Re: Geoclue needs your help!

2014-01-24 Thread Mattias Bengtsson
On fre, 2014-01-24 at 20:06 +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider
> installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that
> is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it
> to.

Installing it now. Consider Gothenburg, Sweden covered! ;)

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Re: Geoclue needs your help!

2014-01-24 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Hashem Nasarat  wrote:
> Thanks for your work!

Thanks for appreciation!

> I think you should write a blog post about this to get wider coverage.

I totally intend to. :)


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Re: Geoclue needs your help!

2014-01-24 Thread Hashem Nasarat
Thanks for your work!
I think you should write a blog post about this to get wider coverage.

On 01/24/2014 03:06 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
> Hi all,
>   As some of you might have heard, last week I added a
> wifi-geolocation source to geoclue. I'm working on also adding 3G and
> GPS sources but with GNOME running on mostly laptops, most people wont
> have the needed hardware for these sources. Also is the fact that
> laptops are usually used indoor and I'm not yet sure when we will have
> GPSA support. Keeping all this in mind and that our geiop source
> typically gives us city-level accuracy, this wifi-geolocation source
> is the most important one.
> 
> The source makes use of the new Mozilla Location Service[1] and that
> being very new, does not have a lot of coverage. The good news is that
> they provide a web API and an android application to allow people to
> help them extend their coverage: Mozstumblr. I talked to our designers
> briefly about having a similar service/app in GNOME to be able to
> contribute data from GNOME itself as well but lack of GPS hardware
> makes it rather not that useful in the end.
> 
> So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider
> installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that
> is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it
> to.
> 
> Have a nice weekend!
> 
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Geoclue needs your help!

2014-01-24 Thread Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
Hi all,
  As some of you might have heard, last week I added a
wifi-geolocation source to geoclue. I'm working on also adding 3G and
GPS sources but with GNOME running on mostly laptops, most people wont
have the needed hardware for these sources. Also is the fact that
laptops are usually used indoor and I'm not yet sure when we will have
GPSA support. Keeping all this in mind and that our geiop source
typically gives us city-level accuracy, this wifi-geolocation source
is the most important one.

The source makes use of the new Mozilla Location Service[1] and that
being very new, does not have a lot of coverage. The good news is that
they provide a web API and an android application to allow people to
help them extend their coverage: Mozstumblr. I talked to our designers
briefly about having a similar service/app in GNOME to be able to
contribute data from GNOME itself as well but lack of GPS hardware
makes it rather not that useful in the end.

So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider
installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that
is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it
to.

Have a nice weekend!

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124

[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Location/About
[2] 
https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Location/About#How_can_I_get_involved.3F
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Re: Hooking up gnome-session with dbus/kdbus/systemd

2014-01-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 22.01.14 21:31, Matthias Clasen (matthias.cla...@gmail.com) wrote:

> The only thing I've seen in this discussion that I disagree with is the
> idea to make the distinction between starting a service (in the background)
> and launching the application (opening a window) implicit, by looking at
> somewhat obscure environment variables. That should be rather be explicit,
> I think, and we want to limit the extent to which applications are allowed
> to do that (run in the background).

Yeah, I agree with this. As discussed with Ryan and others on IRC yesterday:

I think the way forward here is to introduce a seperate ExecService= (or
maybe ExecBusService= or so) field here, and for .desktop files without
DBusActivatabe= set prorgams should just contiue forking off the
binaries directly.

Lennart

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