 
 On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 11:12 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:18:55AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
   I think that it'd be more interesting to engage with Valve to know 
 how
   the GNOME platform could help steam get a better product. It is an
   interesting ISV usecase.
 
    But GNOME platform is not Steam's target.  Valve is targeting Unity,
  but virtue of making Ubuntu primary platform. GNOME is a niche for them.
 
 
 1. I haven't contacted Valve directly it looks like they are playing
 nice with other distros, which are not using Unity. For example they
 change the license to make it distributable, remove apt-get dependency
 autoinstall, post non-dpkg installer, give people who explicitly stated
 they are not using Ubuntu early beta access etc. I haven't experienced
 any problems with Valve games on Gentoo (I've experienced a few problems
 with non-Valve games though and I needed to use Google).
 2. To at least some extend Unity is based on GNOME (not WM and few other
 pieces).
 


If Valve games doesn't work with GNOME, gamers will switch to another 
environment. Valve is a big player in the game industry and it is 
expected new games will be released for Valve for Linux, so I think it is a 
good idea that Valve games (or games in general) can run in GNOME if possible.

There are some predictions that say the GNU/Linux will be an important gaming 
platform.

Just my two cents,

   -- Juanjo Marin
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GNOME Calendar app and tasks

2013-02-16 Thread pec...@gmail.com
Hi!

Just curious - is there a plan to integrate tasks in future Calendar app?
https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Calendar

Respectfully,
Peteris Krisjanis.
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Re: steam games

2013-02-16 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:18:55AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
  I think that it'd be more interesting to engage with Valve to know how
  the GNOME platform could help steam get a better product. It is an
  interesting ISV usecase.

   But GNOME platform is not Steam's target.  Valve is targeting Unity,
 but virtue of making Ubuntu primary platform. GNOME is a niche for them.


They'll let anybody use Steam.  But they are QA'ing on Ubuntu.  Ubuntu of
course is the 800 lb gorilla when it comes to distributions.  So it makes
sense that they would adopt the most popular distro with the largest user
base.

What I'm interested in is to make sure that we are tracking any performance
or bad behaviour issues with steam games and are sensitive to it.

It doesn't take a genius to know that games is the holy grail of any
platform and we should be able to attract a lot more people to the platform
because of it.  However, they'll switch to something else if the experience
is less than stellar in this age of rapid communications via social
networks.

What I don't want to see is some article on top 5 list of distros and GNOME
based distros are panned because the performance sucks on Steam.

I'm still working on getting a contact within Steam to be able to have a
method of testing games.


sri


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