Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 01:14:47PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote:
> Since when did you become a "Dr" without having an actual doctorate-
> honorary ones don't mean shit?

Since when is such behaviour socially acceptable? Anyway, you're banned
from both lists, bye.

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Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Allan Day
Super Bisquit  wrote:
> Since when did you become a "Dr" without having an actual doctorate-
> honorary ones don't mean shit?

Derogatory personal comments have no place on this list. Please
refrain from making posts like this again. Our moderators have been
notified about this, and will act if you send mails like this again.

Let's keep it civil; we're all on the same side here.

Allan
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Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.

Since when did you become a "Dr" without having an actual doctorate-
honorary ones don't mean shit?

A doctorate honoris causa is a real doctorate.  To get them required
many years of hard work on the GNU system, which you as a GNOME
developer also contribute to.

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Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.

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Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-18 Thread Super Bisquit
Since when did you become a "Dr" without having an actual doctorate-
honorary ones don't mean shit?




On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Richard Stallman  wrote:

> [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
> [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
> [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.
>
> Its sad that there is a huge number out there who think "Free Software"
> means $0 software.
>
> I often say "free/libre" software to help clear this up.
>
> --
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> President, Free Software Foundation
> 51 Franklin St
> Boston MA 02110
> USA
> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
>   Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.
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3.9.90 release next week

2013-08-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
Don't forget: next monday is a release day.

3.9.90 is our  beta release for 3.10. We're beginning our freeze after
this release, so if you have big features to land or branches to
merge, it would be great if that could happen soon. If you need a day
or two extra to make this happen, don't hestitate to talk to the
release team - we're flexible.

As to what features and fixes we're monitoring for 3.10, see

https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointNine/Features
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?cf_gnome_target=3.10


Thanks, Matthias
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Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:20:31PM +0300, fr33domlover wrote:
> Therefore, by turning off mirroring for a module, you don't block
> anything or stop anything - you just avoid pointing to a proprietary
> service, which is legitimate in my opinion.

git.gnome.org is also available on Google. It indexes the entire
website, which has the entire code. It is also available on various
other search engines. I find it rather strange that there is such a
focus on something which will spread the idea of free software.
Gitorious existence doesn't make it automatically viable btw.

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Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 04:50:14PM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote:
> In the end, I might just do so, if everyone turns out to be uninterested
> in the fundamental values of free software. For once, I might start by
> canceling my monthly donations. And with me, others — fewer than you
> would gain by aggressive marketing, sure, but still. I always advocate
> for GNOME. I'd hate starting to advocate against it.

Such threats are really not appropriate (aside from questionable form of
communication, I have received loads of threats over the years).

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Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

2013-08-18 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:00:38AM +0200, Matteo Settenvini wrote:
> If there's interest, we could draft a paragraph or two, so that a bit of
> uniformity in communicating our ideals takes the form of a wider
> protest.

I recommend not doing this.

The code is published under the GPL. If you don't want it used in ways
that goes against whatever you want, change the license. If you think
free software is really important, advocate that. If you have some pet
peeve against Github, GNOME infrastructure is not meant for advocacy
against something. Promote free software and explain why it is good all
your want. All the other stuff: it is like preaching to the choir plus
pretty double standard to complain about something that
a) makes free software more available to people
b) totally allowed by the license

and I do mean the thought behind the license, not just the legal wording.

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