Re: 3.14 Release Notes
This is a reminder that I'm still looking for details for the release notes. I need more than just a bullet for each feature - some description is essential. Notable absences from the release notes: * No details on gestures - which gestures are supported by which apps? Do they work automatically in other apps? etc. * Not much on the shell. I know we're not expecting big changes here, but there could be groups of bugs that are worth mentioning. I'm especially interested in multimonitor improvements. * Videos, Boxes, Web and Documents are missing. * Photos and Music seems pretty empty. Thanks, Allan On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! The 3.14 release is approaching fast, and UI freeze is almost upon us. Now is a good time to start thinking about the Release Notes. Please add any features you have worked on over this cycle to the wiki page: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/ReleaseNotes They can be big or small improvements - it doesn't matter. Thanks, Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted
Hi everyone, first, thanks to the designers for putting so much good work into the HIG! Some feedback from me: Typography One thing that is missing IMO in the font size discussion is the uglieness of absolute font sizes. In the Universal Access menu you have the Large Text option: if you use absolute font sizes these wont scale to that making this an accessibility issue. So using something like font-size: 80% should be recommended IMO. In addition, to keep the font-size diversity small I'd for now advise to use 80% for small texts and some other value for large texts. There are two advantages about this and the 80% is not accidentally: - The adwaita theme uses 80% for some small texts so we should stick for this value for consistency. - Having a large text value makes applications more consistent to each other anyway. On long term it would be nice if the theme would provide some css classes small-text, large-text. Then we could recommend using those instead of having our application developers dealing with those issues which should IMO be solved by the theme. Visual Layour - Margins -- I'd like to avoid numbers on long term here. Spacing could be done by the theme by providing spacing related classes IMO. Hardcoded Colors - Note that I didnt read the whole thing yet, but: I didnt find anything like dont use hardcoded colors they are evil and screw up your design if someone uses e.g. the accessibility theme. And I searched. So IMO it is either too well hidden or it should come in. Accessibility -- Although blind users are probably not the main target group I think GNOME is proud to provide one of the most accessible linux desktops. I think it would be nice to have an accessibility page somewhere. Some advise how to make the application accessible to everyone without throwing away the mouse screen one day, because noone really does the latter. More may follow later. Lasse 2014-08-26 10:50 GMT+02:00 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: ... I'm about halfway done reading. I have a few suggestions, all minor: * The Visual Layout page discusses how many pixels to use as margins. This is easy for developers to use, but it caused some confusion on LWN given that on hidpi displays twice as many pixels will be used. Maybe this should be clarified. I'm a bit reluctant to do that. The guidelines don't generally comment on technical details. * On the Dialogs page: In particular, it is currently not recommended to make the Close button the default in an instant apply window, as this can lead to users closing the window accidentally before they have finished using it. I think you can remove the word currently, unless you're planning to change your mind. :) Fixed. * Regarding the keybindings page: Ctrl+Alt+Delete is power off, not log off, and it is not disabled default, although it shows up in g-c-c as log off. [1] Fixed. * Throughout the HIG, you're mostly consistent in using ' and instead of the ' and characters that are mandated by the Typography page. Some search and replace might be appropriate here, to set a good example. :) Indeed! Fixed. * On the index page: If you have never read the Human Interface Guidelines before, it is recommended that you start with the essentials section, in particular the design principles page, before continuing to learn about the design patterns. But this text is in the description for the Interface elements section, not the Patterns section. Missing markup to break the paragraph - fixed. Excellent catches, Michael. Thanks so much. Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Lasse Schuirmann lasse.schuirm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, first, thanks to the designers for putting so much good work into the HIG! Some feedback from me: Typography One thing that is missing IMO in the font size discussion is the uglieness of absolute font sizes. In the Universal Access menu you have the Large Text option: if you use absolute font sizes these wont scale to that making this an accessibility issue. So using something like font-size: 80% should be recommended IMO. In addition, to keep the font-size diversity small I'd for now advise to use 80% for small texts and some other value for large texts. There are two advantages about this and the 80% is not accidentally: - The adwaita theme uses 80% for some small texts so we should stick for this value for consistency. - Having a large text value makes applications more consistent to each other anyway. On long term it would be nice if the theme would provide some css classes small-text, large-text. Then we could recommend using those instead of having our application developers dealing with those issues which should IMO be solved by the theme. There's no need to clamor for css here - Pango has always provided markup and attributes to do relative font sizes, like this: normal span font_size=largerbig/span span font_size=smallersmall/span ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted
Am 28.08.2014 00:55 schrieb Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Lasse Schuirmann lasse.schuirm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, first, thanks to the designers for putting so much good work into the HIG! Some feedback from me: Typography One thing that is missing IMO in the font size discussion is the uglieness of absolute font sizes. In the Universal Access menu you have the Large Text option: if you use absolute font sizes these wont scale to that making this an accessibility issue. So using something like font-size: 80% should be recommended IMO. In addition, to keep the font-size diversity small I'd for now advise to use 80% for small texts and some other value for large texts. There are two advantages about this and the 80% is not accidentally: - The adwaita theme uses 80% for some small texts so we should stick for this value for consistency. - Having a large text value makes applications more consistent to each other anyway. On long term it would be nice if the theme would provide some css classes small-text, large-text. Then we could recommend using those instead of having our application developers dealing with those issues which should IMO be solved by the theme. There's no need to clamor for css here - Pango has always provided markup and attributes to do relative font sizes, like this: normal span font_size=largerbig/span span font_size=smallersmall/span That's interesting. The theme uses percentages. I'd assume it allows the designers to more accurately tweak the thing. I'd try to use what the theme provides for consistency. In any case I'd like to recommend a way for devs to scale text relatively. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
